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Well I think I may mix by weight instead of by volume. I have a nice small digital scale I use for weighing food. I will try both and see what I like doing better but weighing looks faster and like less work. Love the tutorials on the forum thanks everyone.
 

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Well I think I may mix by weight instead of by volume. I have a nice small digital scale I use for weighing food. I will try both and see what I like doing better but weighing looks faster and like less work. Love the tutorials on the forum thanks everyone.
I predict you'll love mixing by weight. Try both. Some do prefer volume. It baffles me but we're all different :)
 
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I think the best way to get started it to do some research. Let me get you started.

My blogs will give insight into all aspects of DYI, from steeping to what supplies to have on hand to a basic walk through mixing your first E-juice.

E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs

Then read hoosier's blogs. These blogs concentrate on fine tuning your mix and give insight on additives.

E-Cigarette Forum - Hoosier - Blogs

Then read Boletus's blog's. These blogs concentrate on formulation of nicotine bases regarding proper calculations methods for figuring Nicotine concentration as well as safety.

E-Cigarette Forum - Boletus - Blogs

Then read Ginger's book "E-Cigarettes 102: DIY e-liquid". It is a book which I've contributed to that delivers an in depth easy to follow guide in the art of DYI.

E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid


I recommend viewing VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety and bookmark it for future reference. It explains safety in all aspects of DYI.

VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety

then read the stickies at the top of the page.

this will explain a lot of the how's and why's.


Mixing by volume may be a matter of habit for some. As chemists love to dissolve things in a liquid matrix, it is just how a lot of people are introduced to it as being the "proper" way but at the end of the day its equivalent. That's my theory at least haha

I understand your love of the sugary stuff, I come from a family history of type 2, but I have been free from it so far. I am still in love with the aroma and taste of tobacco. I have let my first batch of naturally extracted tobacco VG base flavoring sit for 2 days and its pretty spot on.

I am still combing through the helpful links posted but, I am really pumped, thanks for all the help!
 
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I understand your love of the sugary stuff, I come from a family history of type 2, but I have been free from it so far. I am still in love with the aroma and taste of tobacco. I have let my first batch of naturally extracted tobacco VG base flavoring sit for 2 days and its pretty spot on.

I am still combing through the helpful links posted but, I am really pumped, thanks for all the help!


I am a type 2 diabetic and have not seen the sweeter vapes have any influence over my A1C. Other diabetics I've spoken to don't see any issue with there health and my doctor does not seemed concerned so I don't think you need to worry about your family history in regards to vaping but just to be sure consult your doctor.
 
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@Rayonati Sloth - About this: "Some do prefer volume. It baffles me but we're all different :)"

I'm one of those who prefer volume, so I'll explain why I do, and maybe you'll be "unbaffled".

When I make my eliquids, usually in 50mL batches, I don't use beakers, graduated cylinders, nor a boatload of syringes and blunt needle tips. The expense for what I use is very minimal, and definitely just a tiny fraction of the cost of a suitable scale and probably a small weight set for calibrating it...to measure by weight.

I use (1) dropper bottle to make my eliquid in, (1) 3mL syringe w/blunt needle tip for nic base and (1) 5mL syringe and usually 3-4 blunt needle tips for flavorings. I measure out each flavoring and shoot it into the bottle, then I just squirt in plain PG (from a condiment syle bottle) to a specified mark on my bottles. Next, I shoot 3mL of my nic base in it. Then I squirt in VG (in same type of bottle) up to a mark near the top, and I'm done! It takes me all of about 2 minutes at most to wash the 2 syringes and the few blunt needle tips.

I've taught 2 other people so far, how to mix like that in the last few months, and they love it, too! One had even already bought a scale to measure by weight, but is now just using it to weigh out deer meat, and other meats, fish, etc. in portions for the freezer.

I'll bet I'm not the only one either, who has figured out why so many more people seem to decide upon measuring by weight. HELLO - there's a whole stickie at the top dedicated to measuring by weight. Where's 1 for measuring by volume? Where's 1 for measuring by drops? Also, quite a few members who measure by weight are very outspoken about it, and practically insist, that it's "the best" way to measure for DIY. Several even just flat out tell people to throw away their syringes and other stuff, and just do it by weight. Really??? There aren't many of us who measure by volume who will speak up and give our different opinion about it, because we've been met so many times by not so nice opposing comments. Many of us also realize that each newbie to DIY should choose the measuring method that THEY are personally more comfortable with, and/or can easily afford, and is just as effective as any other method, for making great eliquids in the longrun! To me, it's not baffling why people choose different measuring methods...it's a personal choice & preference, plain and simple.
 

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@Rayonati Sloth - About this: "Some do prefer volume. It baffles me but we're all different :)"

I'm one of those who prefer volume, so I'll explain why I do, and maybe you'll be "unbaffled".

When I make my eliquids, usually in 50mL batches, I don't use beakers, graduated cylinders, nor a boatload of syringes and blunt needle tips. The expense for what I use is very minimal, and definitely just a tiny fraction of the cost of a suitable scale and probably a small weight set for calibrating it...to measure by weight.

I use (1) dropper bottle to make my eliquid in, (1) 3mL syringe w/blunt needle tip for nic base and (1) 5mL syringe and usually 3-4 blunt needle tips for flavorings. I measure out each flavoring and shoot it into the bottle, then I just squirt in plain PG (from a condiment syle bottle) to a specified mark on my bottles. Next, I shoot 3mL of my nic base in it. Then I squirt in VG (in same type of bottle) up to a mark near the top, and I'm done! It takes me all of about 2 minutes at most to wash the 2 syringes and the few blunt needle tips.

I've taught 2 other people so far, how to mix like that in the last few months, and they love it, too! One had even already bought a scale to measure by weight, but is now just using it to weigh out deer meat, and other meats, fish, etc. in portions for the freezer.

I'll bet I'm not the only one either, who has figured out why so many more people seem to decide upon measuring by weight. HELLO - there's a whole stickie at the top dedicated to measuring by weight. Where's 1 for measuring by volume? Where's 1 for measuring by drops? Also, quite a few members who measure by weight are very outspoken about it, and practically insist, that it's "the best" way to measure for DIY. Several even just flat out tell people to throw away their syringes and other stuff, and just do it by weight. Really??? There aren't many of us who measure by volume who will speak up and give our different opinion about it, because we've been met so many times by not so nice opposing comments. Many of us also realize that each newbie to DIY should choose the measuring method that THEY are personally more comfortable with, and/or can easily afford, and is just as effective as any other method, for making great eliquids in the longrun! To me, it's not baffling why people choose different measuring methods...it's a personal choice & preference, plain and simple.
Were you THAT offended? I meant no offense - nor arrogance - that's just my video style. Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way.

I have done both, and I prefer weight a hundred times over. That's all. I don't mean to imply your way is wrong, and dont take my video persona too seriously, it's intention is humor but sometimes it comes across as being a jerk.

As for why there is a thread stickied on weight but not on volume, my guess is because volume was the main way of doing it for a long time, and weight takes perhaps a bit more explaining. Maybe not though.

There is no right or wrong way to mix except what works for the individual. I myself would not mix with syringes - i quit DIY for a period because i just hated that, and the scale got me back on the game. You are the opposite. We are both right, so long as we are DIYing comfortable and staying off cigs :)
 

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Were you THAT offended? I meant no offense - nor arrogance - that's just my video style. Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way.

I'm glad you figured it out, 'cause I was scratching my head about the above.

Actually, only my first 2 paragraphs were to hopefully help you become "unbaffled" as to why some of us choose measuring by volume. :) The rest of it was pretty much just to explain in part why I believe more people don't measure by volume...there's no sticky on it, and pressure does exist on here from a good portion of "the by weight" group...that it's "the way" to do it. They also add about how many supplies you have to have by volume, how much more clean-up there is, etc., which is a bunch of whooey! I wasn't offended by your comment at all, just as I hope you weren't by all of mine. :thumbs:
 

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I'm glad you figured it out, 'cause I was scratching my head about the above.

Actually, only my first 2 paragraphs were to hopefully help you become "unbaffled" as to why some of us choose measuring by volume. :) The rest of it was pretty much just to explain in part why I believe more people don't measure by volume...there's no sticky on it, and pressure does exist on here from a good portion of "the by weight" group...that it's "the way" to do it. They also add about how many supplies you have to have by volume, how much more clean-up there is, etc., which is a bunch of whooey! I wasn't offended by your comment at all, just as I hope you weren't by all of mine. :thumbs:
Hahaha I am good at confusing us all :D

I hear ya, thanks for the clarification. Your theory there makes a lot of sense.

As for me being baffled, like I said I used volume in the past - and in my experience, it does take longer, there is more cleanup (as in, there is cleanup, as opposed to none), and so me being baffled is not to say I don't appreciate the fact that someone would prefer a method that is not my own, but rather that I just don't see the appeal of volume over weight. So - wasn't meant in a judgmental way at all. I guess I see why you would prefer volume, so you have maybe half unbaffled me :thumb:

Im just glad I didnt offend you in any way, I was not happy about that prospect.

FWIW my scale was 25 bucks and came with weights, and I use it more in the kitchen than I do with eliquid.
 
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Hahaha I am good at confusing us all :D

I hear ya, thanks for the clarification. Your theory there makes a lot of sense.

As for me being baffled, like I said I used volume in the past - and in my experience, it does take longer, there is more cleanup (as in, there is cleanup, as opposed to none), and so me being baffled is not to say I don't appreciate the fact that someone would prefer a method that is not my own, but rather that I just don't see the appeal of volume over weight. So - wasn't meant in a judgmental way at all. I guess I see why you would prefer volume, so you have maybe half unbaffled me :thumb:

Im just glad I didnt offend you in any way, I was not happy about that prospect.

FWIW my scale was 25 bucks and came with weights, and I use it more in the kitchen than I do with eliquid.
Ha, I have yet to use my scale for food. Thanks for reminding me. :)
 

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I think it's important not to add your mix to a unicorn bottle. The ingredients do not have enough room to get mixed up adequately. I know this from personal experience!
Welcome! I have only been doing it for three weeks but I've already made enough to last me over a year![emoji38]
 

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I measure by volume. BUT, i generally mix 400ml and up at a time. So i use a large measuring cup for my VG then i use a 50 ml measuring cylinder for everything else. Sometimes i have to use a syringe for the nic or Ethyl Malto... since those are the smallest quantities in my juice being 1.5mg/ml and never more than 1% EM. even still in 400ml quantities those numbers round up to full ml's so nothing precise has to be done. Making in such large quantities also offers a bit of room for forgiveness if it is off by a tiny bit. We go through a lot of vape in the house.

Juice gets mixed/stored in Pint sized mason/canning jars.

I have 60ml Blue Glass dropper bottles for delivering to tanks.
 

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Im just glad I didnt offend you in any way, I was not happy about that prospect.

FWIW my scale was 25 bucks and came with weights, and I use it more in the kitchen than I do with eliquid.

In no way was I offended. You'd have known it if I was! Plus, I've read enough of your posts to know that you think about what you say before you say it. Also, so far I've not noticed any arrogance or unwillingness to see the POV of others.

By the way, when I started DIY I already had 2 scales that I could've used for measuring by weight, and a set of weights to calibrate them with. One was used (as well as syringes, beakers, graduated cylinders, etc.) when I taught Science for years and also when I was a seller on eBay. The other is still new in the package. So for me, choosing to measure by volume wasn't because of expense at all, but because I like it better! Same as you choosing by weight...after experience with both methods. It's all good! :thumbs:
 

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I measure by volume. BUT, i generally mix 400ml and up at a time. So i use a large measuring cup for my VG then i use a 50 ml measuring cylinder for everything else.

Sounds like you need 1 of the 500mL or 2000mL beakers like I've got, to mix your eliquids in! I also have 500mL graduated cylinders! You sure mix a bunch at once. :)
 

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Sounds like you need 1 of my 500mL or 2000mL beakers to mix in! I also have 500mL graduated cylinders! You sure mix a bunch at once. :)
Yea i usually mix at minimum 3.2 liters Then vape to the last drop cuz well it is a bit of a process to make them all but i get it down to assembly line like measurings most the flavorings have similar proportions of flavoring and em and nic so the pg/vg/nic can be done in assembly fashion.
 

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WOWZA! Just how many people in your house ALL like the same eliquids...to use up that much of 1 before it gets "funky" tasting???
Just me and my wife, and it is 8 different flavors LoL. although truth be told 400ml is always just for me because she doesnt like it much. Lasts around 3 months... I vape a lot!
 

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I think it's important not to add your mix to a unicorn bottle. The ingredients do not have enough room to get mixed up adequately. I know this from personal experience!
Welcome! I have only been doing it for three weeks but I've already made enough to last me over a year![emoji38]
Agreed. I use unicorns but I mix in bigger bottles first and just dispense into unicorns for ease of use.
 
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