I am just going to chalk this up as a loss and won't waste my time with baker vapor again. Thanks everyone for the help and kind words and the Pm you have sent me.
What am i doing wrong with my Mt. Baker Vapor juice????
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Got my order today! I requested a freebie sample even though my order was only $14 total (only $14 left on my VISA giftcard) - and they gave me 2 free 15mL samples!! Hawk Sauce (I requested this 1) and Canteloupe - Awesome, great way to start a business relationship!!
The ones I ordered were Toasted Marshmallow and Cotton Candy, which are my ADV's from my local vape store so I wanted to compare MBV's.. As soon as I opened my vape mail, I could smell the "Toasted Marshmallow" - at first I thought they sent me a tobacco-flavor Freebie because that's the smell that hit my nose when I opened my package.. This is also the only flavor I've vaped so far; I'm not sure if they sent me the wrong flavor but it tastes and smells like Toasted HazelNut or Almond (maybe both) with a touch of Caramel, maybe a little tobacco flavor. It's very sweet, but tastes nothing like the Toasted Marshmallow I get from my usual local-vendor, or at all!
So no marshmallow flavor whatsoever - with that being said, it's absolutely delicious!! May be my new ADV, I got it in a 50/50 blend 12mg nic like always, 1 extra flavor shot.. Very tasty hazelnut/caramel/almond/(tobacco) flavor, it gives me that sweet taste in my lungs that I lovee. I got the Cotton Candy with an extra flavor shot as well, and haven't vaped it yet but noticed it has little to no smell - I read the reviews on it and people complained of low-flavor on this one. Hawk Sauce smells great, Canteloupe smells like Nail Polish Remover/Rubbing Alcohol
Over $100.00 worth all 15mil bottles from MBV, 8 months old and still taste like soap. Not a single one was or is vapable. I've gotten a few off ones from vendors that I liked other ones at but never experienced ALL of a vendor's juices tasting bad to me... except MBV. I did have one that nearly all of them did and that's right after trying MBV's juice. That was a $150.00 order and I just about gave up on vaping at that point. They had that same soap taste MBV did. I learned a lesson and only placed small orders after that and, thankfully, the next vendor I tried had ones I could vape. Now that I'm more experienced, DIYin and paying close attention, I'm pretty sure they both buy their flavorings from the same place. I've bought some from there and they all have that soap taste. I guess the one vendor had a few juices they bought the flavoring for elsewhere.
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MVB was the first online vendor I tried. They have good juice but it requires a lot of steeping. I'm not sure if I'll be ordering so much from them anymore after buying halo though. I LOVE every flavor from them I've tried opposed to just liking some of the MBV flavors. Maybe I'm just more of a tobacco person
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Just ordered (x) with three extra flavor shots. Next is (y), should I get it with an extra flavor shot? I mix (z) with a little sweetner and sweet cream. (F) needs to steep. Oh no, new flavors! Lol, need to update my cart. Must try all ten pages of flavors!!!
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Just ordered (x) with three extra flavor shots. Next is (y), should I get it with an extra flavor shot? I mix (z) with a little sweetner and sweet cream. (F) needs to steep. Oh no, new flavors! Lol, need to update my cart. Must try all ten pages of flavors!!!
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yeah, that's true I've done it myself once or twice. I just scan over when I see posts like that now though-- can't fault someone for being excited
I've done it myself once or twice. I just scan over when I see posts like that now though-- can't fault someone for being excited 
Like drrickso said, I believe the price point, freebies, and customer service are really compelling.
Out of the 12 or so juices I tried, I'll be willing to get larger bottles of a couple of the bakery flavors and hunt around for new flavors to sample.
I believe, after a while, MBV might start honing in on what is good. Their prices might come up as their flavors improve.
I'd say they are on par or slightly better than chinese, perhaps give some other USA vendors a run for their money.
Out of the 12 or so juices I tried, I'll be willing to get larger bottles of a couple of the bakery flavors and hunt around for new flavors to sample.
I believe, after a while, MBV might start honing in on what is good. Their prices might come up as their flavors improve.
I'd say they are on par or slightly better than chinese, perhaps give some other USA vendors a run for their money.
MBV was my "first juice" company. they are quick, affordable, have something for everyone, provide great customer service, and really step up when it comes to supporting certain military organizations. all of their flavors require steeping (for me) because you get them so fresh; the downside when it comes to juices that are made-to-order.
of the 50+ juices i've gotten from them - i've traded some, restocked on a few that i really liked, have 2 dozen or so still steeping, or have been used to mix with or bump up other juices.
some people stick with MVB, some move on, and some keep them in their arsenal if they really like a flavor (hawk sauce with 2 extra shots for me, but i need those extra shots because i opt for a 50/50 mix).
unfortunately, the bar was raised for me recently when i ordered a couple dozen juices from gourmet vendors. personally, i feel i'm getting what i pay for. i'm vaping juices so rich, flavorful, decadent and unbelievably well-crafted right now, it's hard to vape most of my MVB juices. even the ones with extra flavor shots just taste to muted and weak now.
as i move into DIY, i'm finding MVB flavorings to be decent as well. good starting points for me, i think. drop for drop, comparing the same flavors between capella and MVB, the latter is only slightly "less" of what it is supposed to be (like strawberry or french vanilla). i can see me using MVB flavors for crafting and trying different flavor profiles, and i'll burn through it by making juices for my friends to try (or make the switch to vaping with if i think they are good enough and something i'd vape myself).
our palates are all different, and ever-changing - regardless of how long we've been off analogs. it's been reported that our taste buds change every five years. if you don't like something today, you might love it in a month or three years! i was never a peach person myself, with the exception of a peach or two every year when they are seasonal. for the last 3-4 weeks, i seriously cannot get enough of peach now! peach tea, peach frozen yogurt, peach gummi candies, peach pie, peach e-juice, fresh peaches by the pound - i just can't get enough of it!
i can't imagine how much more you would get out of a juice after 2 months of steeping. put the ones you don't like away and revisit them in september. if at that time you still don't care for them - start mixing or PIF! i'm looking at about 50+ bottles that i'm gonna end of having to do that with. and that's ok! i dove right in when i started vaping; setting myself up to succeed and without anything left out that could lead me to saying, "well, i didn't really try EVERYTHING." i was positive i would love dessert and tobacco juices. it turns out, i pretty much loathe them both. surprise, surprise!
happy vaping
of the 50+ juices i've gotten from them - i've traded some, restocked on a few that i really liked, have 2 dozen or so still steeping, or have been used to mix with or bump up other juices.
some people stick with MVB, some move on, and some keep them in their arsenal if they really like a flavor (hawk sauce with 2 extra shots for me, but i need those extra shots because i opt for a 50/50 mix).
unfortunately, the bar was raised for me recently when i ordered a couple dozen juices from gourmet vendors. personally, i feel i'm getting what i pay for. i'm vaping juices so rich, flavorful, decadent and unbelievably well-crafted right now, it's hard to vape most of my MVB juices. even the ones with extra flavor shots just taste to muted and weak now.
as i move into DIY, i'm finding MVB flavorings to be decent as well. good starting points for me, i think. drop for drop, comparing the same flavors between capella and MVB, the latter is only slightly "less" of what it is supposed to be (like strawberry or french vanilla). i can see me using MVB flavors for crafting and trying different flavor profiles, and i'll burn through it by making juices for my friends to try (or make the switch to vaping with if i think they are good enough and something i'd vape myself).
our palates are all different, and ever-changing - regardless of how long we've been off analogs. it's been reported that our taste buds change every five years. if you don't like something today, you might love it in a month or three years! i was never a peach person myself, with the exception of a peach or two every year when they are seasonal. for the last 3-4 weeks, i seriously cannot get enough of peach now! peach tea, peach frozen yogurt, peach gummi candies, peach pie, peach e-juice, fresh peaches by the pound - i just can't get enough of it!
i can't imagine how much more you would get out of a juice after 2 months of steeping. put the ones you don't like away and revisit them in september. if at that time you still don't care for them - start mixing or PIF! i'm looking at about 50+ bottles that i'm gonna end of having to do that with. and that's ok! i dove right in when i started vaping; setting myself up to succeed and without anything left out that could lead me to saying, "well, i didn't really try EVERYTHING." i was positive i would love dessert and tobacco juices. it turns out, i pretty much loathe them both. surprise, surprise!
happy vaping
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I wish I could offer some advice but I can only commensurate. I wanted to like MBV, I really, really did. While their prices, turn-around time, & customer service definitely lived up to the hype, their juice was a huge disappointment. We got over 30 sample bottles in the order we placed & not a single one was anything we liked. I wouldn't say they were bad & I don't remember a chemical taste at all in anything but the wintergreen, the rest were just wrong. It's hard to explain.
I also felt like the juice flavor did not match the name & description. For instance, blue moo juice- I tasted not even a slight hint of blueberry, muffin, or "moo" (milk). This was true for almost every single flavor. It was like they were all undefinable & didn't make me think of any flavor I had ever tried before.
I love strong, flavorful juices with a passion but most of these were almost too much. Maybe it was because the flavors & flavor combinations were so mysterious that I hyperfocused on them but whatever the reason, they were all just wrong. I tried picking some of the popular flavors (sticky buns, extreme ice, Nutella, wintergreen, etc.) & I felt the same way about all of them. Oddly enough, I passed the bottles around to a handful of fellow vapers & every single bottle was sampled & then returned with a "Thanks, but no thanks." Obviously taste is subjective but I can pretty much guarantee that if anyone lists MBV as one of their favorite vendors then we probably have completely opposite taste buds.
I also felt like the juice flavor did not match the name & description. For instance, blue moo juice- I tasted not even a slight hint of blueberry, muffin, or "moo" (milk). This was true for almost every single flavor. It was like they were all undefinable & didn't make me think of any flavor I had ever tried before.
I love strong, flavorful juices with a passion but most of these were almost too much. Maybe it was because the flavors & flavor combinations were so mysterious that I hyperfocused on them but whatever the reason, they were all just wrong. I tried picking some of the popular flavors (sticky buns, extreme ice, Nutella, wintergreen, etc.) & I felt the same way about all of them. Oddly enough, I passed the bottles around to a handful of fellow vapers & every single bottle was sampled & then returned with a "Thanks, but no thanks." Obviously taste is subjective but I can pretty much guarantee that if anyone lists MBV as one of their favorite vendors then we probably have completely opposite taste buds.
It's just not for everyone. I like some of MBV's juices. Unfortunately the ones I like most are destroying my coils. They have a ton of flavors and they're cheap enough to try. Some are flat out great I'm in love with Johnny Chimpo, Dream Tea, Albino Drake, and Gummi Bear.
I'm a new vaper and for me I think they're a great company. They allow me to test my palate without destroying my wallet. Being able to buy like 10 juices for like 40 bucks or something was a fine experience for me. But now I've tried some better flavors from other companies with higher quality juices.
I think I'm still going to be ordering from MBV to experiment but other companies will most likely be the ones who stick around in my tanks long term.
I'm a new vaper and for me I think they're a great company. They allow me to test my palate without destroying my wallet. Being able to buy like 10 juices for like 40 bucks or something was a fine experience for me. But now I've tried some better flavors from other companies with higher quality juices.
I think I'm still going to be ordering from MBV to experiment but other companies will most likely be the ones who stick around in my tanks long term.
This is a very valid point & I didn't think of it that way. While I didn't enjoy MBV at all, I was able to buy a little bit of everything & see what I might like. Like someone else mentioned, this was one of the first online vendors that I tried. I might not have liked any of them but it did make me realize that I might like stuff that I didn't think I would like. In the beginning, I was absolutely certain that I would loooove fruits & hate dessert/bakery juices. Turns out my tastes are the complete opposite.
However, while MBV juices seem cheap enough to sample, I can spend the same amount of money at Pink Spot, Plume Room, MsT's, or some of my local shops & sample something that I'll at least vape until it's gone. Yes, they're smaller bottles but at least I can finish them & not give them away or dump them down the sink.
Maybe I should have given them a 2nd chance but I figured 35 bottles was plenty to let me know it wasn't my thing. In all the bottles that I've bought up until this point, I haven't found a single vendor that I disliked every single juice, like MBV. I usually try to tell people that while I might not have liked it then it was worth them giving it a try because they might like it, but I just can't offer this same sentiment to MBV. This bothers me because they do seem like a good company with good customer service, just inferior products that I don't feel right recommending.
I've been mostly trolling the tobacco flavors from MBV trying to find a particular flavor profile that I am searching for. 6 flavors in and they haven't gone past the "OK" stage, with one abysmal failure.
555: Decent... my issue is that I ordered WAY too high a PG ratio and I couldn't vape it in my gear.. leaked. I had to mix it with a 100% VG tobacco I got from a B&M to get it closer to 50/50. A little carmel/chocolate.
Cherry Balsam Tobacco: Horrid... chemical cherry throat drop, nothing else. Gave it away.
Coumarin Tobacco: so-so... too thin to vape and would have to mix. But not sure I like it enough to buy again. I'll have to mix to use.
American Tobacco: OK... I suspect that my B&M uses the same base flavor as its own tobacco base.
Both the Virginia Fire Cured and RY4 are good.. I am letting them steep for a while before trying again.
All kind of pale in comparison to a NET juice... after trying HHV Legend, I wouldn't even describe any of these as 'tobacco'.
Haven't moved on to different flavor types just yet.... I'll still scan MBV's lineup... I mean, the price along makes it worth it to work my way through their flavors.
555: Decent... my issue is that I ordered WAY too high a PG ratio and I couldn't vape it in my gear.. leaked. I had to mix it with a 100% VG tobacco I got from a B&M to get it closer to 50/50. A little carmel/chocolate.
Cherry Balsam Tobacco: Horrid... chemical cherry throat drop, nothing else. Gave it away.
Coumarin Tobacco: so-so... too thin to vape and would have to mix. But not sure I like it enough to buy again. I'll have to mix to use.
American Tobacco: OK... I suspect that my B&M uses the same base flavor as its own tobacco base.
Both the Virginia Fire Cured and RY4 are good.. I am letting them steep for a while before trying again.
All kind of pale in comparison to a NET juice... after trying HHV Legend, I wouldn't even describe any of these as 'tobacco'.
Haven't moved on to different flavor types just yet.... I'll still scan MBV's lineup... I mean, the price along makes it worth it to work my way through their flavors.
You did take it down to the paint store and ask them to put it into the shaker machine didn't you? MTB juice is shake activated.
I don't know if you're doing anything wrong. They were the first vendor I ever ordered from and I didn't like anything I got. I know that a lot of people swear by them so maybe I will give them another shot someday. But first impression of them was pretty sucky.
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I dont like to speak negative, but I can say my patience is wearing. 2 weeks in and half of my order is still in the shake n' bake state. My bakery flavs are good to go. I have found them satisfactory. The fruity flavs, I dont know, I will toss them into a time capsule and dig them up at a later date. I am going back to my other vender for the time being.
They gave me 2 free 15mL samples!! Hawk Sauce (I requested this 1) and Canteloupe - Awesome, great way to start a business relationship!!
The ones I ordered were Toasted Marshmallow and Cotton Candy, which are my ADV's from my local vape store so I wanted to compare MBV's.. As soon as I opened my vape mail, I could smell the "Toasted Marshmallow" - at first I thought they sent me a tobacco-flavor Freebie because that's the smell that hit my nose when I opened my package.. This is also the only flavor I've vaped so far; I'm not sure if they sent me the wrong flavor but it tastes and smells like Toasted HazelNut or Almond (maybe both) with a touch of Caramel, maybe a little tobacco flavor. It's very sweet, but tastes nothing like the Toasted Marshmallow I get from my usual local-vendor, or at all!
So no marshmallow flavor whatsoever - with that being said, it's absolutely delicious!! May be my new ADV, I got it in a 50/50 blend 12mg nic like always, 1 extra flavor shot.. Very tasty hazelnut/caramel/almond/(tobacco) flavor, it gives me that sweet taste in my lungs that I lovee. I got the Cotton Candy with an extra flavor shot as well, and haven't vaped it yet but noticed it has little to no smell - I read the reviews on it and people complained of low-flavor on this one. Hawk Sauce smells great, Canteloupe smells like Nail Polish Remover/Rubbing Alcohol
^^ I'm going to stick to sweet, bakery/savory flavors from now on from them, next time I order.. Even though the Toasted Marshmallow tasted nothing like marshmallow (and they even sent me a 3rd FREE 15mL bottle of this flavor, to make sure they didn't send the wrong 1 the 1st time!), it is absolutely delicious, excellent Hazelnut/Caramel/Cappuccino flavor, and 1 of my new favorites (ADV!)!! From the 100's of flavor's I've tried, I love it
As for the Cotton Candy, I only tried it out in my eVod that had leftover T. Marsh inside of it (which is a strong flavor, both TM and CC got 1 extra flavor shot), 2 days after I got the 1st package.. I really couldn't detect any noticable flavor from the CC, but I could taste a lot of TM that was left inside the tank, maybe a little 'sweeter' from the CC. I should've at least washed the clearo out first..
... After about a week of steeping, when I smell the bottle of CC I still really don't detect any flavor except for a light sweetness, even when I dab it on my tongue. Maybe a slightt fruity cotton candy smell/taste, but it is very faint, too faint to tell, and more 'sweet' than anything. I'll need to try it again in a fresh clearo or carto
The Hawk Sauce smelled good, but I hated it. I think the menthol in it made me cough every time I took a drag, so since it made me cough everytime I only vaped a few drags. I literally felt slightly ill afterwards, I think because I could taste that cool Menthol feeling in my lungs for awhile after even after vaping a different flavor. Gross, I didn't like menthol cigarettes either though, I could see why this is a popular flavor I guess..
Still afraid to try the Cantaloupe ('Freebie'), still smells like Nail Polish remover after steeping/evaporating for a week. I will try it soon though. Overall, amazing prices, excellent customer service, and I'm glad I found 1 great flavor for the price even though it doesn't taste like it's labeled!!
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