What happened to Provape?

[beckdg]

I had my Ego Twists for backup at the time. I sure did get another P thingy for backup because I know how I am with things.

I tend to be one of those people that panic at first then let it go. It is what it is and I can't change what has happened so.... Deal and move on.

That's why we got the provaris too.

Because I know how the wife is with things.

Got her one and me one as a backup for us both.

I was using a v2 vamo as my daily driver at the time.

That was a big jump then.

Now my latest piece of gear is going to cost me over $600 just for the mod.

And to think I thought $60 was outrageous at one point...

Tapatyped

 

[tj99959]

Battery charges are a very important factor. Like zapped said, a built-in battery gives a mod a finite life. My main mods are fine after 3 years and I'm just starting to replace worn out batteries, but what about the one with a built-in battery that I really like? Even though it vapes great, especially with a Diver V2, I don't use it very much, since when it's gone I won't be able to replace it. I will be very sad when my pumpkin dies.

It's a novelty device, of course, but the market changes so quickly that I doubt many of the Chinese mods on the market now will be replaceable when they expire. I really dislike being forced to buy anything "New and Improved."

Me too!
I found the vape I like a long time ago, and since it's the vape I like ... why would I want to change anything!

I look at TC, mega watt PVs, triple head tanks, and all the rest, and all I can think of is "don't make me vape that ... it's not what I like".

Almost everything that I like will work on my V1 with it's 2.5a limiter.

 

[beckdg]

Me too!
I found the vape I like a long time ago, and since it's the vape I like ... why would I want to change anything!

I look at TC, mega watt PVs, triple head tanks, and all the rest, and all I can think of is "don't make me vape that ... it's not what I like".

It's good to have choices.



Tapatyped

 

[Bad Ninja]

I like

I like the idea of the Disruptor. I'm a little gun shy for that mod though. Since it's an innokin only product, I'm more concerned about a year from now, how hard will the batteries be to find? Also, I am already invested in 18650's. I have 14 of them ranging from 4 VTC4's (married pairs), 4 Samsung 25Rs(married pairs), 2 PvSTOs, and two LGs HE4. and 2 Panasonic PDs.

The disruptor and the new Innokin TC device use the same LiPo battery.

It'll be around for a while.
The Innokincell is their new power source for their new line of devices.

 

[tj99959]

It's good to have choices.



Tapatyped

I agree with that.

But PLEASE, I already made my choice ... so don't take it away from me.

The Innokincell is their new power source for their new line of devices.

But it only works on Innokin devices, and since it's a LiPo, that will probably be it's downfall as a viable power source.

When I buy batteries, I expect them to work in every PV that I have .... including an Innoken.

 

[Baditude]

I think a B&M selling P3s on clearance has more to do with profit than anything else. The mark-up on ProVaris isn't much compared to what they can sell other products for. I imagine B&M customers mostly come in 2 flavors: the ones who just want to quit and would be happy with an eGo-ish style that works and the ones who want the newest shiniest device on the market. Either one has a bigger profit margin than a ProVari.

This, exactly.

I worked all of 2014 at a vape shop in Cincinnati. All of the employees vaped a mechanical mod with sub ohm RDA's. I was the only one using a Provari and cartotank. I had at least a dozen regular customers who purchased a Provari and cartotank simply because they had tried and liked what I was using in the store, and we didn't even sell Provari's at my shop. Although the manager owned and liked Provari's, he told me the shop couldn't make a profit selling Provari's because of the markup that would be required.

I was the only employee who used and sold any cartotanks. Again, those that I converted from using clearomizers to cartotanks were happy with their purchase. However, cartotanks were a tough sale even for me because of the limited selection of tanks we carried and not selling tank tools. Management wasn't interested in carrying IBTanked cartotanks because they couldn't reach a profitable deal with OCD (IBTanked owner), and hadn't made enough profit selling cartotanks in the past. Management wouldn't stock a $2 cartotank tool in store to help me make a cartotank sales. Prospective buyers asked how can you sell a product without the necessary tools?

Management made a commitment to push mechanical mods and rebuildables. It's what they could make the most profit on, and as I soon learned its all about the money.

Our customers fit into the two categories above: noobs and intermediate vapers looking to get a decent vape to stop smoking (ego's and low-powered regulated mods) who weren't interested in rebuilding, and the cloud chasing crowd. (The shop sponsored cloud chasing contests, too.) Management decided employees had to use in store what was sold in the store, so I had to stop using my Provari while at work and use a mech mod and rebuildable atomizer.

 

[AndriaD]

I understand that.. and I do believe they make a superior product. And yes, for the moment (things could change), they are good for tootie puffers... But, the point I was trying to make, is every ecig that's made that I can think of, Even a Snowolf 200w, can be throttled down to suit a tootie puffer's level. There's nothing the Provari offers to the table except their name and customer service. I can take my Taifun GTII off my Vamo, and put on a protank II... thinking... the Tootie puffer mod called the Provari won't fit my atomizer without an adapter. As far as thread quality goes... That remains to be seen. Most threads now are stainless steel. What it boils down to nowadays, is not the materials, or the features. The vaping culture moves very quickly, and the name brand gear has changed. It's as if Provari is like a BMW.. they're still trying to sell the same car since the 70's. Still a good car, still well made, still a luxury item... but the newer models offer luxuries that weren't out back then, and can still be well made. Yes, I will equate the Provari to "vintage".

(Pssst... it's TOOTLE puffer... )

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

I won a Cool Fire IV recently, and Innokin has recently implemented an improved PWM, 100mhz I think, which is much smoother than most all other chinese mods. I believe it is in the MVP 3 also, and was similar in my Evic, which died after a couple drops. Not quite as good as the Provari, but pretty damn good.

Every time I use the Cool Fire, it is with the sad realization that within a year or so, it's built in battery will die. If I drop it and something stops working, tossing it is pretty much my only option. What a waste of a very nice device.

Actually I think the vv3/vv4 also have that type of power scheme.

But a year out of a $35 Coolfire4? Seems reasonable to me. Plus the fact that I already dropped it rather violently and nothing broke; it works as perfectly as it did when I first got it -- which maybe explains why it's got such a solid heft; it's a very solid device -- a drop on a tile floor wouldn't faze it if being flung violently about 4 ft onto concrete didn't hurt it -- pretty sure that's also true of the vv3/vv4; I seem to recall someone posting a pic of their vv3, quite a while back, that had been dropped from some terrifically high place... and it looked beat to hell, but it still worked.

Really glad the mod that hit the driveway was the CF4, and not one of my iStick30's -- pretty sure that would have killed an iStick.

Andria

 

[roxynoodle]

Actually I think the vv3/vv4 also have that type of power scheme.

But a year out of a $35 Coolfire4? Seems reasonable to me. Plus the fact that I already dropped it rather violently and nothing broke; it works as perfectly as it did when I first got it -- which maybe explains why it's got such a solid heft; it's a very solid device -- a drop on a tile floor wouldn't faze it if being flung violently about 4 ft onto concrete didn't hurt it -- pretty sure that's also true of the vv3/vv4; I seem to recall someone posting a pic of their vv3, quite a while back, that had been dropped from some terrifically high place... and it looked beat to hell, but it still worked.

Really glad the mod that hit the driveway was the CF4, and not one of my iStick30's -- pretty sure that would have killed an iStick.

Andria

You might be surprised, lol! I throw my isticks off tractors on a pretty regular basis,and ran over one. They've kept on going. I bought them for beaters, and well, they're taking a beating.

My 20W is almost a year old now and still going fine. I didn't expect that, but it is.

 

[Boden]

I dropped my P2.5 off the counter in my kitchen with a KFL on it. Landed base down and cracked the 12x12" tile

Good thing I had extra tiles.

I don't think the P2.5 noticed, not a mark on it.

 

[AndriaD]

You might be surprised, lol! I throw my isticks off tractors on a pretty regular basis,and ran over one. They've kept on going. I bought them for beaters, and well, they're taking a beating.

My 20W is almost a year old now and still going fine. I didn't expect that, but it is.

I dropped my first iStick30, my pink one, the very first day I had it -- but only about 2 1/2 ft onto a tile floor. It still works, which kinda surprised me. But I just don't see mods encased in anodized aluminum to be as hardy as those encased in steel. The iStick30s do seem to be the best of whole iStick bunch; they do step down, and none of that battery misbehavior so common to the 50w's.

Andria

 

[WillyZee]

An update on the rumoured $90 P3 ... just got off the phone with Division Vapor and they do not have the P3 on clearance and never did.

They have the 2.5 at $100 and the P3 is $200.

Anyhoo ... good luck ever finding a new Provari in a bargain bin anywhere.

I had a feeling the OP was not telling the truth about $90 P3s he said he found on clearance.

Just another ProVape hate thread.


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[roxynoodle]

I dropped my first iStick30, my pink one, the very first day I had it -- but only about 2 1/2 ft onto a tile floor. It still works, which kinda surprised me. But I just don't see mods encased in anodized aluminum to be as hardy as those encased in steel. The iStick30s do seem to be the best of whole iStick bunch; they do step down, and none of that battery misbehavior so common to the 50w's.

Andria

These are all 50Ws I use for beaters, and that I ran over. Got them all in February. I was worried after seeing the high failure rate of the group buy ones, from which I got two, but no issues thus far with them. I do use tanks on them so no leaking juice. Longest battery life of any mods I own, and I own 9 dual battery mods. I love using them when I'm out and about, and they fit well in my purse. I've been reluctant to recommend them due to the issues reported, but they've done very well for me. I'm not in the habit of mistreating $200 mods so the isticks fill a necessary role for me, and are doing it rather well. I do like the CF4. I think its very attractive, and like the price. I haven't picked one up yet, but very well might. Lately I've needed more high power mods as I'm finding myself wanting to use some different attys that need one. And I'm using tc more and more.

 

[coolerat]

I'm super tight with a buck and a big part of being cheap is taking care of what I have. Which allows me to buy other nice things. People that think Provari's cost alot would cry themselves to sleep if they knew what some of my tools cost.

So I've never dropped a mod of anykind. provari's toughness will never be tested by me. Although I think its possible due to its shape. Tubes aren't very stable.

Do people dropping all these mods have cell phones?? I just got my wife and youngest daughter new iPhones 6's and with the tax they were 900 bucks each. I assume mod droppers all have to use pay as you go flip phones??

 

[AndriaD]

I'm super tight with a buck and a big part of being cheap is taking care of what I have. Which allows me to buy other nice things. People that think Provari's cost alot would cry themselves to sleep if they knew what some of my tools cost.

So I've never dropped a mod of anykind. provari's toughness will never be tested by me. Although I think its possible due to its shape. Tubes aren't very stable.

Do people dropping all these mods have cell phones?? I just got my wife and youngest daughter new iPhones 6's and with the tax they were 900 bucks each. I assume mod droppers all have to use pay as you go flip phones??

I don't have a cellphone at all. If I did decide to get one, I'd get one either at Walmart, their family plan, or maybe MetroPCS, since both use flat-rate billing. My son had an iPhone; he sat on it and the glass cracked all to hell, and AT&T is still trying to chase him down for an old (3 yrs) bill. I don't have apple computers, and would never buy an Apple phone either.

Andria

 

[coolerat]

Its a fact that if you sit on a phone it will break and ATT will want there money no question there.

I bought an Iphone 5 when they first came out 3 years ago. It looks and works like new.

You know you've arrived when you set the iPhone down, pick up the Provari and sit down at the iMac.

(I actually sit next to the iMac, wife is a photographer and its for business I am not allowed near it, I have a crappy Windoze box)

 

[Robino1]

I'm super tight with a buck and a big part of being cheap is taking care of what I have. Which allows me to buy other nice things. People that think Provari's cost alot would cry themselves to sleep if they knew what some of my tools cost.

So I've never dropped a mod of anykind. provari's toughness will never be tested by me. Although I think its possible due to its shape. Tubes aren't very stable.

Do people dropping all these mods have cell phones?? I just got my wife and youngest daughter new iPhones 6's and with the tax they were 900 bucks each. I assume mod droppers all have to use pay as you go flip phones??

I have one of those cases that keep a cell phone safe from someone like me. Same for my iPad

 

[philoshop]

I'm still waiting for the Provape phone. I wouldn't have to replace it 3 times a year.

 

[WillyZee]

I'm careful with things that break like a cellphone ... however, the Provari? ... I drop those as often as I dropped Bic lighters when I smoked.


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[AndriaD]

I'm careful with things that break like a cellphone ... however, the Provari? ... I drop those as often as I dropped Bic lighters when I smoked.


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That's exactly why I forced myself to get used to metal driptips; they don't break when you drop your mod on the floor. Delrin's pretty tough too; my delrin knucklehead just popped apart, easy peasy to put it back together. Glass, jade, and acrylic will all break when hitting a tile floor; dunno about wood, but it might depend on the hardness of the wood, and if it has any weak points like a slender "neck".

Andria