What are your thoughts on nicotine juice?

[Bobby Martin]

Nicotine has a very short life when it's exposed to air or water - it starts breaking down quickly and is soon gone. Since it's a naturally occurring product in a lot of different plants, it would have to be, or we'd all be wading through nicotine residue from dead plants.

With studies of third hand smoke, they've proved nicotine can have an active life of up to 30 years (found in ceiling tiles). The study specifically said nicotine from cigarette smoke, but was addressing the dangers of third hand contamination of electronic cigarettes. Additionally, the nicotine can be re-airborne via a strong desire to bond with other gases from say, nearby appliances.

I also got the feeling the author hated anything to do with nicotine and cigarettes- but hey, these are facts as well.

 

[Jammin]

With studies of third hand smoke, they've proved nicotine can have an active life of up to 30 years (found in ceiling tiles). The study specifically said nicotine from cigarette smoke, but was addressing the dangers of third hand contamination of electronic cigarettes. Additionally, the nicotine can be re-airborne via a strong desire to bond with other gases from say, nearby appliances.

I also got the feeling the author hated anything to do with nicotine and cigarettes- but hey, these are facts as well.

I have a feeling the reality lies somewhere in the middle of this and the post you quoted. Truth is, I won't be naive and feel there are zero issues with nicotine. I am sure there are some issues, as there are with most everything we touch in this world and truth is, it is considered a poison, but I don't think the concentrations that most of us come in contact with it are very scare worthy. I do think the complications are so much less than tobacco and analog smoking that I will take my chances, and just try to be cautious. I worried about the juice drippings as some articles I have read say it is very toxic, others say it is no more harmful than caffiene, and I just felt confused about all the mixed messages I was reading on the net.

 

[Zer0Kewl]

It only bothers me when I accidentally splash some in my eyes

 

[Jammin]

It only bothers me when I accidentally splash some in my eyes

OH yea, that is equivalent, or worse, to an analog eye hit. lol

 

[Xaiver]

I was blowing out a carto once, and the paper towel that I was blowing into folded funky...got like 3 drops in my eyes. Oh man that was an exciting few minutes. I'm glad that I didn't have my contacts in.

-X

 

[elwcom]

I used to get juice in my mouth a lot using cartos, I'd always rinse my mouth with water straight away (since I started vaping I have a water bottle near me 24/7)
As for desks and suck I'm bad for just wiping it with my sleeve!

 

[elwcom]

@ Xaiver
I once got juice in my eye with contacts in, I'd say it was less painful, I whipped it out straight away and it just kinda felt like I had dust in there

 

[ScottinSoCal]

With studies of third hand smoke, they've proved nicotine can have an active life of up to 30 years (found in ceiling tiles).

I would really question that study, although the study I reviewed was written by tobacco companies and regarding super-high concentrations of nicotine used as pesticide - they had an ax to grind as well, just in the opposite direction. So yeah, probably the truth is somewhere in the middle, but my gut feeling tells me the chemical stability of nicotine is fairly low. In our juice it's suspended in PG/VG, so not really oxidizing much, but once it's spilled and has a large surface area exposed to air, that process would speed up quite a bit.

 

[motox]

This is an interesting topic! Have any of you tank users ever had an accident when filling 'er up? Twice, I've been dutifully filling my tank from a 60ml bottle of juice, apply too much pressure in the wrong place and PLOOF - juice all over my face, in my eyes, on my shirt and hands. Both times, I suffered no ill effects, but I was in the shower instantly - although I smelled like coconut all the way there

 

[Riverboat]

I vape 36, and never bother with washing the stuff off, if I get it on me.

Heck, if I spill the stuff on the desk, you'd probably have to stop me from wiping the drop or two up, with my finger, and licking it off. (Yes! The desk is clean!) I can't see my way clear to wasting it, and I keep a good stockpile steeping, too.

Nic isn't a contaminant, IMHO. It's the reason I vape.

I vape 36mg also, and I put 5-10ml in my coffee in the morning to get a kick start................ Just kidding... I dont drink the stuff, yes it is toxic in a large dose...... I do vape 36mg, but I allways wash it off if I get it on my hands.....

 

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

Two mentions in this thread, babies and cats, call for especially careful precautions. If something is wiped up with a hand and then you touch something a baby may touch, which will immediately go in their mouth, there could be consequences. Likewise, a drop on the floor, or counter, table, (ceiling if they can find a way), may not be licked by a cat, but if they step in it they will clean it off, by tongue of course. Their small body weights (both examples) skew the math considerably.

Likewise, empty containers or soaked paper towels from a large spill (not drops) should be placed in another container before going in the trash.

Keep your wick wet!

 

[RobertButler]

As someone said yes, I just started using tanks and its easy to make a mess when you're not being careful and paying attention but no I have not got it in my face yet, I tend to fill down and away from my face to avoid this but I do get it on my hands rather regularly but wash it off after I am done filling and wiping. Like most people here I only really deal with juices with concentrations of 24 mg or less (usually 18 or less) I have read a few topics about this and it seemed to be more of a problem when you're dealing with stronger nicotine and breaking it down to the vapeable levels (36, 24, 18mg and so on). I know its possible to get nic at 999mg strength which is extremely dangerous to work with, even 100mg can be very dangerous but not many people deal with solutions in this strength. I have had quite a bit of juice on my hands at some points in times and have never gotten nauseous from this so I am assuming that when it happens with the useable levels of nicotine it can't be too too bad for you. No worse than the 4000 chemicals in a cigarette or breathing/getting aerosol and other chemicals of any type on your skin I would assume.

 

[Jammin]

Two mentions in this thread, babies and cats, call for especially careful precautions. If something is wiped up with a hand and then you touch something a baby may touch, which will immediately go in their mouth, there could be consequences. Likewise, a drop on the floor, or counter, table, (ceiling if they can find a way), may not be licked by a cat, but if they step in it they will clean it off, by tongue of course. Their small body weights (both examples) skew the math considerably.

Likewise, empty containers or soaked paper towels from a large spill (not drops) should be placed in another container before going in the trash.

Keep your wick wet!

GREAT points and thank you for this post!