Want to switch from Green Smoke to something better...

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Pappy

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For juices, it can't hurt to get a sample pack from Provape just so you know you'll have some juice when the package arrives. But I would also suggest you visit some of the "flavor" threads here on the forums and get familiar with some of the vendors that get recommended fairly often, and then go to those sites and pick some and try them. The General e-liquid Forum here is a great place to start.

I suggest getting small bottles of several. Chances are you will like one of them and the others not so much. That's just the way it seems to be for me.
 

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This one is in china and takes 2 or 3 weeks to get to you but a LOT of people use them. I only order from them because they are so cheap and I love their Dekang liquids. I would recommend trying the Dekang brand flavors. They are so cheap that you can afford to try a lot of flavors for a little money. I order 50 to 100 mls every 2 weeks so I always have a supply on the way. It works out really well for me. This one will let you design your own liquids or add shots of menthol or 2x the flavor and are pretty cheap as well.
 

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Sweet, thanks guys, I'll read up more about juices now and order some more. *I think I'm gonna get the freedomsmokes tobacco sampler immediately.

Now: when it arrives: I'll charge the batteries. Fill up the tank (just watched a video on that). And that's it, right? I can start vaping?

To all posters (especially DANA!): I can't thank you enough for taking the whole day to walk me through all this. I wouldn't have ended up getting anything if it wasn't for you folks. I'm TOO excited to get this thing and see what all the talk is about.
 

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People seem to love these as well. Mrs Ts bakery uses a lot ov VG in their liquids so I don't care for them but lots of people love them. With these and the ones I gave you I bet you can find some that you like. Just remember when choosing a mix of PG/VG for your liquid more VG means less throat hit but more vapor and more PG means more throat hit and less vapor. I use 70%PG and 30%VG
Backwoods Brew
Alien Visions E-Juice
Ms T's Bakery Essentials
 

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Should I just do away with the tank altogether? Or at least that tank? Am I correct in thinking any "510" tank will work with the ProVari? Dana, you use the Provari, right? Are you using the same tank I was ordering? If so, what carto are you using inside? If I can't get all from provari.com it's not a big deal. I'd rather have the PERFECT setup and order from multiple sites then anything less than perfect.

I may be too late to this party, but if you're after the best, you can do better than those AW batteries. The Panasonic CGR18650CH IMR battery puts the AWs to shame in test after test, including voltage discharge and tests under forced shorting conditions, and it's 2250mah compared to AW's 2000mah. AWs are re-branded Panasonics and Sanyos, BTW. Pansonic saves their best batteries for their own label. For even more capacity, the 3100mah Panasonic also beat the socks off the AW. This is a protected battery. You can find both of them, as well as the Pila Charger at SuperTmanufacturing.com

If you go to the variable voltage forum, you will find a thread discussing the Panasonics, with links, datasheets and videos of the Panasonic eating AWs lunch. Or you can trust me. AW batteries are yesterday's news.
 

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Better late than never :) I'm going to get 2x NCR18650A and then I'll have 4 batteries total, which should be plenty I think. Also, did I hear correctly that these kinds of batteries will charge from empty to full in about 20-30 mins?

I'm not aware of any that charge that fast. It might be possible, but I wouldn't do it. Your 2000mah battery would need a charger that outputs about 3 amps!! In general it's not healthy to charge too fast anyway. Not healthy for the battery, that is. And if you zap them too hard, it might not be healthy for you either.

My rule of thumb is to charge them at 1/2 the rate in amp hours or less. Basically, I don't like to use a charger that charges faster than 2 hours per 1000mah. But that's just me.
 

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Yes, just read a FAQ on provape talking about AW batteries. But, since these are really panasonics… sailorman: you use the panasonics I ordered with a provape, yes?

Also, I didn't realize the charger was configurable. I figured it was like other rechargers I've used, put the battery in, wait for some LED to change color to "finished." I'm incorrect then, right?
 

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I have heard good things about these batteries as well but I use the AWs because that's what Provape recommends. I want to use the recommended batteries just in case I have a warranty issue. After my warranty period is up I am going to try the panasonics but I do love the AWs for now.

They don't actually specify that the warranty is void if you don't use AW's, do they? I can understand them saying the warranty is no good if you use "improper batteries" or "damage due to defective batteries not covered" or something to that effect, but if I ever had a warranty issue denied because I used a different brand, especially if the problem had nothing to do with the battery, I'd be irate. To put it mildly. I can't believe Provape would pull such a sleazy move. I've seen similar types of provisions from other companies, but they were out and out scuzzy outfits, so it didn't surprise me.
 

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Yes, just read a FAQ on provape talking about AW batteries. But, since these are really panasonics… sailorman: you use the panasonics I ordered with a provape, yes?

Also, I didn't realize the charger was configurable. I figured it was like other rechargers I've used, put the battery in, wait for some LED to change color to "finished." I'm incorrect then, right?

I don't use them with a Provape. I don't have a Provape. There is nothing magical about an AW battery. Until recently, AW was the only high drain "safer chemistry" battery that was reputable. So everyone glommed onto them. A device that couldn't accommodate a longer protected battery either had to use an AW or a mystery generic IMR battery. There were no alternatives.

Now, there are other "safer chemistry" high drain batteries that Panasonic is marketing under their own name. Those are the 2250mah ones. The protected 3100mah battery is a superior protected battery. AW makes (re-labels) one that is close to 3100 in capacity, but the Panasonic beat it in all the tests. The AW reached about 300 degrees during a forced short in about 30 seconds. After a minute, the Panasonic was only 185 degrees. The Panasonic is both safer and has a better discharge rate than the AW. Both of them are also high drain batteries and can handle a continuous current draw of 9.5-10 amps., same as the AWs and far more than they would ever encounter in any e-cig.
 
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