We're freaks!!!
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It's been almost 24 hours since I started vaping. I was the smoker that had to have one before and after anything I did. Been that way for 9 years. Even though I still have an open pack and a full carton in the freezer, I have had zero desire to pick up an analog smoke. The real test was this morning standing outside with a friend that dropped in for a smoke. Me and hubby puffed our ecigs while he smoked the real deal. There is not a doubt in my mind that these things work. Not one. (In my opinion), there is no amount of will power in the world that would have allowed us to stand out there watching (and smelling) our freind with his cig. Not on day one of quitting. Ive quit before many years ago, and those first two days were almost painful trying to quit. This, on the other hand, has been a great experience. I guess I must also be a freak!
You know, if they're going to think we're freaks, then we might as well make money off it. Maybe the next time there's a vape meet we can advertise it as a freak show and charge admission. That way we'd all have enough money to buy as much vape supplies as we want for a very very long time.
Here is what gets confusing and also what messes up all the 'studies' .....anybody can quit smoking. I have quit smoking about a dozen times in the past 28 years. Its the ability to NOT GO BACK to smoking that proves to be difficult for most of us. This is what makes the E-Cig so successful.
In the past, when I quit smoking, I'd pick up a cig, it tasted horrid too. Thing was after the second or third one it didn't taste that bad and I was right back to where I started from. With vaping, ugh yeah, I do admit I have picked up a cig or taken a drag, it was gross, it didn't fix what I was trying to fix like it did all the other times I picked one up after quitting and I was able to toss it and go right back to my PV. THAT is what makes VAPING for most of us so successful! The ability to fall off the wagon but only for a second, the wagon didn't get so far ahead of us that we were not able to quickly jump back on and continue the ride to better health.
BTW, I am currently at a super high stress level these days, as in major cause for concern and yet I am not lighting up. It's great to be a Freak!
In the past, when I quit smoking, I'd pick up a cig, it tasted horrid too. Thing was after the second or third one it didn't taste that bad and I was right back to where I started from. With vaping, ugh yeah, I do admit I have picked up a cig or taken a drag, it was gross, it didn't fix what I was trying to fix like it did all the other times I picked one up after quitting and I was able to toss it and go right back to my PV. THAT is what makes VAPING for most of us so successful! The ability to fall off the wagon but only for a second, the wagon didn't get so far ahead of us that we were not able to quickly jump back on and continue the ride to better health.
BTW, I am currently at a super high stress level these days, as in major cause for concern and yet I am not lighting up. It's great to be a Freak!
Totally. I remember the first time I quit for four months I ended up having one cig for some reason and it was no problem for me, I didn't smoke for another week... then I had another one because I figured I had one a week ago and didn't start smoking again so maybe I can just have one every once in a while and be ok. Then I decided I could just have one at night after dinner and be fine, that's still only one a day. Then I decided that if I was going to have one a day it should be in the morning with my coffee, of course if I'm going to have one a day then what's the difference if I have one in the morning and one at night? It's still just two a day. You can see where this is going.....
My problem with quitting wasn't that I couldn't beat the nicotine addiction. I just enjoy the physical act of inhaling smoke and exhaling it. It's a stress-reliever for me. So when I gave up on nicorette I got a vape. I've been vaping happily for a few weeks now. I did have a couple of slip-ups along the way; it took me three bummed cigarettes to realize that I prefer vaping to smoking hands-down. I couldn't even finish a cigarette after a few days of vaping. I didn't like it.
It still gives me pride to be able to say, "I don't smoke." My PV is absolutely the reason I quit.
It still gives me pride to be able to say, "I don't smoke." My PV is absolutely the reason I quit.
Isn't it amazing how we can so easily rationalize it? So easy to slip back into it. I get told all the time that it's so easy to just quit and walk away from cigarettes. It got to the point where I thought I was defective because i couldn't walk away for any length of time. For me, my mind would tell me that everything will be better once i give in and have that cigarette. My mind still tells me that but I vape instead and it quiets the urges. Tricks my mind.
I have been smoking for 29 years I have used the Chantix and was sick to my stomach as long as I was on it. I did not smoke but as soon as went off started smoking again. I started using e-cigs 2 weeks ago and have not had a regular cig since then and guess what I am not sick to my stomach. I don't know how they can say Chantix is good for you if it makes you so sick.. So I guess I'm a freak but I seem to be in good company..... 
Back to the beginning of the thread - "I smoked the FDA way for 30 years." This is one of the best lines I've seen on this forum. Another of my favorite one-liners was, "I about vaped myself into a stupor", but I can't remember who said it. Anyway, sometimes it's good to be a freak.
Same here, and I began to get downright abusive to those idiots who either never smoked a day in their lives, or quit years ago and forgot just how tough it can be. How dare they judge me and my heartfelt efforts to kick a 25 year habit? Well, so now I'm a freak and damned proud of it. Screw them.
This is just another example of the Federal Government being wrong with everything it touches. The FDA record speaks for itself. Give me a break. Just check the record of the current clown (political hackie) running the FDA.
beenshot, that is a SWEET trike ya got there! Wind-Riders are automatically freaks, right?! What year/model is that beautiful machine? (2005 Road Glide and 1990 FXLR Low Rider in this household)
Well, I guess I have to be the freak among freaks here...
...because that quote (that I bolded) is actually true and correct.
*puts on scientist hat*
Stories about things happening, such as people successfully quitting cigarettes using pvs, are by definition anecdotal. "Anecdotal" does not mean wrong, it means they're stories. Anecdotes are not scientific evidence, however -- anecdotes are notorious for being imprecise and misleading. Scientific evidence is about eliminating uncertainty as much as possible and making precise statements.
Anecdotal evidence is not scientific evidence, and is not terribly useful in most scientific investigation. There will be no scientific evidence to support the claim until there are actually scientific, controlled studies (plural) done.
What that statement does not say is that vaping is an ineffective smoking cessation aid. What it does say is that there's no evidence (of the scientific sort) either pro or con. In other words, it says "we don't know one way or another," which is true from a scientific point of view. They are not saying we're freaks or stupid. they're saying they don't have scientific (they certainly mean clinical) evidence. Which is true.
Yes, I think it's obvious that vaping is extremely helpful. The amount of anecdotal evidence, and what statistical evidence does exist, strongly hints that it is. But it remains speculation, no matter how likely it is to be correct.
*takes off scientist hat*
This implication of that statement, however, is that vaping is not helpful. That's not what it actually says, but it is clearly the impression they are wanting people to take away. If there's any deception involved in this, that's where it is.
lol. Better freak than dead. So, vape away!
I hope this doesn't offend, but if we "pull back" and look at this from a high level, we find that all "drug sub-cultures" have this type of thing. Legal or not. Look at alcohol, tobacco, even caffeine. There's a coffee culture (Starbucks anyone?). Now, tobacco marketing/culture has given way to social stigma. It used to be "I'd walk a mile for a Camel" or "You've come a long way, baby" was a norm.
Marketing hype can create a semi-culture. So can "drug use". Entire industries arise around these things (Alcohol being probably the worst, IMHO). So, now we nicotine addicts have a new legal and effective way of dealing with the addiction. Many people see addiction, and the social groups it forms, as "freaky". These groups have their own sub-culture and terminology. "Analog" and "atomizer" are now in the lexicon. Just like "frappuccino caramel". It just takes a while for the uninformed to catch up to the culture.
FYI, I'm a caffeine addict, but I don't drink coffee. So I use the Starbucks thing as an example. It's funny to me. OTOH, I don't view people that enjoy Starbucks coffee as "freaks". It is a culture tho. Imagine a non-coffee drinker (like me) walking into one of those places and trying to decipher the offerings, then dropping mega $$ on sugar cream laced bitter water. The image is a bit funny to me.
BTW, not all sub-cultures are drug related, of course. So "goths" and "preppies" and freaks and geeks are not at all uncommon. lol.
So, you're a member of a healthier, and legal, nicotine sub-culture. Freak away.
I hope this doesn't offend, but if we "pull back" and look at this from a high level, we find that all "drug sub-cultures" have this type of thing. Legal or not. Look at alcohol, tobacco, even caffeine. There's a coffee culture (Starbucks anyone?). Now, tobacco marketing/culture has given way to social stigma. It used to be "I'd walk a mile for a Camel" or "You've come a long way, baby" was a norm.
Marketing hype can create a semi-culture. So can "drug use". Entire industries arise around these things (Alcohol being probably the worst, IMHO). So, now we nicotine addicts have a new legal and effective way of dealing with the addiction. Many people see addiction, and the social groups it forms, as "freaky". These groups have their own sub-culture and terminology. "Analog" and "atomizer" are now in the lexicon. Just like "frappuccino caramel". It just takes a while for the uninformed to catch up to the culture.
FYI, I'm a caffeine addict, but I don't drink coffee. So I use the Starbucks thing as an example. It's funny to me. OTOH, I don't view people that enjoy Starbucks coffee as "freaks". It is a culture tho. Imagine a non-coffee drinker (like me) walking into one of those places and trying to decipher the offerings, then dropping mega $$ on sugar cream laced bitter water. The image is a bit funny to me.
BTW, not all sub-cultures are drug related, of course. So "goths" and "preppies" and freaks and geeks are not at all uncommon. lol.
So, you're a member of a healthier, and legal, nicotine sub-culture. Freak away.
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People who lead change are often called freaks. Whether history sees us all as pioneering or reckless will depend on the long term effects of inhaling PG... hopefully none.... unless its clear skin or something
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