What is up with RY4?

[Mahli]

Juiceyfreak please let me know what Dekang says. Like i said, I am wondering what is in my bottles of labeled RY4 that I have as well.

Amy did give me credits for the bottles to use for something else, but sorry Amy, I am concerned about the quality control that is going on with Healthcabin right now and find it hard to believe that they "changed the formlula" without telling anyone.

 

[juicefreak]

Juiceyfreak please let me know what Dekang says. Like i said, I am wondering what is in my bottles of labeled RY4 that I have as well.

Amy did give me credits for the bottles to use for something else, but sorry Amy, I am concerned about the quality control that is going on with Healthcabin right now and find it hard to believe that they "changed the formlula" without telling anyone.

yeah there's nothing at Health Cabin I want juicewise and nothing I need except juice lol. amy was nice and offered replacement if I mail the bottles back, only i don't know how to declare it. I emailed her to ask.

I googled the problem and other forums online had complaints about Ry4 change going back to '09.

According to the news page at yndekang.com

Changning Dekang Biotechnology Co., Ltd.

they fired the CEO of Dekang and Boge just a few months ago (april 30th 2010), and put up the statement i posted earlier on May 10th. HOPEFULLY, they pulled the bad batches and bogus dekang juice that was part of that internal mess.

Here's another thread discussing putrid Dekang on ECF last dec.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-liquid-reviews/45519-dekang-juices-3.html

The bottles with the little clear circle stickers put on the bottle label, rather than printed label with expiration, flavor and strength are the suspicious ones that taste nothing like normal Dekang Ry4 that we all love, and some have flushed saying the chemical taste was horrid.

Those type of bottles are the ones that Amy has for sale that I bought (in the pictures I posted)

sux. I can't make Ry4 and at this point i'm tired of trying new vendors to get the same juice with a different company label.

if anyone knows how to Ry4 up Ry4 please help! I've tried marshmallow, caramel, cheesecake (close!) and maple. not bad but not Ry4. Added Chocolate.. that helped. Even Plum - i drop. Not bad, but not my Ry4 mix. Missing link in there somewhere

if vendors are getting bad juice they need to contact their suppliers and find out. I emailed 3 different emails at yndekang and boge and have yet to hear back. I've done live chats with them before at their site and follow up emails that they'd promise were non-existant. i don't know what's going on with them, but AMY you are in China and they do have a phone # that you can call and find out for us:

it's beyond our ability as customers to resolve it.

 

[Xanax]

Let me know how this turns out. I have a bottle of RY4 that is tan in color but tastes like chemicals and I'm positive it's dekang.

 

[newsunshine]

I would like a refund please. How could i possibly trust that your juice is actually from Dekang when there is not one word on the label with the company name, expiration/manufacturer date code? It would be a waste of my time to get replacement bottles of 'unknown' juice.

here are the bottles I got, (along with a universal usb charger that doesn't work)

Unknown cLEAR liquid:

No Dekang name on the label - just pixelated dots. ??

where is the manufacturer date code? expiration code?

I have emailed yndekang to ask them if your juice is in fact dekang. I would like to know what i am inhaling into my lungs after Dekang Corporate put up this notice in May. (the date you say they changed their juice)

is the OLD Ry4 rich in caramel no more?

Thank you for your asking.

I am sorry that all Dekang ejuice have no labels with Dekang name on them, or manufacturer date, or expiration code now. but there is YNDK, which is a shorten form of Yun Nan Dekang, on the caps of 10ml ejuice, 20ml ejuice and 30ml ejuice as well.

I am glad that you are willing to delve into the problem and sending emails to Dekang directly.

Please let us know what they will reply to you.

You are great at doing that. Thanks a lot!

 

[newsunshine]

Juiceyfreak please let me know what Dekang says. Like i said, I am wondering what is in my bottles of labeled RY4 that I have as well.

Amy did give me credits for the bottles to use for something else, but sorry Amy, I am concerned about the quality control that is going on with Healthcabin right now and find it hard to believe that they "changed the formlula" without telling anyone.

Mahli, it is totally reasonable that you are concerned about the quality control at Health Cabin.

I am sorry that we could not notice the change of RY4' formula until people reported the problem to us and we talked with the problem with Dekang. we were slow because we have been doing businss with them for long and we trust them.

we are very surprised and unhappy that they did not inform us of changing the formula until we asked their explanation about the problem with RY4.

Thank you for your telling us what you are concerned. so that we will know how to improve our service and products.

Thanks again!

 

[Mr.Mad]

hello, I just wanted to say thank you for the replacement RY4 as it was absolutely delicious.. Great Flavor and massive vapor.. The juice was not for me but my mom that I recentlly got to start using the PV... The 36mg nic is absolutely perfect and she has not smoked a cig since using the RY4 I gave her... Like I said.. You are the real deal as with dealing with customers and like I said before above.. Thank You Again.. A very satisified customer..

don

 

[juicefreak]

hello, I just wanted to say thank you for the replacement RY4 as it was absolutely delicious.. Great Flavor and massive vapor.. The juice was not for me but my mom that I recentlly got to start using the PV... The 36mg nic is absolutely perfect and she has not smoked a cig since using the RY4 I gave her... Like I said.. You are the real deal as with dealing with customers and like I said before above.. Thank You Again.. A very satisified customer..

don

I agree 1000% don. I got replacement bottles today of the 36mg Ry4. Thank you amy! omg that's the real stuff! so ppl don't get confused, just quit selling the dekang Ry4 lol.

THIS is the good stuff:

36mg HC E-juice/E-Liquid(20 flavors) [HC Ejuice] - $3.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail

Nice mix of vg in there and the TH still remains. and the bottles are FULL to the brim, unlike many other suppliers that have odd filling methods

PG baseG(Propylene Glycol ) 75% VG(Vegetable Glycerin ) 25%

Great Ry4 flavor and vapor. I will definitely be ordering from you again. I just hope they don't change the recipe on you where ever you are getting your custom HC juice from.

thx amy. this is the real stuff. tastes almost like Taboo. very nice. I was SO grateful to smell the good Ry4 again. Once smelled you never forget that wonderful smell/taste.

 

[newsunshine]

hello, I just wanted to say thank you for the replacement RY4 as it was absolutely delicious.. Great Flavor and massive vapor.. The juice was not for me but my mom that I recentlly got to start using the PV... The 36mg nic is absolutely perfect and she has not smoked a cig since using the RY4 I gave her... Like I said.. You are the real deal as with dealing with customers and like I said before above.. Thank You Again.. A very satisified customer..

don

I agree 1000% don. I got replacement bottles today of the 36mg Ry4. Thank you amy! omg that's the real stuff! so ppl don't get confused, just quit selling the dekang Ry4 lol.

THIS is the good stuff:

36mg HC E-juice/E-Liquid(20 flavors) [HC Ejuice] - $3.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail

Nice mix of vg in there and the TH still remains. and the bottles are FULL to the brim, unlike many other suppliers that have odd filling methods



Great Ry4 flavor and vapor. I will definitely be ordering from you again. I just hope they don't change the recipe on you where ever you are getting your custom HC juice from.

thx amy. this is the real stuff. tastes almost like Taboo. very nice. I was SO grateful to smell the good Ry4 again. Once smelled you never forget that wonderful smell/taste.

I am so glad that both of you like our RY4. it matters for us!

thank you soooo much!

 

[bliynd]

hey guys... a bit off topic but I ordered Dekang RY4 from happysmokes.com and this is what it looked like.... nothing like your bottle and it has two round stickers showing the flavor and strength... is it dekang?

****EDIT****
i forgot to mention, this is the first time i've tried ry4 and it tastes ok to me?

 

[karmatized]

thats the SLB version of the dekang ry4

 

[newsunshine]

thats the SLB version of the dekang ry4

Thank you for your answer.

 

[karmatized]

Its not too bad. actually my bad, i was doing a search and didn't notice this was your forum health. Not trying to step on your toes.

 

[bliynd]

cool, thanks happysmokes, not knockin on you or anything, I was just curious, but I do really like it... it kind of reminds me of dunkin donuts coffe coolata with coffe and vanilla bean mixed, its super yummy.... will be ordering some more soon

 

[psych0path]

Whuch if you guys have tried both?

Im wondering which one tastes close to the old ry4. Is it HC's version or Dekang version?

Tia


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[Mr.Mad]

get the health cabin for sure...

 

[juicefreak]

definitely it's the HC Ry4 NOT dekang. amy's bottles are filled to the brim and the 36mg is definitely 36mg. i gave some to my neighbor who's trying to quit cigs.

comes in 18mg:

18mg HC E-juice/E-Liquid(21 flavors) [HC Ejuice] - $3.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail

or 36mg:

36mg HC E-juice/E-Liquid(21 flavors) [HC Ejuice] - $3.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail


i just ordered more and am so grateful to find it. was afraid i'd never find it again

 

[psych0path]

Does it taste like tge RY4 from a year ago?


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[Mr.Mad]

I tasted the dekang before the change and it was delicious and after the change it was nasty.... Health Cabin taste like the old stuff in my opinion so I would say yes it taste like the old dekang.. Heath Cabin RY4 taste great... My mom loves it...

I just ordered 2 110ml bottles of the Ruyan RY4. Its great.

 

[misterD]

if i get the flavor to add my own nic is it the same thing?

 

[jboze]

If you're talking about the flavorings that HC sells on their site, then no. It's just a concentrated flavoring. You add it to unflavored Nic juice or pure PG/VG if you want 0 Nic stuff.