What are your Vaping Pet Hates ;)

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John D in CT

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Why, why why is it that no matter the bottle, be it plastic or glass, round neck or flat, e-liquid has an infuriating yet almost magical property of Always clinging onto to those last few ml's?

"There's an app for that".

1) Fill remainder of bottle with Graves grain alcohol (or equivalent, which I've yet to find).
2) Make a toast. "I like to drink to world peace" - Andie MacDowell/"Rita", "Groundhog Day", 1993.
3) Drink to world peace.
4) vape on, with renewed hope, and brain cells that gave it up for a good cause.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hq5jZrFTbE

When I have a battery sitting on my desk, charging. Then I put down the battery I'm vaping on the same desk near the charging battery. Then, I casually reach down and take a drag off the battery that is charging. Never seem to ge any vapor and the threads can be hard on the lips.

Then you wouldn't want to know what it does to the nostrils.

Losing some tiny but oh so important piece of hardware, putting all out of commission. :(

Backup, backup, backup. Very important in war, like this war against killer ciggies.
 
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You don't care about your health? And I do have some useful information that many smokers don't have - that vaping is almost universally regarded as being more enjoyable than smoking cigarettes, and is considerably less harmful.

I agree with those statements, but before I explored ecigs on my own, I didn't care, I enjoyed smoking. My point is simple, I needed to want to change, in some fashion, my motivation was $$. I understood the pitfalls of smoking, and was content.

"Bad for you", in quotes??

Yes the tax was imposed for that reason, which is behavioral taxation, under that pretense, I feel there should be a tax on fast food, junk food, soda pop, as well as if you choose to not exercise.

I will never, ever stop telling people that there is now an arguably superior alternative to smoking killer ciggies, until any particular individual asks me to stop. Encouraging people to start vaping is vastly different than just telling someone to stop smoking, without offering a realistic alternative like vaping.

I've always felt example, as well as being approachable and answering questions is by far better then standing on a soapbox and shouting out is the best method. I have countless people ask me what is that, and I always answer all the questions. I tell them my story, and I tell them upfront, it is a journey unfortunately to find what will work for you, don't let any advertiser fool you and say this works for everyone. Much like there are hundreds if not thousands of brands of cigarettes in the market, there's more choices between battery, heating elements, feeding methods, and other mods out there. Hell, I still have my Blu, a few eGo's, Ali, some 6v tube from puresmoker.com, carts/carto's tons of fluid, that if they are serious, I let them test. Regardless I've helped many people put together orders based upon what they tell me.

My point is, if they are curious about it, they will ask you. I recall hating when people "Oh you know ecigs are better for you and provide a more enjoyable experience". I gave those same answers you hear people complain about, 'When I deside to quit maybe i'll try it.' or 'I'm happy that worked for you'. Also more enjoyable? That's a hard comparison as it is a different experience.


I agree that there are vast differences between cigarette smoking and vaping. One is extremely harmful and smelly, the other isn't.

The experience is different. It is not same same.

As I've said before, I don't see many rational reasons for not at least trying vaping, since I firmly believe that the vast majority of people who give it a proper try with proper equipment and juice will find that it's more enjoyable than smoking.

Rational is irrelevant, desire and free choice are. It's rational for you to eat a well balanced diet, cut out sodas and junk food, work out two to three times a week. The reality is people don't choose to. If someone doesn't want to try it that's their choice, all you can do, is keep yourself approachable for the time they decide they want to explore the world of vaping. As I said earlier, the people that continued to rant on how bad smoking was for me and I should try vaping. Were not on the list of people I questioned when I got serious about trying it. And that to me is the worst thing I could do to someone else.
 
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merlin -

You indicate that you don't care if people act irrationally, and I like to promote rational behavior. Maybe we can just agree to disagree about whether or not any particular individual has any kind of moral right to encourage any other particular individual to act rationally. Me asking you, for instance.
 

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When an otherwise experienced vaper tries to sell someone brand new to vaping on a device thats probably not going to cut it for them because they assume the noob is as concerned about "cost" as they are.

Its like telling someone you may have the cure for cancer but were not recommending the full treatment.
 

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People who try to preach to me, be it about smoking or vaping or most any other subject, are quickly and politely (or not) asked to remove themselves from my face. No one has that right.

You live in Tennessee. Yes, they do. Just like you have the right to ignore them.
 

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We're getting into some interesting ground here. I like "interesting".

Put the case that two particular things can be demonstrated to be harmful to the health of a human being; let's say, smoking cigarettes, and harboring resentment and anger toward other human beings.

Here is the Dalai Lama putting forth the latter case, and encouraging his fellow human beings to consider abandoning resentment and anger for a variety of reasons, including their own physical health.

His Holiness The Dalai Lama - Consider Forgiveness - YouTube

Should he refrain from making YouTube videos encouraging people to alter their behavior?

(Please note that Buddhism is far more a "philosophy" than a "religion", so I think it's OK to introduce his views into this forum).
 

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People who try to preach to me, be it about smoking or vaping or most any other subject, are quickly and politely (or not) asked to remove themselves from my face. No one has that right.

Some here might be inappropriately conflating "informing" and "preaching to". I have a very good success rate at getting people off of smoking and into vaping by "informing" them of this arguably superior alternative. And I'm a strong supporter of "polite".
 

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(Please note that Buddhism is far more a "philosophy" than a "religion", so I think it's OK to introduce his views into this forum).

No, Buddhism is very much a religion. It's just not the kind of religion that you can "practice" by going to church every now and then and ignoring basically everything it teaches. People think of it as a philosophy because Buddhists don't overtly condemn others for having different beliefs.

I live in Tennessee, I have the right to shoot them. ;)

No, you don't. Not for stating an opinion.

People have killed and died for those rights, and you appear to be the kind of person who doesn't understand either and puts both in danger.

My new pet peeve is not being able to decide between boges and vivi novas. The flavors are different, but I can't put my finger on which is better.

That and breaking tanks. Mostly through over-use and lazy carrying, I've broken a cartomator tube and 2 VN tubes in the last week. This is really annoying.
 

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And you appear to be the kind of person with no sense of humor.

On the contrary. I've seen many of Mostapha's posts, and rather than a humor deficiency, I think what he "suffers" from is an affliction that he shares with me; a desire for maximizing civility. I don't think that talk of shooting people is even appropriate in a public forum, and I didn't fail to notice that you seemed to downplay in an earlier post the importance of politeness, which makes me wonder what you have against it.

My pet peeve is arguing with someone who can't be argued with.

Ahh, right on time. Where ya been, stranger?

And I can certainly be "argued with" .... but "demonstrated to be on flawed logical and/or scientific ground" is another story. Usually it's just "insulted and called names".
 
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