Just to see people's opinions of design, functionality, and performance, I wanted to see which APV or hybrid that people love or covet the most? Having never used one, I cannot evaluate the models. However, on the looks and features alone, if I could have one, I think it would be The Katana. Anyone who owns any of these masterpieces please tell us what makes it the "holy grail." Thanks!
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I'm not sure there is one. Everyone will have their own preference, I love my Provari, and my Helix, and my Empire. I'd never part with any of them. Some people love the GG, I hate mine and should probably get rid of it. But to me, the holy grail, best mod in the world is the Reo Grand.
I own a 2 Zenesis and I can honestly that as far as hybrids go, they are the best IMO. I sold my orion and never messed with the Katana. There are some new ones coming out soon that could trump it though. The 300 co-op is looking promising.
Yea every one will have there own opinion for me the Orion 2.1 is the best I also have had 2 zens a katana and a bunch more and sold them to get more orions
I have three Zenesis APV's. Used to have an Orion 2.1. Never had a Katana. I MUCH prefer the Zenesis to the Orion. The reason I have not pursued the Katana because they aren't being built or supported anymore. I could be wrong about that. Orion is great, but not for the beginner with gennys. Not as easy to set up as the Zenesis. Zen comes ready to vape, with pre-rolled wicks. Strong support community for Zenesis, too. Almost YMMV.
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The iHybrid for me. Though I've never used any other hybrid device lol. After using this thing I don't really feel the need to go searching for more. If there is a better vape I'd like to find it but I'm skeptical.
I'm rather new here, but for functionality, I really like my zmax v2. Dead accurate vv/vw, and I can toss a ton of atties/cartos/clearos on it. I have an iHybrid and a Provari coming, as well as a Cobra and a DID, but for now, I'm loving my zmax and how quickly and easily I can change flavors and dial it in.
I'm also gonna have to vote for the Reo Grand.
Perfect pocket size.
Simple fully mechanical extremely durable design.
All the great performance and benefits of direct dripping without having to actually carry a separate bottle around and drip. since you just push on your supply bottle of liquid contained within the device and wet the atty from below and vape away.
Just swap the bottle inside to quickly change flavors or refill.
18650 battery life.
Perfect pocket size.
Simple fully mechanical extremely durable design.
All the great performance and benefits of direct dripping without having to actually carry a separate bottle around and drip. since you just push on your supply bottle of liquid contained within the device and wet the atty from below and vape away.
Just swap the bottle inside to quickly change flavors or refill.
18650 battery life.
For me right now its the Orion 2.1
I have a zen standard and dont like it as much.
the wick and coil may be easier on the zen but for my EDC the Orion is better.
I just did a vid on it on my site if you wanna see it torn down
I have a zen standard and dont like it as much.
the wick and coil may be easier on the zen but for my EDC the Orion is better.
I just did a vid on it on my site if you wanna see it torn down
For me it's my gp paps with my bliss RTA. The paps is nice and simple, and i can change the tube depending on the battery life I want. And the Bliss is built for dual coils with two airholes on it. It's almost a religious experience vaping dual coils for the first time. 
I have only had 2 GSA's and the first one I made from scratch. it was a little rough but the first few puffs from it tasted so good when it started to not run well I thought I should invest. I bought a Katana v3 and was really impressed with everything about it.. first owner and IMO it was the easiest to learn with. I have to say because of its ability to be insulated it helps fix shorts alot easier.
Generally speaking Genesis hybrids are the only way to fly!!
Generally speaking Genesis hybrids are the only way to fly!!
they are for the most part on par with each other.
I think its really going to be personal for most people.
for me just comparing the zen and orion
Zen finish is excellent from the 316 implant grade SS
Orion finish is good with 303 SS
Zen good for around the house or office
Orion good for in your pocket and out and about
Zen great for wick and coil setup
Orion little harder to get setup
Zen 18650
Orion 18650 or 18350 in 1 unit
Zen kiiller vapor larger air hole
Orion just as good but little different...tighter hole...better draw for me...
that is all I can think of right now.
never used a reo
best thing to do is just keep a eye on the classifieds
I have bought my zen and orion there and both were in like new shape
I think its really going to be personal for most people.
for me just comparing the zen and orion
Zen finish is excellent from the 316 implant grade SS
Orion finish is good with 303 SS
Zen good for around the house or office
Orion good for in your pocket and out and about
Zen great for wick and coil setup
Orion little harder to get setup
Zen 18650
Orion 18650 or 18350 in 1 unit
Zen kiiller vapor larger air hole
Orion just as good but little different...tighter hole...better draw for me...
that is all I can think of right now.
never used a reo
best thing to do is just keep a eye on the classifieds
I have bought my zen and orion there and both were in like new shape
Best bet to obtain one of these is the classifieds which will likely make the seller a nice profit. The iHybrid is, from my research, the best and most available option out right now.
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