What IS their problem????
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Ding, ding, ding! You sir, are correct. Though it has been in use longer than that.
Although some credit Time Magazine for coining it, it's first known usage was in Shakespeare's 'Titus Andronicus'.
Just a 3/4 Nelson? Then you're only 3/4 a man.
I don't know my own strength sometimes, so might break his neck with a full nelson.
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Anyone that expects anyone to not defend themselves when confronted IS actively doing the work of the other side which in vapings case is the ANTZ.
The forces arrayed against vapers would like nothing better than for all of us to just roll over and take it like smokers did. That way they can shove us aside and make us pariahs just like smokers were. It is their goal.
I for one will not be walked over and allow this to happen without a fight. Then again that is how I roll in dealing with any jerk. I will NOT allow myself to be a victim.
Anyone that expects anyone to not defend themselves when confronted IS actively doing the work of the other side which in vapings case is the ANTZ.
The forces arrayed against vapers would like nothing better than for all of us to just roll over and take it like smokers did. That way they can shove us aside and make us pariahs just like smokers were. It is their goal.
I for one will not be walked over and allow this to happen without a fight. Then again that is how I roll in dealing with any jerk. I will NOT allow myself to be a victim.
I could have just listed them so yeah maybe it was a bad phrase.
I have never claimed to speak for anyone but myself. So do NOT put words in my mouth. I have stated how I feel about the topic and about those who think a confronted vaper should just take it and APOLOGIZE. No I am not going to just take it and a darn sure am not going to apologize. Doesn't mean I am going to bop the person being a jerk and confronting me about vaping with my purse either.
off topic
I managed an old theater years ago
found a great really old leader with the marching concessions on it behind the screen -
put it on before "Dirty Dancing" (yes - that long ago) when my new concession leader went to heck - retro movie, why not a retro leader
concession sales doubled for the next 3 weeks -
district manager came in, saw it, asked me where I got it, freaked out when I told him,
put it on the hand crank frame by frame,
72 subliminal images in 1 minute of film
Attempted to make one that would make all woman think I was sexy - (joke)
concession sales dropped to zero - (joke)
also found about 500 original Snow White posters in mint condition - Oh, how I wish we had Ebay back then
Here is an Interesting read...
http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_.../i_just_made_my_bar_vape_free_am_i_a_bad_guy/
(At least it is Interesting to me.)
http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_.../i_just_made_my_bar_vape_free_am_i_a_bad_guy/
(At least it is Interesting to me.)
I disagree. There is a difference between not taking their crap and going off on someone. You sir are deliberately twisting thing. Therefore I am going to exercise my ability to not take your crap.
I like to think of it as a combat fighting tactic, which disarms the enemy, takes away his will and strength to fight and causes relatively little to no injury to either party.
I went to an outdoor concert last week at a local park (one that allowed smoking) had a ANTZ start with the fake coughing waving and yelling at me to get "that s**t away from her children"...I assumed she thought it was an illegal substance and tried to explain what my VTR was and what vapor contained.....she screamed and threw a tantrum you wouldnt believe only leaving to get a cop.....LOL. When the cop came over I explained, showed him my bottle of juice, and pointed out 3 people within 12 feet smoking. 6 people also told him we were seated on our blanket long before she arrived......She was asked to take her kids and leave...we enjoyed the rest of the concert and many vape shop cards were passed out to others wanting to get off the smokes.
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And you will have typed out at least 20 absurdly reductive straw men without ever addressing a single argument respectfully and logically. Cause that's how you roll, based on what I've seen.
I haven't seen anyone in this thread state outright that he advocates openly disrespectful vaping in public. With regard specifically to the OP's situation, I don't recall seeing anyone advocate seriously for physical violence, either. If you disagree and can point to counter-examples, I'd be happy to have a look at them. What I have seen is a lot of concern trolling from the likes of you and bcalvanese (sp?), lamenting that nameless masses of posters in this thread are unkempt savages, unfit for polite company -- which, when you think about it, is pretty darn insulting.
If you are to make an accusation like that, then don't you think you ought at least to address the specific statements that justify your accusation -- to name names, as it were, and hash out any disagreements as adults, and in good faith? If you don't have the time or energy to make that effort, then that's fine, but perhaps in that case it would be more respectful and civilized simply to move on without tossing out your own prejudicial buzzwords in an effort to mock those who use supposedly prejudicial buzzwords.
(The difference between my using the term, "ANTZ," and your using the phrase, "anti-antis," is that the existence, relevance, and political power of the former group is well established, whereas the second term is just a name you made up in a futile effort to lend extra rhetorical weight to your content-free forum arguments.)
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A lady at a fleamarket was approached by an intimidating 'strange-brew', while vaping, in the open, at a vaping booth, for vapers, lets keep it within context shall we.
Reread Myranny's statement in red. It doesn't say what you're pretending it does; here, I'll bold the part you've apparently missed:
"Anyone that expects anyone [else] to not defend themselves when confronted IS actively doing the work of the other side which in vapings case is the ANTZ."
If you think her statement bespeaks a willingness to interfere with, or to prejudge the thoughts or behaviors of other people, then you have it exactly backwards. She objected to other people (like you) telling her that she shouldn't defend herself when unjustly confronted.
And she was spot on. You've managed to take a position where you are, effectively, telling other people how to behave, and turn it on its head.
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A non-answer that proves my point. Thanks.
(Your attempt to get the thread locked: proceeding as planned.)
As do the rest of us. We ask for mutual respect.
However, when others come in and try to SHAME a person for defending themselves, just because they vape, and because it would be wrong to draw attention to the vaping industry if said person defends the self from a real attacker, that is so morbidly wrong it makes my hair stand on end.
nobody, but nobody! has the right to shame another human being like this.
The kick in the under the buck comments were humorous, not serious. However, the comments were torn into as if they were serious. It then became a shame on you if you if you are a Vaper and defend yourself from attackers of any shape or form.
this is so not right. SO not right!
Walking away is a perfectly valid response. In many cases, it's the only valid response. You are quite correct to do as you do, IMO. But I wouldn't judge anyone else for arguing with the guy in the OP (or his ilk), either.
I doubt I'm alone on all of the above. This thread, like so many others, has been turned into a circus of misunderstood or flatly misrepresented positions.
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