VV REOS Part VII

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FeistyAlice

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I am going to do a tiny bit of sanding on DH's Curly Oak this a.m. Tiny bit. It has had time to readjust to air conditioned house and is still too tight for his hands. I won't be taking it to lake tonight as DH is carrying a Black Grand (I'll be picking him up at airport and then directly to the lake.) so I want to take matching Black Grand and Mini. (We've been subjecting most Wood REOs to hours of accompanying us in the spa, over time, except for the VVWs of course, but the VV Curly Oak has been the most affected of all by the extreme humidity. We have five Curly Oaks. As it was the last one we've gotten maybe the board had extra time to further dry out in storage at REO.) Of all the Woodvils we have DH's Curly Oak is the least likely to spend much time outside as DH can't handle much heat or cold so, under usual circumstance, there shouldn't be many wide humidity swings. Outside humidity is now 69% and dropping; inside ~40 as it was cool enough yesterday and last night that AC didn't run a whole lot.

Hugs, Feisty Alice

Yes, Feisty Alice has been known to talk to herself.:ohmy: Just wanted to report, if I haven't already, that I took a slight amount off of door doing it very carefully with very fine grit sandpaper, placed on totally flat surface, doing two light swipes on each side (door edge surface must be in full contact with sandpaper and swipes very light), dust off, try out..... It is now perfect and DH has no issues with his crickety hands sliding door open. I did the final over a week ago. It has been inside our air conditioned house, several days road travel to DH's work, in air conditioned car, at work, of course, two visits to the lake, dining outside for three hours each visit, two airplane rides, out of town, in rental car, work place, hotel, in 100+F, on Texas/Mexico border and an hour from the Gulf of Mexico (some humidity but mostly very hot and then very cool in car and buildings) AND....................... the door has been PERFECT!!!!

I did use Howard's Sun Shield, and then a waxing of the whole VVW outside and door all sides after the sanding. (Inside had already been done with Howard's Sun Shield or Feed and Wax) I used, for the first time, the Howard's Hard Paste Wax. It is very hard wax and made the door groove and door edges very slick. The Howard's Hard Paste Wax is the hardest wood wax I've ever used and I've been using hand rubbed hard waxes on various wood items for decades. It is so much harder because the Howard's Paste Wax contains less solvents than any other Paste Waxes I've ever used. Solvents are needed for Carnauba Wax as it is too hard to use without some solvents.

And a MAJOR BTW...... Those of us who use Paste Waxes on our REOs..... we usually leave a good amount of the wax on the REO (or other woods) and let it sit for a while before buffing. The Howard's Paste Wax is so hard that it takes a good amount of elbow grease to get the excess off unlike most other Paste Waxes I've used.

Also........ I've only used the Howard's clear Paste Wax on the Curly Oak. Due to the nature of the Curly Oak there are indentions in the surface that are characteristic of the Curly Oak. I was unable to get all of the excess wax out of the grain "grooves" using the very light weight, fine textured flannel I use for final polishing and buffing of waxed woods. Clear Wood Paste Wax has a natural color that is similar in color to natural bees wax, an ivory with yellow tone. For the light in color Curly Oak the remaining wax, in the grooves, is okay, but it would not be acceptable for darker woods that have "grooves" as the light colored wax would be such a contrast to the darker wood color.

Of all the Wood Paste Waxes I've used the Howard's is my favorite for a hard wax coating, harder than any others I've used and providing even greater protection to the surface of the wood and/or finish coat from scratches, bumps, scrapes, dings, etc., in the finish coating and the wood, than and other WOOD Paste Wax I've ever used. (I've used Paste Waxes on bare wood antique furniture that had to be stripped due to the condition of old finish or paint. I like to keep the original finish on antiques but sometimes it is in a condition that it has to be removed.)

Therefore I'm ordering some more Howard's Paste Wax in a slightly darker color and another in an even darker color for our darker colored WOOD REOs (and furniture) that have wood grain that does have "grooves." Some do and some don't. I will use the clear on those woods that have very closed and/or fine graining.

Hugs and all that, Feisty Alice
 
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an update on the sensetivety for humidity talk we had earlier: looks like it's getting less sensetive, had 70% this weekend and it is still 62% and the door is still sliding very smoothly, looks like time seem to solve it :D

On the last day of Bonnaroo this year, it rained like cats and dogs...my VV Woodvil's door became very hard to push up...almost impossible. I also noticed the leather steering wheel cover I had put on my Volvo 8 years ago when I bought the car (and which was disintegrating) finally had clumps of leather falling out of it when I did a one hand turn with the palm of my hand. When I got home I ordered a new wheel skin steering wheel cover and put it on just the other day. My VV Woodvil on the other hand, probably because of my forceful sliding of the door while there was so much humidity has become very easy to move and is pretty much perfect now. I'm sure it will tighten up if it become very humid again, but I wouldn't want it any looser than it is now during the dry weather. I too was tempted to use some sand paper on mine but am glad I haven't.
 

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On the last day of Bonnaroo this year, it rained like cats and dogs...my VV Woodvil's door became very hard to push up...almost impossible. I also noticed the leather steering wheel cover I had put on my Volvo 8 years ago when I bought the car (and which was disintegrating) finally had clumps of leather falling out of it when I did a one hand turn with the palm of my hand. When I got home I ordered a new wheel skin steering wheel cover and put it on just the other day. My VV Woodvil on the other hand, probably because of my forceful sliding of the door while there was so much humidity has become very easy to move and is pretty much perfect now. I'm sure it will tighten up if it become very humid again, but I wouldn't want it any looser than it is now during the dry weather. I too was tempted to use some sand paper on mine but am glad I haven't.

Well..... I haven't forgotten how your brand new Black Palm swelled up when you took it on vacation, to the coast, when you first got it. That was a first for me. Your experience taught me to get my Black Palm waxed as soon as it arrived here from Maine. In addition, the recent Curly Oak VVW swelling during our several days of 100% humidty, inside and outside, (AC went out during hot rainy weather; several days) has taught me another lesson..... That is next time we have 150% humidity:D the Woodvils get a vacation and out come the Metals. For those who don't know..... VVW Curly Oak is our fifth Curly Oak and one of the older ones has spent many hours in the spa with me and "swimming" in the spa so it was certainly a surprise when the new VVW door got so stuck. So you really never know what the woods will do; even the same kind.

While new VVW Curly Oak was being a brat Bloodwood/Spalted and all Spalted were well behaved. I did do a tiny bit of sanding after those two stabilized here for a week or more. Then I Howard's them and put a coat of hard paste wax on them after sanding. Most of the time they were stabilizing they were sitting in a container of newly ground coffee.

Hugs, Feisty Alice
 

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On the last day of Bonnaroo this year, it rained like cats and dogs...my VV Woodvil's door became very hard to push up...almost impossible. I also noticed the leather steering wheel cover I had put on my Volvo 8 years ago when I bought the car (and which was disintegrating) finally had clumps of leather falling out of it when I did a one hand turn with the palm of my hand. When I got home I ordered a new wheel skin steering wheel cover and put it on just the other day. My VV Woodvil on the other hand, probably because of my forceful sliding of the door while there was so much humidity has become very easy to move and is pretty much perfect now. I'm sure it will tighten up if it become very humid again, but I wouldn't want it any looser than it is now during the dry weather. I too was tempted to use some sand paper on mine but am glad I haven't.
Coco's the was pretty tight to start with

does anyone know if the VV REOs are going on sale tomorrow as noted on the website? If so, is there a specific time that they go live? thanks for any info!
no they are not Rob is waiting for the VV chips I believe he said it was gonna be a week or 2:unsure:
 

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pmoraldo - you are a peach! thank you so much for the info! man, that gives me an extra paycheck to put towards the reo VV--but all the money in the world may be for naught--i was around for the server madness of the VV woodvils...i'll keep my fingers crossed, follow this thread and hope that my 'refresh' is button is more determined than the next persons, haha!
 

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So the wax keeps them from swelling?
I might have to try that...I have never waxed any of my wood (sort of speak..lol)...

dunno, did wax the inside of the body and the door, also the sides of the door, with howards feed & wax twice after they arrived. the walnut/walnut did react just a tiny bit on 70% humidity, the zebra/wenge was almost stuck at first, but now it barely react anymore. it doesn't get much higher in the house and now that we have our grands they don't leave the house anymore.
 

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So the wax keeps them from swelling?
I might have to try that...I have never waxed any of my wood (sort of speak..lol)...

Basically yes. Depending on the wax, it fills in the pores and doesn't allow much, if any, moisture to be absorbed by the wood. One thing to note, though, is that with certain woods, open pored, it can, but not always, make the wood swell a teen-nitsey bit first time it's used especially if the wood is pretty dry to start and/or a wood with little natural oil. The relatively runny Howard's, as compared to Paste Wax, has some orange oil in it that is absorbed into pores which is a good thing as it keeps the wood from drying out over time. I haven't had much swelling of wood doing lengthy soaks of Howard's on all the Woodvils, their bare wood, various types of woods, door groves and bare door edges. On only a very few have I noted the door getting tighter after soaking it well with Howard's. And I'm talking a bunch of Wood REOs that have been treated with Howard's.

Our juices contain a lot of H2O. Using the Howard's on bare wood inside will help to keep the juices from not only absorbing into the wood but it also helps to keep down the staining from juices.

Someone mentioned that a new red colored Woodvil had darkened considerably in a short period of time. It think person said it had become pretty brown. That's awfully fast. I forget now which wood it is but some are much more sensitive than others to UV changing the colors. Red colored woods tend to go brown. We are all familiar with Cedar, Redwood, Pine, and other woods turning grey when weathered. It is mostly UV exposure that does that. The Howard's Sun Shield will help to slow down darkening and/or loss of red tones caused by UV exposure.

I have some Scandinavian Fir shelving from The Container Store. It started out a light straw color and is now golden from diffused sunlight coming in the windows for almost 20 years. I like the color but it is much lighter under where books have been for years. UV from indoors lighting has UV, also. It's most evident on clothes that have been hanging in stores for more than a couple of seasons. Many fabrics, the areas that are exposed to florescent lighting, for lengthy periods, will be lightened by the UV. The ones I see the most affected are natural fibers with dark dyes but wool seems to be one of the least affected.

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pmoraldo - you are a peach! thank you so much for the info! man, that gives me an extra paycheck to put towards the reo VV--but all the money in the world may be for naught--i was around for the server madness of the VV woodvils...i'll keep my fingers crossed, follow this thread and hope that my 'refresh' is button is more determined than the next persons, haha!
Thank you for the kind word just trying to help thats what Reonuts I mean Reonauts do :laugh: I think you will come out of sale night just fine with the VVG you want I don't doubt there will be some server issues but stick with it and you shall be victorious :D
also, your VV REO Blaze is really intense! it is absolutely one of the most eye-catching PV oriented avatars i have seen 'round these parts. that mod must be so beautiful in person!

Thank you Patch it is really a gorgeous 1 of a kind Reo :p
 

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What's the whole name for this device?

is it Reo Variable Voltage Woodville? is it Variable Voltage REO Woodville? Is it Reo Woodville Variable Voltage? Is it just Variable Voltage Woodville?

Some owners (occasionally myself included) have abbreviated the name to VVW. That's probably A-OK for this particular section of the forum, but I'm wondering if leaving the "R" out is appropriate while discussing this device in other areas of ECF or even other forums where REO doesn't have an official presence.

So... VVRW? RVVW? RWVV? or stick with VVW?
 

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What's the whole name for this device?

is it Reo Variable Voltage Woodville? is it Variable Voltage REO Woodville? Is it Reo Woodville Variable Voltage? Is it just Variable Voltage Woodville?

Some owners (occasionally myself included) have abbreviated the name to VVW. That's probably A-OK for this particular section of the forum, but I'm wondering if leaving the "R" out is appropriate while discussing this device in other areas of ECF or even other forums where REO doesn't have an official presence.

So... VVRW? RVVW? RWVV? or stick with VVW?

At the REO site it is called the Variable Voltage Woodvil.

Others are:
REO Grand
REO Mini
REO Woodvil
REO 18490
Woodvil 18490
VV REO Grand

The Mini Woodvil is no longer on site.
 
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