Waiting for the experience

[e-girl]

Hi All,

I became aware of the e-cigs just a couple of days ago, and I was excited to see something that looks promising as a healthier alternative.

Today I went to pick up cigarettes at the store. Currently I am visiting in NY State and the taxes hiked the price up over a dollar for my brand to almost 7 dollars a pack. I immediately came home and put in an order for the njoy. With a money back trial I feel I have nothing to lose if I am not happy, and a lot to save if this works for me. Between cigarettes and gas

I want to thank you all for sharing your experiences and information.

I typically use ultra-lights, so I did order the lights.

My other half works for the TSA, and he is curious as well.

I work a lot on the computer (from home) and I can not smoke inside or around the equipment - so this might extend my time sitting in one place, which would be a good thing.

I'll be back to report in

 

[Oliver]

Hey e-girl,

Great that you are giving it a go. I hope you and your partner find it works well for you - make sure you report back won't you!

Take care,

SJ

 

[windblown]

Hi e-girl, and welcome to the forum!

There are a lot of very helpful people here who are always willing to answer questions and give encouragement. Congratulations on the start of your new adventure! Let us know how it goes.

 

[e-girl]

Thank you for the warm welcomes! My other half's only vice is smoking - and he's a heavy smoker. I really hope this is something that can help him.

I'm actually looking at vintage cigarette cases on ebay right now. Wondering what the device will fit in. I'm not sure of the thickness/length when the unit is taken apart.

Some of the vintage cases seem to be top loaders. Does anyone have a case or do you just chuck it in your pocket?
Depending on how things go - I think special cases for these could be a nice touch.

 

[UncleMidriff]

I wouldn't go ordering cases just yet. See how you like it first.

To be honest, at first, I was fairly disappointed. The smoke tasted funny to me, and I didn't get the initial, intense nic hit I was looking for. I've had my njoy for exactly a week now though, and it is seriously growing on me. I actually enjoy the taste of the smoke now, and the more gradual nicotine calm I get from smoking it is just fine too.

I'm not trying to be a downer or anything; I really think e-smoking is a great thing. I just wouldn't want your expectations to be so far off that you end up ditching the whole thing prematurely.

 

[e-girl]

Thanks UM,

I was careful to go over this forum, and realize it may be a bit different. For me, I like the feel of something in my hand, and the physical aspects of smoking - not just the nicotine.

I'm a bit crafty, and will admit I'll light a cigarette - put it down - and forget about it and next thing I know it is nearly burned out. Other times if I'm relaxing in the evening with a cocktail I'll smoke a bit more.

I think this will be something I can do - but I think it won't be so easy for him. I'm banking on something happening here. Whenever he runs out of cigarettes he goes for mine. He's a marlboro man. He takes the filter off of my deluxe ultra light 100's (and mine cost more). If I don't have any, he may be more inclined to try what ever I have around. It is a sneaky ploy :twisted:

 

[Meltrex]

If I don't have any, he may be more inclined to try what ever I have around. It is a sneaky ploy :twisted:

haha, I do the same with my wife's cigs, except I'm a marlboro light and she's a red. Haven't tried poking in the tiny air holes around the filter to make it a light. Way to much work. At least now I have an alternative and rarely ever have to get into hers.


Please be sure to share with us your experience with E-smoking. Best of Luck!!!

 

[e-girl]

I will probably put my experience on video (reluctantly). If all goes well I'll be looking to exchange video with others and promote.

I noticed a holder in another thread that looked like lucite. Wondering where that came from and if it is for e-cigs.

Oh, and when I mentioned cases I meant something to carry mine in - and again - if all was well and I like this I would design something.

I hate when things are incomplete. I realize the specs would be different for the different devices.

 

[quirky]

I think electronic cigs need a style update too. The same marbled plastics that are used in high end fountain pens would be a nice touch. Although, the black NJoy is nice looking. Just rather plain and understated.

As for actually smoking the thing - the others are right. You do need to give yourself about a week to get used to it.
There is a subtle difference between how one puffs on a cig and how one drags on an e-cig. At first the technique may elude you Once you do get used to it - you wont want to go back. Smoke just feels harsh after the vapor. Hot and dry and tastes terrible.

 

[leaford]

I think electronic cigs need a style update too. The same marbled plastics that are used in high end fountain pens would be a nice touch.

I have one from http://www.smuke.eu that has that kind of marbled look. Pretty as hell, that's for sure. Right now it's a mediocre performer, but I think I just got a bad atomizer, and will try returning it.

The Greencig G300's will also come in a variety of marbled colors, apparently.

I agree that we need to move towards fashion colors, or anything to get away from the cigarette look. Meltrix suggested clear bodies to show off the inner works. Or adding LEDs to that, for a lightsaber look. I've imagined stealth models, built into pen bodies, or laser pointers. Yo Han's made crazy Rubber Ducky Smokers, and Mouse Smokers. I think there's a lot of room to play with and have fun, here. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[e-girl]

I opted for the white with the thought I could possibly dress it up a bit - but I did like the other colors.

For special events, I would treat myself to nat shermans fantasia lights - which have gold filters and come in pink, red, blue, green and yellow - it was just fun. I like them but they are even more expensive - and were too strong for me.

 

[TropicalBob]

Nat Shermans as in little cigars? Oooo. As long as you don't inhale 'em, they're great. I love Drew Estate Kahlua and Dean's 'Lil Cigars ($8.40 per CARTON of 10 packs on the Internet). But I cheated and inhaled. I don't do them now that I'm using the e-cig and e-cigar (I'm thinking of putting a Havana Honey ring wrapper on my e-cigar to give it some class).

 

[Evirgin]

How about a neon green, pink, purple, blue or yellow glow from within a transparent casing - great for raving!

And how about having it on a lanyard to wear around the neck - like some ballpoint pens.

As I alluded to before - I think having an e-cig looking like a real cigarette is counterproductive, particularly if you're trying to get around smoking bans. That might just be how I feel about it - does anyone think that they need a device that looks like a cigarette, or is it OK/better if it doesn't look like a cigarette?

I also wonder if it's strictly necessary to have the "smoke". As I haven't tried one yet (I'll be ordering my first in the next day or so), then I don't know if this is part of the sensory experience, and if it's part of the feeling that mimics smoking. OR could you get that atomised hit of nicotine without the smoke machine smoke? This part actually worries me, because I hate the taste and smell of smoke machines. I'm also not convinced that something like glyco propylene (or whatever it's called) would be that safe to use very regularly, and over a long period of time.

Jane

 

[e-girl]

Nat Shermans as in little cigars? Oooo. As long as you don't inhale 'em, they're great. I love Drew Estate Kahlua and Dean's 'Lil Cigars ($8.40 per CARTON of 10 packs on the Internet). But I cheated and inhaled. I don't do them now that I'm using the e-cig and e-cigar (I'm thinking of putting a Havana Honey ring wrapper on my e-cigar to give it some class).

No, they have cigarettes. They used mint flavor in some as well for a menthol effect. They smoke similar to Indian Spirits.

They have a huge shop in NYC.

evirgin - I'm waiting and hope I get a package on Monday. Can't wait to play!

 

[Mr.Darcy]

evirgin,the "smoke" is VERY important to me,and to most of us,i think.the more vapour the better as far as im concerned.it simulates regular smoking,and delivers the nicotine(by the way it doesnt taste like,smell like,or hang around like cigarette smoke).i like to see and feel like ive inhaled and exhaled something,not just air.apparently some products aimed at the asian market dont give as much vapour,because the chinese prefer discrete e-smoking.although this might be advantageous in certain social situations as things stand,personally i want clouds of vapour.you'll understand when you start e-smoking...i think theres a place for devices to look like cigs and also for them not to-its all about what the individual prefers,there should be choice...as for safety,well its deemed safe now,however long term effects arent known,but its gotta be far better than smoking!my coughs gone and lung capacity has improved since exclusively e-smoking,so i'll take my chances with it over normal cigs any day.

 

[Evirgin]

evirgin,the "smoke" is VERY important to me,and to most of us,i think.the more vapour the better as far as im concerned.it simulates regular smoking,and delivers the nicotine(by the way it doesnt taste like,smell like,or hang around like cigarette smoke).i like to see and feel like ive inhaled and exhaled something,not just air.apparently some products aimed at the asian market dont give as much vapour,because the chinese prefer discrete e-smoking.although this might be advantageous in certain social situations as things stand,personally i want clouds of vapour.you'll understand when you start e-smoking...i think theres a place for devices to look like cigs and also for them not to-its all about what the individual prefers,there should be choice...as for safety,well its deemed safe now,however long term effects arent known,but its gotta be far better than smoking!my coughs gone and lung capacity has improved since exclusively e-smoking,so i'll take my chances with it over normal cigs any day.

Hi Mr D'Arcy,

I'm not talking about "vapour" - I'm talking about "smoke". Yes - give me the vapes man - gimme that big ole nicotine hit!

What I meant, though, was do we really need the glcyol propylene (or whatever it's called) - that probably tastes disgusting and is, intuitively, bad for you.

Vapour, obviously by definition, is water and water soluble substances at or just below boiling point that just e"vapor"ate. My concern is the "smoke" - if it's anything like smoke machine smoke, it'll be horrible. And probably unnecessary. And possibly part of the reason why you can't use these devices in most public spaces.

For example, I can use my nicotine inhalator anywhere I choose - because it doesn't look like smoking and there's no "vapour". However, it doesn't deliver the goods - presumably not enough nicotine and not delivered to the lungs in the appropriate way.

I can't help wondering if the "smoke" is actually a big red herring - but I may be entirely wrong. Do we need smoke along with the atomised nicotine to keep our nicotine levels up, or is it just there for effect. It seems to me that the chinese have tried to develop something which very closely resembles a ..., but which doesn't at all give you the smoke, which is after all why you'd chosse to do things this way.

Jane

 

[leaford]

Jane, perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but you seem to be thinking that the Propylene Glycol produces actual smoke. It does not. It is vaporized liquid too, it just has a smoke like appearance. So, there's no smoke, it's all vapor. We frequently refer to it as smoke. But that's just a matter of verbal habits. It's the same thing with a Smoke Machine; it produces vapor, not smoke.

While it is true that there are no long term studies yet to prove it's safe, there's also no evidence that it wouldn't be. It is a naturally occuring alcohol, which breaks down chemically to Lactic acid, which occurs naturally in the lungs anyway. It has been ingested for decades in other ways like flavors, cosmetics, and medicines, even if never before in this way. And, as far as smoke goes, there are people who work every night in and around PG smoke in theatres, nightclubs, concerts, etc. So, the evidence for its safety is pretty good, actually. The evidence that it's harmful is non existant, AFAIK.

As to the taste, there is none. They have to add artificial flavors to it. The nicotine itself does have a bad taste, which you can sometimes detect as an aftertaste, especially if you're getting liquid in your vapor.

 

[jamie]

Do we need smoke along with the atomised nicotine to keep our nicotine levels up, or is it just there for effect.

My newbie understanding is that we need the 'smoke' to deliver the nicotine to the lungs. The inhalator nicotine isn't delivered to the lungs at all; it's delivered to, and absorbed by, the membranes of the mouth and throat.

 

[quirky]

If we just used nico and water there would still be a vapor - just thinner in appearance. The PG creates the visual effect as it adds body and weight to the vapor. Do we "need it"? No. However, because it helps to simulate real smoke it adds to the experience of smoking. Also, it is probably acting as an emulsifier in this case, helping to ensure that the nic and water stay suspended instead of separating. Its also sweet - I like the sweet.

 

[katink]

And PG also seems to stop the liquid from moulding, or being able to give room to (bad) bacteria-growth, I read somewhere (just don't remember where right now, sorry).