OT and totally anecdotal,
i got my PV at the same time my wife got a nasty virus,
and i did not catch it.
That's highly unusual in this household, we usually trade sicknesses.
I'm suspecting the PG.
- joe
What Becomes of the Alcohol?
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i got my PV at the same time my wife got a nasty virus,
and i did not catch it.
That's highly unusual in this household, we usually trade sicknesses.
I'm suspecting the PG.
- joe
I've wondered about that with PG also. I haven't caught a bug since I got my PV either. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it stays that way!
To answer the question, the alcohol unfortunately does get into your system. But for most people, it's so little it doesn't matter.
The reason I know this is because I am highly allergic to alcohol. It makes me swell up, and FAST! I tried one of my buddies cartos that had 10%ish vodka to cut the thickness, and my chest immediately tightened up and I had to take a few benedryl to get back to normal. I'm fine vaping my own mixtures, and my buddy had used one of my mixtures, but only added the vodka.
But like I said, this little amount wouldn't effect most people.
The reason I know this is because I am highly allergic to alcohol. It makes me swell up, and FAST! I tried one of my buddies cartos that had 10%ish vodka to cut the thickness, and my chest immediately tightened up and I had to take a few benedryl to get back to normal. I'm fine vaping my own mixtures, and my buddy had used one of my mixtures, but only added the vodka.
But like I said, this little amount wouldn't effect most people.
Someone Who Isn't Me concludes that if you are sensitive to alcohol
and/or have issues with same,
then despite the calculations of infinitesimal dosages,
you may well notice PGA in your juice
and you may well find it unpleasant.
Yes, even at levels of 5%
SWIM further opines that the throat hit produced by PGA
is not the effect we're going for, or in any case is different
than that produced by other variables.
Posted for the sake of posterity,
and for the benefit of like-minded individuals
who can't seem to take anyone else's word for anything
and just have to try it out.
As always, YMMV.
- joe
and/or have issues with same,
then despite the calculations of infinitesimal dosages,
you may well notice PGA in your juice
and you may well find it unpleasant.
Yes, even at levels of 5%
SWIM further opines that the throat hit produced by PGA
is not the effect we're going for, or in any case is different
than that produced by other variables.
Posted for the sake of posterity,
and for the benefit of like-minded individuals
who can't seem to take anyone else's word for anything
and just have to try it out.
As always, YMMV.
- joe
I got a friend who uses alcohol and he's an alcoholic. It's been around 35 years since he's had a drink. We are very proud of him.
He has no problems. He puts it in the catogory of things like vanilla extract which he eats plenty of because he loves sugar cookies.
This question was raised in the Alcoholics Anonymous Social Group here on ECF.
The specific question was raised for those that were charged with a DUI and were given an Ignition Interlock Device for their car(a device that forces you to use a breathalyzer before you start your car, and intermitently while driving). Some alcoholics were concerned that if you vape a lot, you would test positive for alcohol in a breathalyzer. There were a lot of responses to this thead, and a lot of good input. Here are some quotes:
Also, check out this thread
Hope this helps!
Being curious I used 190 proof of Enclear and dropped a couple of drops directly on my atomizer with eliquid. It definitely had a good throat hit and I could actually taste the alcohol. It did give me a little rush. I only did this once.
I was using 10% 100-proof vodka to thin my juices, and I am certain that I did feel some low-grade effects. I do not drink much at all, as I am very sensitive to alcohol's effects in general (one beer is plenty for me), and my lifestyle does not allow much for intoxicants. I do intense martial arts, sometimes with swords, and I do chemical physics research, so I have to be very sharp both mentally and physically. For 6 weeks I was using vodka to thin, and during that time I was dizzy all the time, had little equilibrium, and my martial arts and research were strongly and negatively affected. I switched to distilled water to thin my VG juices, and all symptoms vanished. Placebo? Maybe, but...
Flame away, I do not care, but inhaled alcohol is absorbed and does go right to the brain. Whether or not it affects you significantly is another story, but it does have the potential to. There used to be a device called a brandy pipe, which was a glass pipe that you put something like cognac or brandy in, and then simply inhaled the vapor. Even a small amount will give a significant and very dulling buzz. Back in the day I had one and so did my friends, but we didn't like it after a while. It was more narcotic than fun, and too strong.
My advice is if you are sensitive to alcohol, or cannot have it or its effects even a little, distilled water works about as well. The only issue is less flavor, but upping the flavor content fixes that. The TH I am getting is every bit as good as with vodka, but then I'm not a huge TH fan anyway. I find the TH with my VG/DW juices to be almost the same as an analog, but slightly less drying than with vodka. And I'm certainly getting all the nic I need, and there is no problem with vapor production at all.
Anything absorbed by the lungs has a straight shot to the brain. This is why smoking works so well for getting a nic fix. This is a physiological fact. Whether it affects you, depending on your tolerance or general drinking habits of alcohol anyways, is another story, but the alcohol is not decomposed in the atty at all, it is only vaporized. Some is exhaled, of course, but trying to put meaningful numbers on this to say whether or not you could do it is not possible. It affected me, not to the point of being unable to drive (but who knows?), but enough that I was unable to keep up the intensity I maintain in my world, which with martial arts can become genuinely dangerous, and with doing calculus and programming can require extreme focus. And that's enough for me. I'm totally fine now with DW, and not suffering any loss of vaping enjoyment at all.
Everyone is different, and evidently many here have little to no ill effects from vaping alcohol. I'm not trying to tell people what to do at all. Nor am I trying to pass judgment, or saying that it is a bad thing. But my suspicions have been backed up by someone I know in neurophysiology, and my repeated experiments with and without alcohol had reproducible results time and time again. Please do not try to argue with me about what I felt...I got into a strangely heated discussion in another thread about this. Evidently some people get very upset if I say I eliminated alcohol in juice because it was affecting me. If it works for you, and you are not negatively affected, great, but if you do not want alcohol in your life at all, distilled water (about 20% in my VG-only juices) works really well and is quite enjoyable.
Flame away, I do not care, but inhaled alcohol is absorbed and does go right to the brain. Whether or not it affects you significantly is another story, but it does have the potential to. There used to be a device called a brandy pipe, which was a glass pipe that you put something like cognac or brandy in, and then simply inhaled the vapor. Even a small amount will give a significant and very dulling buzz. Back in the day I had one and so did my friends, but we didn't like it after a while. It was more narcotic than fun, and too strong.
My advice is if you are sensitive to alcohol, or cannot have it or its effects even a little, distilled water works about as well. The only issue is less flavor, but upping the flavor content fixes that. The TH I am getting is every bit as good as with vodka, but then I'm not a huge TH fan anyway. I find the TH with my VG/DW juices to be almost the same as an analog, but slightly less drying than with vodka. And I'm certainly getting all the nic I need, and there is no problem with vapor production at all.
Anything absorbed by the lungs has a straight shot to the brain. This is why smoking works so well for getting a nic fix. This is a physiological fact. Whether it affects you, depending on your tolerance or general drinking habits of alcohol anyways, is another story, but the alcohol is not decomposed in the atty at all, it is only vaporized. Some is exhaled, of course, but trying to put meaningful numbers on this to say whether or not you could do it is not possible. It affected me, not to the point of being unable to drive (but who knows?), but enough that I was unable to keep up the intensity I maintain in my world, which with martial arts can become genuinely dangerous, and with doing calculus and programming can require extreme focus. And that's enough for me. I'm totally fine now with DW, and not suffering any loss of vaping enjoyment at all.
Everyone is different, and evidently many here have little to no ill effects from vaping alcohol. I'm not trying to tell people what to do at all. Nor am I trying to pass judgment, or saying that it is a bad thing. But my suspicions have been backed up by someone I know in neurophysiology, and my repeated experiments with and without alcohol had reproducible results time and time again. Please do not try to argue with me about what I felt...I got into a strangely heated discussion in another thread about this. Evidently some people get very upset if I say I eliminated alcohol in juice because it was affecting me. If it works for you, and you are not negatively affected, great, but if you do not want alcohol in your life at all, distilled water (about 20% in my VG-only juices) works really well and is quite enjoyable.
Well i, for one, am not disposed to flame you.
Some people may feel threatened i suppose,
when you indicate that you were affected by the alcohol
it implies that they may be, too.
Which is what i said straight up so that others like me might save time, money, and possibly a decidedly icky feeling.
Which in turn only slightly increases the odds that others like me would listen to someone like me...
My PGA is relegated to cleaning solution duty.
Heck i could degrease my motor with the stuff.
Where is this other thread?
- joe
Some people may feel threatened i suppose,
when you indicate that you were affected by the alcohol
it implies that they may be, too.
Which is what i said straight up so that others like me might save time, money, and possibly a decidedly icky feeling.
Which in turn only slightly increases the odds that others like me would listen to someone like me...
My PGA is relegated to cleaning solution duty.
Heck i could degrease my motor with the stuff.
Where is this other thread?
- joe
Well i, for one, am not disposed to flame you.
Some people may feel threatened i suppose,
when you indicate that you were affected by the alcohol
it implies that they may be, too.
Which is what i said straight up so that others like me might save time, money, and possibly a decidedly icky feeling.
Which in turn only slightly increases the odds that others like me would listen to someone like me...
My PGA is relegated to cleaning solution duty.
Heck i could degrease my motor with the stuff.
Where is this other thread?
- joe
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/63817-alcohol-content.html
The info in that thread was based on what I know as someone who studies chemistry and biochem, and who has had first hand recreational experience with inhaling alcohol, but was then validated since then with conversations with my neuro expert. Someone else in the thread was trying to numerically prove me wrong, but did not respond to some of my rather pointed questions to see if he knew as much as he claimed. No blame here. Hope he learned something in the process. I didn't want to believe I felt effects either!
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