What is going on with Chinese post?
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This makes some sense but not with stock that is bought by an individual consumer. The supplier is pledging normally to supply the item within a reasonable time. It sounds like your turntable supplier should have been a bit more up front that they weren't going to pay for a delivery until their order quantity filled their personal container.
It's not true that shipping companies will not sail unless they have a full container but it does of course have to be paid for.
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Of course anything can be had for a price. The question is, who is going to pay for it? It’s not like the freight company is going to turn to the exporter and say “Hey, our ship is only half full, I will need to charge you double!”. Nor are they willing to consume that extra cost just for the sake of a few days delay….if it is even that long. Their objective is to freight as much product with as little overhead as possible.
The turntable was purchased through a B&M which due to an inventory error I was given the choice of a refund or have the distributor order one through the manufacture. The price of freight was already bundled into the retail cost, so I did not pay extra for shipping - and because of this, the table took its usual distribution process which includes waiting for containers destined for Toronto (or Canada) to be filled. The container was not owned by the manufacture. Had I have paid extra for shipping I am positive I could have received it sooner. The retailer had no idea of this process and the distributor usually only orders in bulk. Regardless, all parties involved, including the manufacture were very open in giving details on its progress. And as I stated above, this may not be the case with online foreign retailers, but gives another perspective as to delays with international shipping.
Post NL is just one of a few options given by Ali Express, they actually have Post NL has a longer method of shipment than e-packet but i always find Post NL far quicker than quoted although until you get use to it the tracking leaves a lot to be desired until it gets out of China. They have e-packet as a quicker delivery on Ali Express that tempts people but in reality it is dealt with by China post and takes at least twice as long as Post NL.
Yes I agree and undestood very well previously, but I don't think it's particularly pertinent to the current china postal problems. They would not wait for a full air freight container before they sent the item because that is what they have contracted to do. They would simply take a loss on the shipment and see it as an unplanned expense. Of course in reality these companies are rarely under capacity so this doesn't happen very often.
I don't thing the Chinese are any less trustworthy than anyone else. Any business knows that the way to win customers is to provide a good service and I personally think that FT does that and is very honest about their processes and transactions etc. I think rather this all related to an efficient and probably over zealous party security/customs department that has been given a specific brief.
I hope my stuff comes soon....there are some nice things included not to mention 4 mods which i'm looking forward to
NL post is pretty good except at first it is difficult to lacate the package as even when it's in china they reference it in a non localising way. NL, like DHL has their own depot's in china.
Sorry but this is complete bull
They are from China, so I asked..
It is security related somehow, it's Beijing sending packages back to FT etc, so something is going on..
China and some new tariff might explain it..
How this person feels about the Chinese government we can debate all day.. I'm not planning on it however. It's one person's opinion who lived under that rule and got out... I have no experience to speak on the matter.
I was looking mainly at what they think was the reason for the recent pile up, and the thought process was there is a new tarrif.. that is worth sharing regardless.
I agree, China exports large volumes to the West which makes up possibly the largest part of their economy so stop the trade to the West stops the money from the West going into China, hate the West or not it would be economic suicide.Sorry but this is complete bull
Where did she even say China wanted to stop trade? They aren't trying to stop trade, according to her, just make more money off it..
Was planning to place a couple orders this weekend, and take advantage of the sales.
Will not now, and none in the future, until this is resolved.
Will not now, and none in the future, until this is resolved.
Half of what she said looks very much will discourage people from buying from China, same thing they need to encourage trade. I get things sent from China all the time using all different methods, nothing has changed, if it goes through China post it takes forever and doesn't seem to move (that has always been the case) all other delivery methods i get in the same fashion in the same time frame as i always have.
Yes I agree and undestood very well previously, but I don't think it's particularly pertinent to the current china postal problems. They would not wait for a full air freight container before they sent the item because that is what they have contracted to do. They would simply take a loss on the shipment and see it as an unplanned expense. Of course in reality these companies are rarely under capacity so this doesn't happen very often.
I don't thing the Chinese are any less trustworthy than anyone else. Any business knows that the way to win customers is to provide a good service and I personally think that FT does that and is very honest about their processes and transactions etc. I think rather this all related to an efficient and probably over zealous party security/customs department that has been given a specific brief.
I hope my stuff comes soon....there are some nice things included not to mention 4 mods which i'm looking forward to
My comments above are based on ship freighter and not air. And again, not exclusive to the current delays but a good possibility with delays in general. I am sure there are a million other possibilities.
Fasttech has outlined their policies with lost packages within their FAQ. The packed must be verified lost by the carrier prior to any refund. They have also outlined the grace period in which a said carrier determines whether package is lost or not.
I've ordered here and there from Fasttech over the years. Sometimes, there's a significant discount.
I've been reading reviews and looking around at popular MTL atomizers lately and finally decided there wasn't much out there that tops the ones in my collection. I own most of the top MTL winners anyway, thanks to ECF member reviews. With the Tariffs imposed lately prices are bound to rise unless China vendors take a loss to retain USA sales. Lots of stateside vendors have what we want and it's obvious that Trump wants USA sellers to make the profits.
I'm willing to pay a little more to a US vendor to get it in several days instead of weeks. Under the latest pressures from tariffs I expect costs to go up for USA vendors over time and that means we'll pay more.
I've been reading reviews and looking around at popular MTL atomizers lately and finally decided there wasn't much out there that tops the ones in my collection. I own most of the top MTL winners anyway, thanks to ECF member reviews. With the Tariffs imposed lately prices are bound to rise unless China vendors take a loss to retain USA sales. Lots of stateside vendors have what we want and it's obvious that Trump wants USA sellers to make the profits.
I'm willing to pay a little more to a US vendor to get it in several days instead of weeks. Under the latest pressures from tariffs I expect costs to go up for USA vendors over time and that means we'll pay more.
heck all of us order from China all the time, we know the deal...
China's internal problems are their own, their own concerns and battles. Not mine.
If their own government seizes and destroys a package that shouldn't have been destroyed and then refuses to repay a company like FT for their loss, I don't see it as my lookout.. I really don't.
If workers steal merchandise and sell it on eBay (and we all KNOW that happens all the time) and the company is out money over it I just don't see it as my lookout..
it's neither my fight not my business.
If the Chinese people feel wronged, then let them fight their government to right that wrong.
It's not my lookout. it's not yours. it's not any of ours. it's theirs.
There are so many people in this world that "hate" the western mindset it's unreal... I can tell you stories of sitting in a room with a terrorist and hearing ALL his opinions..
who cares? lol.. seriously? So what people hate my chosen way of life.. they sure do love my money and so we come to agreement together, in peace.
That happens when each has something the other wants.
So no.. no one is going to stop doing business with China unless they feel internal Chinese problems are their lookout and I would tell them the same... it's not their lookout, and not their fight.
We have our own fight here.. that's what's worth fighting for, that's what is my lookout.
It's a new tarrif, according to my friend. I just didn't want to end up butchering her words, and lose meaning somehow..
her English isn't always perfect.. Maybe I should have just adlibbed, but I hate doing that when I'm quoting from an actual person.
Ordering from the US when i am in the UK is a non-starter, again it comes down to postage, the cost of getting anything from the states is ridiculous, i can order from anywhere else on the planet and delivery is a fraction of the cost.
Seems it's not just a "western" country problem.
Same issues for many products ordered from many countries:
China Post Forum – Tracking System for China Post Register Mail ,EMS ,ePacket
Same issues for many products ordered from many countries:
China Post Forum – Tracking System for China Post Register Mail ,EMS ,ePacket
Everything you have just put in that post i would agree with so why not just post the section about Tarrifs instead of all the anti Xi Jinping stuff and then when someone says it's rubbish get defensive. You posted it on here not me! Personally if i had sent messages to a friend and found out they had shared those messages with a forum they would be an ex-friend.
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