What "I" think does NOT matter much

[Baditude]

It does seem that the forum has been somewhat dominated by the rba fad/trend, as well as the classifieds. I've had the opportunity to sample a variety of RBA setups, and most often my friends will caution me "hold it this way, with the hole here, to get a good hit". I like to put my vape in my pocket, pull it out and vape it without much effort and without leaks.

I just saw a thread where a relatively new user was interested in a mechanical mod, and the responses were mostly - "that's mainly used for RBA and SLR". I must be outside of the ECF "mainstream" as I just like to drip a 510 atty on mine or use clearos. Buying replaceable heads at $.50 a pop on a co-op is the most exciting delivery system development I've seen in the last year.

One of the vaping community's most knowledgeable members, who also hosts an informative vaping show, prefers a 3 ohm Boge carto on a 3.7 volt mechanical mod. He loves the flavor and simplicity.

This is a very valid point. ECF for the most part attracts a lot of vaping hobbyists, and much of the talk currently is the high end of vaping - RBA's or rebuildable attys. Fact is, when you factor in the entire vaping community nationally or worldwide, the vast majority are using simple stick batteries or eGo batteries.

 

[gthompson]

Most reasonable Provari owners would never recommend them as a first device. Ignore the fanboys.

 

[DavidOck]

Most reasonable Provari owners would never recommend them as a first device. Ignore the fanboys.

Golly, I didn't realize there were reasonable Provari owners

 

[gthompson]

Golly, I didn't realize there were reasonable Provari owners

So you're calling me unreasonable?

 

[WattWick]

Seems a lot of people think more expensive is better. My experience is that more expensive is what you go for if you have specific wants for your purchases. I.e I use a bottom-triggered mech mod for the shortness and pocketability, not to be part of the cool crowd. I use sub-ohm coils for those short cig-like draws, not to come forth as a pro. Actually, I think it's easier to coil low-res than high-res.

In the end, our gear is extremely simple in terms of mechanics and electronics. There's really not much to it. If it works for you, keep using it. I "upgraded" to mech mods and RBAs since I wasn't 100% happy with anything in the eGo (or smaller) size range. Very much personal preference.

The only time I question peoples gear is when they say they're not too happy about it.

 

[gthompson]

Whatever keeps you off cigs is the "best".

 

[DavidOck]

So you're calling me unreasonable?

Said the cat to the monkey?? While I do have a spinner, I don't have those nifty goggles

 

[WattWick]

@gthompson Indeed! What I dislike about using a mech mod / RBA setup is that I can't just recommend a starter to spend that kind of money on something they're likely not to understand at first. On the other hand, there's not really one clearo setup I'd recommend either. Carto tanks on eGo batteries tend to scare people off due to size.

Wish there was an overall higher quality in vaporizers. There's a huge hole in mid-range availability. Either you can buy cheap crap or handmade $150+ gear.

 

[DC2]

The real problem is that no vaper really knows what they want and need before they start.

How large of a device are they going to be comfortable with?
Can they vape one flavor all day, or are they going to need to switch it up often?
Do they like to tinker and futz with things, or do they need something as simple as possible?
How important is vapor? Flavor? Throat Hit?
How much can they afford to spend?

All of these factors, and more, will decide what setup is right for any given person.
And even then, there will probably have to be some compromises.

 

[Tepid]

On the other hand, there's not really one clearo setup I'd recommend either.

Actually, that can also be very subjective. What I started with 1 year ago (eGo 510 bridged atty with batten filler) I would not recommend at all.
It was also part of the reason I stopped vaping and went back to analogs. (among some other reasons)

Today, My recommendation as a starter is Vision Mini Vivi Nova's and eGo Spinner or Twist.
they are simple to use, they do give good vape. Again, this is subjective, but for a starting point, that is where I re-started and would recommend.

I also agree with the OP.

Just for the record, On the setup that I re-started with, I am not completely analog free, but I went from 4 cartons a month Marb's Reds 100's to a pack and a half.

 

[Pappy]

. . . Today, My recommendation as a starter is Vision Mini Vivi Nova's and eGo Spinner or Twist.
they are simple to use, they do give good vape. . . .

+1. That's exactly what I recommend to new vapers. Easy, affordable and it works.

 

[supermarket]

I guess I should have added it is/may be a good idea for a 'starting' point, or basis of reference.

But I keep reading posts about "this chart says xx and it tastes burnt, why" along with the next sentence being I "like it here".

Well, if you like 3.2 volts on a 3 ohm dual coil. Who cares if it's only 3.4 watts. If it floats your boat, sail with it.

For quite a while I got into the thinking about 'why' so many were cranking up the volts, on such low ohm stuff. Drove me nuts for a while that I never 'could get the juice tasting anything but burnt' that high.

Finally I just got to the point where it was "so what"!

I'm finding my sweet spot is right around 3.7volts, into 2.0 ohms. It works - for ME.

Just trying to say the 'charts and such' are not indisputable laws, when it comes to vapeing and enjoyment.

You should have included that in your first post!

After reading your first post, I figured you had a bad experience somewhere, or SOMETHING was really bugging you.


You should approach everything this way. People are ALWAYS looking for advice, and looking to "learn" from those who have explored more so, and done it for longer than them. This isn't just with e-cigs, this is with EVERYTHING.

I love reading, learning, and listening to others.....but NOBODY knows my body , not even a doctor, as well as I know mine. Also, no one's experience will EVER be more important to me, than my OWN experience. It should always be the same for everyone else.


Now, I see most people on this forum being so specific with their questions, answers, and suggestions, not because they think they're way is better, but because it is a HOBBY for them. People LOVE to explore their hobbies, and sometimes we get big headed and foolishly think we have all the answers.



This IS a good thread for newbies to check out though

I do see a LOT of threads with people asking what is the BEST. Best e-liquid, best delivery mechanism, best battery, etc etc. Best wattage to use....best this or that.

The BEST is what you enjoy the most.....not what someone ELSE says performs better

 

[JudeD]

Shortly after I started vaping (May 2012), I started using a twist with a clearo. But because I was chasing that elusive perfect vape, I've bought cartos, tanks, a Provari, a REO, e-Rolls, vivi novas, etc. I still use all of those things (except the cartos, don't like cartos) but about seventy percent of the time I use the twist with the same style clearo I used in those first months. It works for me. It isn't perfect, but it's closer to perfect than all the others I've tried, especially now that the heads can be easily changed. The twist doesn't have the power or the battery life of the Provari, but it's more comfortable to hold. I don't regret buying the other systems since I love using them to change things up and in specific circumstances, but my best purchase would be the twists I bought. I just bought some Protanks because they are similar to the clearos I like, but hold more juice. I'm sure I'll buy other items in the future that catch my fancy. But I don't worry about what others are saying is the best, most powerful, right way to do it. I know that there are a lot of members who hate the clearo I use and have nothing but bad things to say about it---doesn't matter because it's what works for me.

Even though I use the clearos a lot of members warned against, I still appreciate all the reviews, suggestions, charts, and advice on here. I just take what helps me and skim through the rest, knowing that it probably applies to some other member and will help them. And if I can offer some advice or tell about an experience I had that might help another member, I do. It's all part of belonging to a forum. I belong to writing forums and I have to sift through those, too, because I don't need to know how to write plays or poems or mysteries and the writing process that works for others is completely wrong for me. There are members on there who are absolutely positive that they know the only correct way to create a first draft. I skim their posts to see if there is anything that is worthwhile to me and then move on. I think you have to do that on any board you visit, not just here.

 

[Myrany]

I have an ancient KR808-D battery that refuses to die; I use it when I drive. Why I don't like mucking with a button when driving. I sit less than optinal vapor delivery? Yep but I prefer my mind to be on the road and not on the PV.

At home I had the 2 ego-C batteries that I started with. They are great and I use them alot with CE5 clearomizers. No muss, no fiddling, solid vape. I tend to use those while gaming. Pick it up take a hit put it down and go kill some orcs.

I recently added a Vamo to my collection. I did it maily for the big battery life. Lets face it living in Louisiana power being out for sometimes DAYS at a time is a factor. I like being able to charge half a dozen batteries before the hurricane and weather the storm cig free is priceless.

I have started dabbling in rebuilding the heads for my CE5s and Protank. Mostly because I am cheap but also because I have no local shops. If I run out of anything I have to order it. A rebuilt head can tide me over while I am stalking the mailbox.

In the end though if I had to settle on one setup I could live with forever it is still my ego-C batteries and CE5s. consistent trouble free vape. But that is me. Not everyone will feel the same.

 

[JudeD]

I have an ancient KR808-D battery that refuses to die; I use it when I drive. Why I don't like mucking with a button when driving. I sit less than optinal vapor delivery? Yep but I prefer my mind to be on the road and not on the PV.

At home I had the 2 ego-C batteries that I started with. They are great and I use them alot with CE5 clearomizers. No muss, no fiddling, solid vape. I tend to use those while gaming. Pick it up take a hit put it down and go kill some orcs.

I recently added a Vamo to my collection. I did it maily for the big battery life. Lets face it living in Louisiana power being out for sometimes DAYS at a time is a factor. I like being able to charge half a dozen batteries before the hurricane and weather the storm cig free is priceless.

I have started dabbling in rebuilding the heads for my CE5s and Protank. Mostly because I am cheap but also because I have no local shops. If I run out of anything I have to order it. A rebuilt head can tide me over while I am stalking the mailbox.

In the end though if I had to settle on one setup I could live with forever it is still my ego-C batteries and CE5s. consistent trouble free vape. But that is me. Not everyone will feel the same.

I'm sorry. I'm seriously not one to criticize or point out people's spelling errors, but I had to laugh at your one line---"I sit less than optinal vapor delivery?" After a few minutes, I realized you were saying "Is it less than optimal vapor delivery?" but at first I was trying like heck to figure out what you were saying you were sitting on and why sitting there was giving you poor vapor!

 

[chellemmm]

Yep. To what Myranny said. I like my Ce4s, though!

That is funny! Even funnier is that I read it "right," as she wrote it...

 

[Myrany]

I'm sorry. I'm seriously not one to criticize or point out people's spelling errors, but I had to laugh at your one line---"I sit less than optinal vapor delivery?" After a few minutes, I realized you were saying "Is it less than optimal vapor delivery?" but at first I was trying like heck to figure out what you were saying you were sitting on and why sitting there was giving you poor vapor!

I have Cerebral Palsy my hands do not always work as they should and I do not always manage to catch all the errors. Sorry

 

[chellemmm]

Myranny: I do NOT have CP and I still make a lot of errors! It is ALL good!!!

 

[SissySpike]

The charts are meant to be a general guideline.

I've never understood why people use low resistance attys at high voltage, either. I prefer a cooler vape experience, I don't need the experience of a torch in my throat or lungs. I've also never understood why some people prefer using a sub- 1 ohm coil on a mechanical mod for the same reasons.

Then again, there are many who refuse to admit that a Provari is the best variable voltage mod regardless of price.

Touche on working the provari in your reply;-) Im going to have to disagree with you about sub OHM I have a .08 OHM dual coil in my Ithaka and its awesome! Granted its a battery draining have to keep the juice flow control wide open set up, but its also a massive vapor and flavor producing monster!
I can go ether way on warm or cold vape it just depends on the juice for me some seem better warm and some cold. Its all a matter of personal preference.

 

[JudeD]

I have Cerebral Palsy my hands do not always work as they should and I do not always manage to catch all the errors. Sorry

No, you shouldn't be apologizing. Like I said, I never would have even said anything except I thought it was funny that I got stuck on what you were sitting on. Your meaning should have been clear right away except I was having a seriously blond moment. I agree with your post, by the way.