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I am going to attempt to summarize this thread in one sentence before it gets closed...
I'm 6'5" and this guy never would have done this to me.

Think about that for awhile.

I know I haven't an issue angrily confronting big burly truck driver men with my 5' 3" body and vagina.
 

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Its seems more and more common that I notice people speaking up/getting offended by things they have no knowledge of, not just vaping.

I must be older than a lot of you, I've been around long enough to be "disapproved" of about 10,000 times in my life. :lol::evil:



Feeding anger and hostility with more anger and hostility solves nothing, and either does developing a persecution complex over it.

If this is the most persecution you'll ever experience in your life, you are about 99.9% better of than other people on the planet who are in absolutely dire situations of real persecution.... :blink:
 

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Just as I was exhaling he strode quickly up on me, went into a fake coughing fit and angrily said "Don't blow that **** in MY face!"

It's getting so I'm afraid to vape in public anymore...

What flea market? Flea Masters? You have some real A $ $ clowns in that part of Florida. They assume the entire state is one big resort and expect to have things their way. The sad part about it is you being picked on... because he felt he could get away with it.

I am 6 foot 3, 220lbs, covered in ink, ride a Harley... what do you wanna bet that I could have been in the same spot doing the same thing and he wouldn't have said a word? I am about the sweetest guy I know, big soft hearted teddy bear. Weak minded people like to set a pecking order. They like to find ways to be superior and control others. Next time you go to the flea market buy a machete or a ninja sword and just carry it around... vape all you want and see how that pecking order changes.

Its sad that when I was skinny as a rail and unthreatening looking how much crap I had to put up with from strangers. Now I have to be extra friendly to keep people from running in the other direction. At the very base level of human kind there are a lot of very cowardly, weak, terrified, ignorant, petty people. I have dealt with people that no amount of diplomacy or kindness, or mature communication seem to work on. They push and push, and take whatever they think they can get away with from those they think will let them get away with it. I learned as a correctional officer that looking and sounding like I am ready to choke someone was a lot easier than actually having to commit to the act itself.

Sorry ranting... mean people suck, they should mind their own business...
 

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I vape openly now in public with my vamo so people will get used to it. I don't look for reactions and usually just do it in areas smoking is allowed, but away from the smokers. I'm a middle aged guy who looks clean cut for the most part (hair is a bit long for me right now).

Baby steps I guess, baby steps. I have friends who tell me that they heard they are not good for you blah blah blah and just tired of explaining what I know cause they are not vapors. Saw a booth at a trade show in Portland today that had nic free juice and small ego like batteries and pulled my vamo out when they asked me if I knew what vaping was. She tried to tell me about her PG free organic liquids and didn't even get into it with her either cause she didn't know what the vamo was lol.

Some people will just never get it I'm afraid to say. Their loss and I really don't feel like chatting with them.
 

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Good story Danbrooks2k. I have a friend, much like you've described yourself and he used to put on the LOOK just for fun and as hilarious as it was to me, it did work on people he had to show his authority if needed. He's the Sheriff I believe at the moment, we worked together in the courts. Tks for the good memories. :)
 

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BTW: Why didn't anyone from the vape booth step up to the plate? I'd think they'd be concerned about their sales? This "guy" was harassing a customer, or possible customer. As the Booth owner, I would have notified security.

Because the salesman was dealing with 8 or more customers at the moment, I was waiting behind them, and the man who did this was lurking in the next booth over watching for an opportunity. After putting on his coughing act with me and being nasty to me he quickly walked away. Hit and run.
 

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BTW - Not to play the Devil's Advocate

But could it have been that the Old Dude in the booth had had a long day of less respectful vaper's blowing clouds and he finally cracked?

Oh come now! That flea market is a HUGE place, and he was purposefully hanging out right next the the vape booth! If he'd had a long day of being vaped at he was looking for it in the first place. There are only two vape booths in that whole huge area at least 500 yards long by 300 yards wide. He CHOSE to be right where he could complain about vapor. Not the first time I've seen that done either.

It wasn't his booth he came at me from, so no, he'd not been put upon by vapers all day, and this blaming of vapers for his nastiness is something I don't care for. He was just a nasty man with a chip on his shoulder looking for someone to take it out on.
 
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Where were all the men at the vape booth, if the lady in question were threatened and intimidated? Were they too busy blowing clouds?

They were all waiting to talk to the vendor in the vape booth and talking with each other when this happened. I think there were 5 men there altogether, and the one that came at me did it so fast and left so quickly I doubt any of them noticed. The incident took no longer than 3 seconds, and the guy walked quickly away.

He knew what he was about, picking out the woman on the edge of the group there while the rest were otherwise occupied. He knew we were all vapers too, which I'm sure was the reason for his rapid departure, and FYI no one was blowing clouds.
 
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I don't agree with most of you, sorry, I just don't.

I don't think we should be vaping in public anywhere where you can't smoke. I think it will lead to a ban in the end if you keep walking around blowing huge clouds in public and offering to 'educate' people. Have you any idea how arrogant that sounds? Look if people want to find out about vaping they will - the same way we all did.

Some of you sound like you walk around with a pre-prepared speech about the virtues of vaping, armed with a list of website addresses and blowing vapour in the hope that someone will be impressed by it just so you can unleash this tirade upon them.

If we want vaping to be accepted by the masses, rather than banned I think we need to be slightly more discrete in public and act like smokers until proven otherwise, e.g. stick to smoking areas at work and everywhere else. I only openly vape at home or in my car. I think for now that's the way to go.

I'd hate to turn into a vaping bore, "Hey honey who did you invite to the dinner party tonight?", "Oh crap not him, he'll bore everyone stupid about vaping and how fking awesome it is". :2c:

:facepalm:
 

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I agree Vaslovik had a difficult time in her original story, if i'd been there I would have leapt to her defence as we all would.

I've tried to convey the idea to people here that we don't make a public nuisance of ourselves because I believe it will damage our chances of winning public opinion. When there's a crucial vote about vaping, it would be great if most of the people present had never had a bad experience with the vaping community.

Vape in public if you want, but be respectful of nonsmokers and their personal space, if we don't all want to be forced into the shadows with the smokers then the time to act responsibly is now. I don't need a law to tell me that there are certain situations I shouldn't vape - but there will soon be such a law if there is a need for one, if you make it happen with bad behaviour.

Out in public you're an ambassador for vaping, if you don't respect a nonsmokers right to breathe clean fresh air you'll do more damage to the cause than good. If you want to be seen fine, let people come over and ask you about it, but keep a polite distance from others. We don't need a law for that, a law for common sense and good manners.

Some of you sound like you'd quite happily vape your way around the asthma ward of your local hospital, simply because it hasn't been banned yet.
 

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@GBX4:

I agree Vaslovik had a difficult time in her original story, if i'd been there I would have leapt to her defence as we all would.

Thank you. :thumbs:

About the reactions of strangers and their attempts to stick their noses into anybody's business - even if something only looks like smoke but is, in fact, not hazardous, please read this:
Rampant Antismoking Signifies Grave Danger
Rampant Antismoking Signifies Grave Danger presents an examination of the antismoking mentality in greater, multidimensional context.
and then you can comment again how it is people vaping in public (in the open air, of all places (!), as in the example the OP told) who are responsible for the nasty behavior of others

if you make it happen with bad behaviour.
That is a canard. Vaping bans happen because the ANTZ push for them.

oh, and I love this:
nonsmokers right to breathe clean fresh air
Where do those people live? In the mountains, away from any civilization? No cars, no pollution?
(but with a woodburning stove, maybe? ;) )

This is what the WHO - the same organization responsible for demonizing smoking and smokers, the same organization who desperately wants to ban vaping, although it is 99% less harmful than smoking - has to say about the "clean, fresh air" that people breathe every day:

Air pollution causes lung cancer, World Health Organization says - latimes.com

..
Do yourself a favor and read up on the subject.
 
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Real simple...

SCHMUCK: "Hey, don't smoke that thing around me! <cough, cough>"

ME: "I'm sorry! Was this water vapor I was exhaling making you cough?"

SCHMUCK: "Damn right it was!"

ME: "What flavor is it?"

SCHMUCK: "Huh!? What are you talking about?"

ME: That water vapor you must have inhaled in large quantities to make you cough like that -- it's flavored. So if you don't know what flavor it was, you must not have actually inhaled any.
 

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I agree Vaslovik had a difficult time in her original story, if i'd been there I would have leapt to her defence as we all would.

I've tried to convey the idea to people here that we don't make a public nuisance of ourselves because I believe it will damage our chances of winning public opinion. When there's a crucial vote about vaping, it would be great if most of the people present had never had a bad experience with the vaping community.

Vape in public if you want, but be respectful of nonsmokers and their personal space, if we don't all want to be forced into the shadows with the smokers then the time to act responsibly is now. I don't need a law to tell me that there are certain situations I shouldn't vape - but there will soon be such a law if there is a need for one, if you make it happen with bad behaviour.

Out in public you're an ambassador for vaping, if you don't respect a nonsmokers right to breathe clean fresh air you'll do more damage to the cause than good. If you want to be seen fine, let people come over and ask you about it, but keep a polite distance from others. We don't need a law for that, a law for common sense and good manners.

Some of you sound like you'd quite happily vape your way around the asthma ward of your local hospital, simply because it hasn't been banned yet.

+1,000,000

The ONLY good thing that has come out of this thread is... Now we have a list of the trouble makers who are going to ruin it for the people who are trying to do this the RIGHT way.

You know who you are... and now... so does everyone else.

To the people in this thread who had the guts to stand up and try to express the right thing to do for the vaping community by being polite and respectful, and not giving vaping a bad name... you should be commended.

To those who expressed their aggression, confrontation, anger, and war monger attitudes in this thread... you should be ashamed of yourselves. But it's obviouse that you don't care anyway. You don't care that you're ruining it for everyone else who is trying to do this the right way. You don't care about any of the people in this community that busted their butts to get this community where it is today. You just don't care.

But atleast everyone knows who you are now.
 
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