Wall Street Journal Reports on ECA Fight --Continued Use of Deadly Tobacco Encouraged by FDA Position: Electronic Cigarette Debate Heats Up

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That is absurd. We are going to say the the Wall Street Journal's Market Watch is not a reliable news source? That is just abused. This article was picked up by Reuters as well as a host of other outlets. To now nit pic that just because the article is not in the print addition of the Wall Street Journel, that it somehow dillutes its veracity and credibility really speaks volumes of those that attack this article. Sorry, but that argument just does not fly------Sun
 
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IMHO the WSJ article is a great start..although i wouldnt call the WSJ a "junk" publication, i on the other hand wouldnt call them the loudest voice in the U.S. either...again, its a great start but we will need more exposure in the wider more mainstream public eye as well...i totally agree, write or call every news outlet you can think of and try to get them to put the word out..admittedly Fox is about the biggest, so if we could get a story out of them, by one of their "elites" prefferably, it would be of huge benefiet...unless they go and bash us...lol...
 

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IMHO the WSJ article is a great start..although i wouldnt call the WSJ a "junk" publication, i on the other hand wouldnt call them the loudest voice in the U.S. either...again, its a great start but we will need more exposure in the wider more mainstream public eye as well...i totally agree, write or call every news outlet you can think of and try to get them to put the word out..admittedly Fox is about the biggest, so if we could get a story out of them, by one of their "elites" prefferably, it would be of huge benefiet...unless they go and bash us...lol...

I read the Wall Street Journel Marketwatch everyday and they are always ahead of the curve on stories and I have yet to ever find any of their articles off point. To say it is "junk" really is an insult-----Sun
 

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Whatever you're thoughts on this are, this is NOT an article. This is a press release. The ECA wrote up a press release and apparently several agencies published it. To call this an article is very misleading.

Well it is not an editorial and it is not a press-release, rather it is an informative piece of news for those that never have heard of the ECA, or what the FDA is doing, and the stance the ECA has taken---so in my book that is an article-----------Sun
 

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"The Wallstreet Journal" did not "Report it"... the report was created by a member/supporter from here, and the association, and the blog was captured by "(BUSINESS WIRE)"...

The "Blog news", was just captured by the business section on the online version of the website. It is a robot harvester that pulls related blogs that match certain search-words.

You saw the article on a "Search", which has nothing to do with "The wallstreet journal", and more to do with "Google news".

Obviously, the article was written by the same creators of the website, as it has links to every portion of the website in the article. Journalists don't do that... web-designers do that. A journalist would have only listed the main-website page, and it would be a small link at the bottom of an actual news article... There was nothing news-worthy in the article, just a blog-rant and an advertisement. (The same links that are all over the main page of the website itself, which is also the first link.)

Stop fueling the deception.
 

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You saw the article on a "Search", which has nothing to do with "The wallstreet journal", and more to do with "Google news".

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I have read the Market Watch daily for as long as it has been on the internet. I saw the article there and reported it as I have been for months on this Fourm---not from some internet seach and there is no "deception" here. When you see an article in the NY Times reported by AP do you say it was in the AP or in the NY times------------------Lets stop the nit picking when finally our side is getting some reporting.------Sun
 
Technically speaking it is a press release. It even states such on MarketWatche's page:


PRESS RELEASE
Continued Use of Deadly tobacco Encouraged by FDA Position: Electronic Cigarette Debate Heats Up
Experts and Association Join Fight​

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(original press release through Business Wire available here)

That doesn't make it any less or more "news", but will diminish the exposure a little bit. Hopefully one of the reporters for MarketWatch/WSJ will see the press release and decide to go with it. That would be the next big step. A lot of actual news articles start off as press releases.

Hope that clears things up a little :)
 

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What is hopefully going to happen, is the FDA will react. A *good* reporter, will have seen our Press Release and then the FDA's reaction and then with both sides, write a clear article presenting both sides.

THIS is good reporting and the types of articles we want to be in. Ones that are fair and balanced and give the general public the full picture (as full as it can be in the short amount of space and time they have).

But either way... we are working on getting out there and as far as I am concerned... even the little blog hidden in the depths of the internet has readers.
 

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Let's get this straight: The Wall Street Journal is not junk. No one said it was. BusinessWire, however, is a place for PR flacks to send their company's promotion pieces in hopes of exposure. This is not a press article. It's a word-for-word PR release. No reporter examined the statements. No editor passed judgment on the piece.

No reason to be at all happy that BusinessWire ran a PR release from ECA. The stunner would be if BusinessWire did NOT carry it.

BusinessWire is full of junk. Stories by the Wall Street Journal do not appear in that computer-generated suck-up of PR releases. This is not the WSJ's work.
 

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Exactly, it is not shooting down anyones efforts, but there is no reason to inflate everyone's hope. Reuters and other newswires picking this up is not that big of a deal. When the ECF gets mention in the Journal, that is when the major news outlets will begin to pay attention.

That being said, it is still tremendous that anybody picked up the press release on the ECF is a great start.
 

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Well it is not an editorial and it is not a press-release, rather it is an informative piece of news for those that never have heard of the ECA, or what the FDA is doing, and the stance the ECA has taken---so in my book that is an article-----------Sun
Sorry I must have been confused by the fact that the original link clearly stated:
Posted : Mon, 04 May 2009 19:05:26 GMT
Author : Electronic Cigarette Association
Category : Press Release

Sorry, I just assumed "press release" meant press release. Silly me.
 

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I'm not aware (yet) of any news stories covering the ECA press release, which has been sent to reporters at the Wall Street Journal and hundreds of other newspapers, tv and radio stations and other media outlets. I've also sent the ECA materials to various folks at the FDA, including Janet Woodcock (who was listed as the presenter at today's FDA e-cigarette ban event, which appears to have been cancelled or postponed).
 
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