What happened to rip trippers?
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In response to flavoring affecting him or anybody Rips own line of liquid uses flavoring from companies known to use diketones in their flavoring and fought with our ignored inquiries. Capellas are some shady people.
FlavourArt is the only major company completely dedicated to safer vaping.
Hangsen claims to be.
Flavorers Apprentice at least makes it known about certain flavors.
DIYFS and ecigexpress(own line) both swore their flavorings didn't contain any diketones when I asked 2 years ago. Now at least Diyfs has a warning on certain flavorings.
The irony in Rip complaining about side effects of flavoring when he uses the shadiest of flavoring companies in his own line of liquid he pedals to the masses is just called karma....
FlavourArt is the only major company completely dedicated to safer vaping.
Hangsen claims to be.
Flavorers Apprentice at least makes it known about certain flavors.
DIYFS and ecigexpress(own line) both swore their flavorings didn't contain any diketones when I asked 2 years ago. Now at least Diyfs has a warning on certain flavorings.
The irony in Rip complaining about side effects of flavoring when he uses the shadiest of flavoring companies in his own line of liquid he pedals to the masses is just called karma....
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You do know He has his own line of E-liquids, right? Shouldn't he be up on concerns and standards?
Did you know Flavor Art is getting Flavors Certified For Vapors? yes, not just approved for safe use, but Certified Safe. Several are in Test stage now with more to follow.
The Video is Questionable regardless of any claimed/possible conditions. "Shilling and denying shilling."
A True PSA would have left out all the cut/clip/snip editing and the Product Hype and been presented in a reasonable manor for all Vapers to hear and understand. I remember the Rip Tripper of days gone by and he can communicate is a normal respectable fashion.
How many people died last year world wide from inhaling Cigarette Ingredients | R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company
Now were down to two / three of the lung irritant compounds, testing confirmed 100 X's less, hell I'd be happy with 50 % less .............. shady ......karma ? you may want to search a little deeper into RAI, these people put a whole new meaning to the word business development / "shady" ...............
Really, that's your response? By the way, the sky is blue, water is wet, and fire is hot.
You cite big tobacco as being bad? Tell me to look deeper like big tobacco lying and deceiving and cigarettes containing 1000s of chemicals is news?
People, me included, P.O.'ed because He CLAIMED NOT to be Selling anything, but the whole Video was Commercialized and he even had Links that made him Money......That IS SELLING and a COMMERCIAL.
He should have stuck to what he created and left well enough alone. Now people see just how far he is willing to go for a Buck.
Video pulled to minimize damage.
We should all be very P.O.'ed because he posted on {Moderated} YOUTUBE that there are HEALTH related SIDE EFFECTS cause by vaping...
The last thing this community needs is someone with over half a million subscribers to go on the "air" and talk about the "side effects" of vaping... who TF cares if he's trying to sell something, but he obviously didn't consider the side effects of his dang video... the media would it eat that alive.
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You have flavor company A B C D. Inhaling diacytel is bad. Inhaling diketones is bad. Flavor company C has a custard that tastes fantastic, their vanilla too. Tastes so much better than A B D companies despite being a smaller company.
So much richer. Their website says proudly,"Our flavoring is diacytel free". How do they produce such rich bakery flavorings though, when companies like Hangsen and Flavour Art either don't or can't produce comparable products in the same category despite having delicious flavoring almost across the board? Vanilla custard, cake batter, even some fruits...
Yes the flavorings from company C are diacytel free but, not diketone free. In fact they contain acytel propynal(spelling?) Which has been found to possibly be even worse than diacytel.
Inquiries are ignored or responded with how safe the flavorings are and that they're diacytel free. Yet years later they reformulated and come out with version 2 flavorings of the same name. Why? Because they're so safe?
So much richer. Their website says proudly,"Our flavoring is diacytel free". How do they produce such rich bakery flavorings though, when companies like Hangsen and Flavour Art either don't or can't produce comparable products in the same category despite having delicious flavoring almost across the board? Vanilla custard, cake batter, even some fruits...
Yes the flavorings from company C are diacytel free but, not diketone free. In fact they contain acytel propynal(spelling?) Which has been found to possibly be even worse than diacytel.
Inquiries are ignored or responded with how safe the flavorings are and that they're diacytel free. Yet years later they reformulated and come out with version 2 flavorings of the same name. Why? Because they're so safe?
Really, Link the Non Biased study please.
We get enough grief as is. Don't parrot.
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Sort of like The Marlboro Man, huh?
Just so I get this straight:
Any and all conditions, side-effects, etc. that have to do with vaping are BS......because there are no conditions caused by vaping. And, any and all such things should not be mentioned, esp. in public and esp. not on YouTube.
Similar to the Marlboro Man, who was a role model and prime spokesperson for his "brand" and the smokers who smoked them....his celebrity came with a responsibility to protect the smoking lifestyle.
Got it!
By your ethical standards, a video like this (today) would probably be considered treasonous.
Bashing a mod for being unsafe, for the whole world to see---just imagine how the ANTZ would be lovin' this huh?:
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Just my .02...
Never seen the guy give anything a bad review, but I didn't watch all his videos either.....
I'll stick to Phil Busardo...
Never seen the guy give anything a bad review, but I didn't watch all his videos either.....
I'll stick to Phil Busardo...
Most vapers do not support the stance your claiming Racehorse and you know that so not sure why your fixating on it at all beyond stirring a pot no one else is bothering about. If these issue's were such a big deal for riptrippers then why hasn't he gone into greater detail on it in the hundreds of past video's he just happens to mention them in an advertisement video hmm. Just to restate the majority of vaper's understand that research is ongoing and there needs to be a lot more research before we completely understand what effects vaping has on the human body generally and until that time no reasonable person makes statements that vaping is 100% safe or without side effects.
Not parroting. I was one of the first to express concern in 2014. My thread died. I avoid these flavorings and I really like good custard. I can make that choice because I have the information to come to a conclusion for myself.Really, Link the Non Biased study please.
We get enough grief as is. Don't parrot.
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Joe end-user going to overpriced local B&M hasn't a clue as he buys his hipster facial hair $30/30ml custard flavored vape.
Is everything conclusive? Not even close. Maybe 20 years from now diketones at vaping flavoring levels are harmless. Maybe not. People should be aware though.
Vendors/producers should be taking it upon themselves to either not use or make customers aware certain liquids contain flavoring that may or may not be harmful in the long run.
Half of Rips liquid line up are cakes and custards....
If you are referring to the side effects, of what this post is about, (calf and forearm cramps, Hyperthyroidism, dry skin on knuckles) please explain to me how this has remotley anything to do with flavoring
There are areas of concern regarding vaping that's a fact as is that vaping is many magnitudes safer then smoking tobacco I vape because I wanted out of tobacco I never once in all the time I smoked worried about the chemicals in cigarettes and I am not going to start doing it with vaping. How other people want to approach the issue is entirely up to them but there is no moral high ground on either side and the choice is the same as it's been on everything in life weigh all the factors and if you feel there is to much risk involved don't do it.
Your right, what was I thinking ?
I almost thought TROLL, but with his vast knowledge of chemistry since 2014, I stand corrected ...............
On with the RIP Roast ....................
I don't care how many subs Rip has...he will never be the face of vaping. I even give the anti vape community more credit than that. He's a nut job who figured out how to make money doing what he wants to do. Good for him....he's living the American dream. But he's turned himself into someone who's impossible to take seriously. So, good for us.
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