...that issue had to do with the old 33.5Mhz Vamo V5 and earlier chips.. not a problem with the later chips. No reattlesnakes here.
What happened to Provape?
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...that issue had to do with the old 33.5Mhz Vamo V5 and earlier chips.. not a problem with the later chips. No reattlesnakes here.
Someone else said built in batteries. you were right in your post, and I tend to agree with what you said... built in batteries = 500 charge life for the entire mod. But not all box mods have built in batteries like what I was referring to. It was more of a discussion on a box Vs. Tube type discussion.
I've used both and to me it all depends on the width of the mod. I have small hands and anything too wide is uncomfortable to hold.
Right now Im using an Innokin Disrupter and my Provari.
What I like about the Disrupter is that the battery is replaceable and affordable.
Thanks for clearing that earlier post up for me as well.
Battery charges are a very important factor. Like zapped said, a built-in battery gives a mod a finite life. My main mods are fine after 3 years and I'm just starting to replace worn out batteries, but what about the one with a built-in battery that I really like? Even though it vapes great, especially with a Diver V2, I don't use it very much, since when it's gone I won't be able to replace it. I will be very sad when my pumpkin dies.
It's a novelty device, of course, but the market changes so quickly that I doubt many of the Chinese mods on the market now will be replaceable when they expire. I really dislike being forced to buy anything "New and Improved."
It's a novelty device, of course, but the market changes so quickly that I doubt many of the Chinese mods on the market now will be replaceable when they expire. I really dislike being forced to buy anything "New and Improved."
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I like the idea of the Disruptor. I'm a little gun shy for that mod though. Since it's an innokin only product, I'm more concerned about a year from now, how hard will the batteries be to find? Also, I am already invested in 18650's. I have 14 of them ranging from 4 VTC4's (married pairs), 4 Samsung 25Rs(married pairs), 2 PvSTOs, and two LGs HE4. and 2 Panasonic PDs.
I'm with zapped on tasting the difference. Most every regulated device other than the Provari has PWM spikes that affect the flavor and heat in my vape to the point I can't enjoy it.
I won a Cool Fire IV recently, and Innokin has recently implemented an improved PWM, 100mhz I think, which is much smoother than most all other chinese mods. I believe it is in the MVP 3 also, and was similar in my Evic, which died after a couple drops. Not quite as good as the Provari, but pretty damn good.
Every time I use the Cool Fire, it is with the sad realization that within a year or so, it's built in battery will die. If I drop it and something stops working, tossing it is pretty much my only option. What a waste of a very nice device.
Bottom line, a Provari gives me the smoothest regulated vape, durability and repairability (is that a word?). It is an outstanding American tool, and offers great bang for the buck in the used market. The peace of mind it provides this lower watt vaper is only approached by some mechanical mods, but the Provari gives a more consistent vape.
Battery charges are a very important factor. Like zapped said, a built-in battery gives a mod a finite life. My main mods are fine after 3 years and I'm just starting to replace worn out batteries, but what about the one with a built-in battery that I really like? Even though it vapes great, especially with a Diver V2, I don't use it very much, since when it's gone I won't be able to replace it. I will be very sad when my pumpkin dies.
It's a novelty device, of course, but the market changes so quickly that I doubt many of the Chinese mods on the market now will be replaceable when they expire. I really dislike being forced to buy anything "New and Improved."
I'm imagining the Bobo and Calabash with Provari innards -that would be a party! Gotta love the Bobo!
I think it comes down to how well they sell. If the Disrupter doesn't take off, what incentive would Innokin have to keep producing the components? An example is the Innokin iTaste VF RDA. One of the selling points was a removable deck that could be switched out with other styles of decks they planned to make. It's been over a year and no other decks have come out, most likely because the first version didn't sell. I was hoping to try different decks; luckily it was cheap.
Thats the exact combo I'm on right now. Provari and Disrupter.
No difference between vape quality I can tell whatsoever.
The difference for me is that at 30w I can make 5ml of 6mg juice hold me all day with just a few whacks here and there. With the Provari I have to be on that thing all day long. I'd have to either suck on the Provari non stop (ruining the hand to mouth progress I've made) or increase the nic level (not gonna happen, trying to get that monkey off my back).
It might be a tad short, but I'm sure I will make something work when the Calabash bites the dust.
Bobo takes 18650s, so he will be fine. He also has a 5 amp limit Lol! although I don't remember the ohms/watts limit.
Im surprised that there hasn't been hardly any talk about Provape's view on safety. The reason it takes Provape longer to push out a product is that they really test out the products. Plus another reason they don't make high powered devices is about safety.
Too many vapors want to push the limits on what their device can do and it can be dangerous. Scares me to death of talk about these 200 watt mods coming out and now you hear about people building .05 ohms! Whats next....nega-ohms?
Too many vapors want to push the limits on what their device can do and it can be dangerous. Scares me to death of talk about these 200 watt mods coming out and now you hear about people building .05 ohms! Whats next....nega-ohms?
That's very true. One concern that has been mentioned is the popularity of using the ProVari in 18350 mode and not every vaper being aware of the 18350 battery limitations.
This safety rhetoric is all mixed up in the fact they want to keep their units modular.Im surprised that there hasn't been hardly any talk about Provape's view on safety. The reason it takes Provape longer to push out a product is that they really test out the products. Plus another reason they don't make high powered devices is about safety.
Too many vapors want to push the limits on what their device can do and it can be dangerous. Scares me to death of talk about these 200 watt mods coming out and now you hear about people building .05 ohms! Whats next....nega-ohms?
If they wanted to make identical units in different lengths they could better suit the needs of many vapers.
They could use an 18350 version with the standing watt and current limits...
An 18490 version with a little more umph...
And an 18650 version capable of 0.5 ohm and 50 watts...
Only difference would be 2 extra sets of firmware and tube lengths.
All versions would be extremely safe and they'd expand their market.
So the 15 and 20 watt limits "for safety reasons" is pure, unadulterated hogwash. B.O.L.O.G.N.A. ... it has a first name.
Hell... they already have the different tube lengths... and with the p3, put out the money, time and effort to supply all 3 with the device.
The difference in firmware would be a few lines of code. Would take a code monkey all of 5 or 10 minutes to create 3 from 1.
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What happened to Provape? Well, they didn't make a "box" style mod. IMHO
I'm sorry, Ocey. But i adamantly disagree.
See my last post.
If you're fine with the limitations and prefer the smaller form factor, that's great. There's a way to keep you safe despite yourself and still give others enough room to grow or play. (You in a general sense, not you specifically.)
The toppers that work very well that are saturating the market today demand more. Much more.
So do many vapers. Many, many vapers.
And the silly proprietary extra connection... Nobody's falling for it... but I guess if you magically strip your stainless steel 510 threads it's easy to replace.
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Or mess up that 510 connection
Yeah, that was one of my boo-boo's. I had a Vivi Nova on the P2 and knocked it off a just above waist high shelf. It broke the Vivi threads below the top of the 510 connection in the P2. Had to send it in for repair. No charge to me except shipping to ProVape. I had even sent it to Bronze (member here) as he thought he could fix it for me. He ended sending it to Provape for me.
The whole process between me and Provape was painless and they even shipped to my new address (I was in the middle of moving to Florida from Philly) when I was ready for them to send it back.
It was at our going away party where the incident happened
Edit to add: If that extra connection had been on the device, I would have been able to just remove the thing and either gotten a new ring or maybe even been able to get that Vivi Nova threading thing out.
Or mess up that 510 connection
Yeah, that was one of my boo-boo's. I had a Vivi Nova on the P2 and knocked it off a just above waist high shelf. It broke the Vivi threads below the top of the 510 connection in the P2. Had to send it in for repair. No charge to me except shipping to ProVape. I had even sent it to Bronze (member here) as he thought he could fix it for me. He ended sending it to Provape for me.
The whole process between me and Provape was painless and they even shipped to my new address (I was in the middle of moving to Florida from Philly) when I was ready for them to send it back.
It was at our going away party where the incident happened
Edit to add: If that extra connection had been on the device, I would have been able to just remove the thing and either gotten a new ring or maybe even been able to get that Vivi Nova threading thing out.
That's a bit different than what I was thinking. I was more focused on one extra electrical connection, the fact it's nearly impossible to screw up a good 510 female connector and the idea of the added proprietary connection after the industry had already widely standardized on 2 connections with 1 being phased out.
But who knows, maybe you'd have had better luck, maybe not.
I'm sorry that happened to you. Must have been frustrating. I would have been kicking myself.
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Speaking of 510 female connections; nothing stands up to my Fat Daddy 510. I understand that it takes up a bit more room, but it reads anything. My other mods sometimes seem to get moody.
I had my Ego Twists for backup at the time. I sure did get another P thingy for backup because I know how I am with things.
I tend to be one of those people that panic at first then let it go. It is what it is and I can't change what has happened so.... Deal and move on.
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