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Value is too often though of as cheapest these days. Best deal also seems to evoke cheapest any more.
Seeking the cheapest at Amazon and eBay is about as dependable as buying a scratch off lottery ticket for rent money.
Value and best deal used to mean best bang for your buck or even the word investment. Sometimes it costs a dollar to get back 2 in return but spending 50 cents ends up costing 3 dollars.
The best method would be to invest time to research which products are reliable for a given need and where to purchase said item(s) from a known reliable source. Best deal would be buying that known reliable product at the most reasonable cost. The combination results in the best value.
The unscrupulous seller clearly understands these concepts but knows the way people are in general will lead to lots of sales to folks looking for the cheapest price. They invest time and money in setting up a business designed to lure purchasers in who clamor for the lowest price. It's why the knock off market flourishes so well these days.
I know plenty of people who proudly wear Rolax watches.
Seeking the cheapest at Amazon and eBay is about as dependable as buying a scratch off lottery ticket for rent money.
Value and best deal used to mean best bang for your buck or even the word investment. Sometimes it costs a dollar to get back 2 in return but spending 50 cents ends up costing 3 dollars.
The best method would be to invest time to research which products are reliable for a given need and where to purchase said item(s) from a known reliable source. Best deal would be buying that known reliable product at the most reasonable cost. The combination results in the best value.
The unscrupulous seller clearly understands these concepts but knows the way people are in general will lead to lots of sales to folks looking for the cheapest price. They invest time and money in setting up a business designed to lure purchasers in who clamor for the lowest price. It's why the knock off market flourishes so well these days.
I know plenty of people who proudly wear Rolax watches.
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Thnaks for the info, im pretty sure i saw the same model i have tested and well claimed from moch, i only have 2 mxjos active at moment for use, gonna stay with LG and samsung for best results!
PD: anyway i guess im not in danger zone with them, using them on single 18650 mech tube, running 0.45ohm, (0.35sometimes, still safe ) safe for the job!
Regards,
The problem with rewrap batteries like MXJO, they can change the cell that they rewrap at any point and you wouldn't be aware that they did. Mooch's bench tests are only good for the date that he did them. The following month the company could change to an even more inferior cell with poorer specifications.
That's why to use authentic batteries made by the Big Four battery manufacturers. LG, Samsung, Sony, and Panasonic/Sanyo. (Panasonic doesn't offer a model with the specs we vapers require)
thanks for the hand there, im totally aware about the real deal with batteries, those ones were sent by my cousin, i dont use mech and regulates as much as i did in the past, safely i always stood with LG's, new mxjo's were sweet to use some days,
thanks mate!
Regards,
Yeah, I got them working but they drained quickly... and I wasn't aware that those cells aren't rechargeable (first time using a device that uses them) my others still work temporarily. As for the wattage I usually use under 100 watts (but the kit goes up to 299watts(
I think you meant to type 200 Watts max. The batteries should be rechargeable, and shouldn't be thrown in the trash regardless of if they are no longer good. You should get 300-500 cycles out of them before you'll need to replace them entirely.
All cells safe to use for vaping are rechargeable.
Do you have an external / stand alone 2 or 4 bay charger? if so which one ( brand name & model #)
Or are you recharging the cells inside the power device?
What exact cells are you using now?
If you're unsure, what is the color of wrap & any letters or numbers on the wrap so we can help identify.
I'd suggest;
2 - LG HG2
2- VTC5A
2 - Samsung 25R
Most important, buy your batteries only from known reputable dealers.
I look at it this way. The best value battery to me is the one least likely to give me an ER bill and a claim to my insurance carrier for fire damage to my property. If that means spending a few dollars more a battery it's worth it.
The funny thing is it costs no more for a name brand battery than a rewrap. I can get a Sony VTC5A or a Samsung 25R for $4 from a reliable vendor like IMR. If that's too much of an investment it's probably best to stick to mods with internal batteries.
The funny thing is it costs no more for a name brand battery than a rewrap. I can get a Sony VTC5A or a Samsung 25R for $4 from a reliable vendor like IMR. If that's too much of an investment it's probably best to stick to mods with internal batteries.
Non-rechargeable 18650 batteries? Where the heck did you find those? Had to be the wrong chemistry batteries.
The batteries we use for vaping are "high drain", high discharge, rechargeable batteries. The ones you apparently were using that "drained quickly" were likely "low drain", low discharge non-rechargeable batteries.
I hope you finally have gotten a grasp of what batteries that you need and where to purchase them. A lot of people here have taken a portion of their time to help educate you. Good luck.
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^ What @sonicbomb said... don't skimp on batteries. ^
^ What Charlie said, quality over value. ^
I have 4 dozen Sony VCT5A's that are used for all my 18650 uses (don't use the 2 dozen Samsung 25R's, dozen LG HG2's, dozen Vapcell or endless 18650, 18490 & 18350 AW IMR button tops anymore because I no longer use the gear they were bought for). In most of the gear I run now days I run 20700 and 21700 batteries.
If I were to buy more batteries before the vaping apocalypse and still needed more 18650's it would buy a dozen of the Molicel P26A's, and two to three more dozen 21700's...either Molicel P42A's or Samsung 30T's or some of both (to be determined when I find out just how much wider the Molicel is than the Samsung to be sure of mod comparability). All my current 20700 are the same Mooch recommended (at the time anyway) iJoy 2000mAh, all my 21700's are the same Vapcell INR 4000 mAh, and they both will fit in any of the mods I run them in. (In a pinch most of those mods will also run 18650's with the included adapters they came with... my one and only 26650 DNA TC mod can as well.)
^ What Charlie said, quality over value. ^
I have 4 dozen Sony VCT5A's that are used for all my 18650 uses (don't use the 2 dozen Samsung 25R's, dozen LG HG2's, dozen Vapcell or endless 18650, 18490 & 18350 AW IMR button tops anymore because I no longer use the gear they were bought for). In most of the gear I run now days I run 20700 and 21700 batteries.
If I were to buy more batteries before the vaping apocalypse and still needed more 18650's it would buy a dozen of the Molicel P26A's, and two to three more dozen 21700's...either Molicel P42A's or Samsung 30T's or some of both (to be determined when I find out just how much wider the Molicel is than the Samsung to be sure of mod comparability). All my current 20700 are the same Mooch recommended (at the time anyway) iJoy 2000mAh, all my 21700's are the same Vapcell INR 4000 mAh, and they both will fit in any of the mods I run them in. (In a pinch most of those mods will also run 18650's with the included adapters they came with... my one and only 26650 DNA TC mod can as well.)
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Yes and I'm glad to hear that your being safe. When I think back to some of the things we used to do to our batteries it's quite sobering.
The P26A is a good all-rounder but if you're a mech user you may prefer the VTC5A... P26a has got more capacity though but not by much.
I have always preferred mech mods. Around 75 of my mods are mechs, but mounting mesh atty's on most of them I don't consider an option. The VTC5A's were bought specifically for my mech's and the many TC mods bought that I also used at one time (but only three TC's are still in use now days running mesh RTA's). So now days I only use six of the mech's to run mesh RDA's on, and the rest of my mesh RDA/RTA atty's run on regulated mods.
It's been forever since I ran a tube mod, so just for S&G I've thought about trying to find a still like brand new VGOD Elite I have boxed up someplace to run either a mesh RDA or RTA on. I don't have any mesh atty's with a copper finish, but do have several black ones that would look in place on it.
Old picture with an Avocado 24 RDTA and the VGOD RDA.
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how about Vandy Vape Jackaroo Mod, Vandy vape swell, Innokin Adept ZLIDE, WISMEC Reuleaux Tinker 2 200W Box Mod, VZONE eMASK Mod, Wismec Active Mod, Vandy Vape AP Mod? all of them are waterproof, shockproof, dustproof.
Tauren do a lovely copper tube...
Lovely throw on the switch and a hard hitter. Costs about 40 euros
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