What exactly happens when juice steeps?
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Technically what we do is not steeping, rather curing ...
Steeping is the soaking of a solid into liquid to extract flavor. Curing best defines the chemical aging process.
The term "curing" and its process is more universally understood IMHO.
Steeping is the soaking of a solid into liquid to extract flavor. Curing best defines the chemical aging process.
The term "curing" and its process is more universally understood IMHO.
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I think more people understand the concept of "curing" than they do "steeping" simply because curing is a natural process many foods are put through.
When you say "curing" people automatically associate it with "aging" ... which is indeed what we are doing in the juice world. Steeping on the other hand is an extraction method that most are not familiar with at all.
When you say "curing" people automatically associate it with "aging" ... which is indeed what we are doing in the juice world. Steeping on the other hand is an extraction method that most are not familiar with at all.
I'll admit, when I first heard the term steeping, I had to browse a couple of threads to make sure I knew full well what was going on there.
Curing does bring age to mind.
On the same coin, as Hoosier indicated, when did the English language ever require to make sense? Plus, being that this is a relatively new concept to the world, (vaping,) as with anything new, fads, trends, what have you, there will always be a backing of cultural contexts and slang. <--- Run on sentences for the win!
Curing does bring age to mind.
On the same coin, as Hoosier indicated, when did the English language ever require to make sense? Plus, being that this is a relatively new concept to the world, (vaping,) as with anything new, fads, trends, what have you, there will always be a backing of cultural contexts and slang. <--- Run on sentences for the win!
Yeah ... I could care less WHAT we call it. lol
I was just stating another term you can use that might make sense to more people. I sometimes find myself using the term "curing" to people who are unfamiliar with ejuice and usually I never have to explain further. When I use the term steeping, I sometimes get that "WHUT?" expression. haha
I was just stating another term you can use that might make sense to more people. I sometimes find myself using the term "curing" to people who are unfamiliar with ejuice and usually I never have to explain further. When I use the term steeping, I sometimes get that "WHUT?" expression. haha
Well, nobody took the hint when I started using "maximizing entropy" for steeping, so I switched to steeping and continue to argue against the folks who equate steeping with airing juice.
Curing is usually associated with hams, concrete, and grout. Most don't understand what happens when curing a ham and might confuse it with smoking a ham... But curing is generally thought of as solidification, hardening, or congealment of some compound. Maybe that's a regional thing?
Steeping sprang from leaving the tea in the water for a bit longer to get more flavor as far as I can tell. I thought it was a well known process? Maybe it's a regional thing? My grandmother used to say the stew needed to steep a bit longer when she meant simmer longer.
Curing is usually associated with hams, concrete, and grout. Most don't understand what happens when curing a ham and might confuse it with smoking a ham... But curing is generally thought of as solidification, hardening, or congealment of some compound. Maybe that's a regional thing?
Steeping sprang from leaving the tea in the water for a bit longer to get more flavor as far as I can tell. I thought it was a well known process? Maybe it's a regional thing? My grandmother used to say the stew needed to steep a bit longer when she meant simmer longer.
Bring the steeping leaves in tea analogy does help to better picture what the process entails, when using it in context with e-liquids. If someone would have said it like that for me in the beginning, it might have saved me a couple of pages of reading 
Yeah, I don't often steep leaves, nor do I often cure hams. For the matter speaking, I don't even often age my juices, aside of natural untouched blends, waiting on the shelves, pleading for a second chance at satisfying my palate.
Yeah, I don't often steep leaves, nor do I often cure hams. For the matter speaking, I don't even often age my juices, aside of natural untouched blends, waiting on the shelves, pleading for a second chance at satisfying my palate.
When I started vaping...about 3 years ago now...I thought steeping was a myth.
The crap I tried as soon as I got it was just as crappy after sitting around for awhile. I really didn't see the effects until I started mixing so dang much and I found some of my mixes changed from the time I made and tested them to the time I found those bottles some time later. Most don't need it, some require a steep, and a select few actually get worse if they age, but are amazing within the first 2 weeks.
The crap I tried as soon as I got it was just as crappy after sitting around for awhile. I really didn't see the effects until I started mixing so dang much and I found some of my mixes changed from the time I made and tested them to the time I found those bottles some time later. Most don't need it, some require a steep, and a select few actually get worse if they age, but are amazing within the first 2 weeks.
It's so common in the English language to misname processes and apply a word to the wrong thing, why not coin a new word for this process as applied to e-juice. " Mix the flavors together and let them frump for a few weeks" ?
Actually, steep works fine for me.. as in "tea steeping".
I seem to remember the Vaporcast boys putting out a video for a Peppermint Patty and then announcing that it totally sucked after steeping a while.
Actually, steep works fine for me.. as in "tea steeping".
I seem to remember the Vaporcast boys putting out a video for a Peppermint Patty and then announcing that it totally sucked after steeping a while.
The Great Luke Ski may have Frump trademarked.... Nope, just checked, he has FuMp trademarked, so frumping your juice should be good to go.
(He sent me an advanced copy of It's Good To Be The King as I was one on the inspirations for the song. Now, try to top that geek cred!)
(He sent me an advanced copy of It's Good To Be The King as I was one on the inspirations for the song. Now, try to top that geek cred!)
Nothing happens.
"Steeping" is the only thing invented by "US Made" liquid manufacturers.
They buy their products overseas, they have no idea how they interact chemically, and they don't want to give you a refund.
Just saying.
"Steeping" is the only thing invented by "US Made" liquid manufacturers.
They buy their products overseas, they have no idea how they interact chemically, and they don't want to give you a refund.
Just saying.
Really?????
Sometimes the hubris on ECF astonishes me
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Nope, I don't.
I'm not a chemist.
I have no idea how different compounds will react with each other.
I leave the responsibility for e-liquid production to a Bio Tech lab. Not a basement.
Ah, that's why your post in the DIY sub seemed odd. I mix my juice in my dinning room, the basement is my woodworking shop. We have a few chemists on here, but I don't know if they mix in the basement or not.
Just got lost on the way to the Bio Tech lab...
(Not sure what biology technology has to do with juice, but Puff will be fine after the DNA is sequenced.)
lol
You guys are feeding him. I suppose if you're bored, continue with this drivel. No need to expend energy trying to convince one person your opinion, I have felt that sting in the past, and it surely isn't worth it. Allow him his say, and allow it to dissipate within the thread's posts.
You guys are feeding him. I suppose if you're bored, continue with this drivel. No need to expend energy trying to convince one person your opinion, I have felt that sting in the past, and it surely isn't worth it. Allow him his say, and allow it to dissipate within the thread's posts.
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