What makes the Provari so good?

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I don't own a provari, but the one thing that keeps me from purchasing one is the screen. I think in this day and age, especially for a high-end mod, I would expect an intelligently laid out OLED screen. I also prefer a three button setup.
There's a reason Provape uses that LED screen. It is the most durable screen available on the market. The Provari was designed to be one of the most durable mods on the market, and that has proven to be the case. OLED screens are not as durable comparatively, and are not water/juice-proof. The Provari is for the most part.

The single button interface is also more durable than a three button interface. Again, this has been proven in real life.

A Provari is not for everyone. Find something that has the features you want.
 
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It's good to have so many choices and starting points in the market. I still have my first run ProVari V1 and it still works perfectly and looks excellent even with being used out in the wild. I've considered having it updated to a V2 but kind of want to see how long it will last original. 4 years from now wonder how many other vv/vw mods will still be solid.
 

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What makes a Provari so good? lmao, it's not what, it's who. Who makes the Provari so good? Provape makes the Provari so good, that's who.

I don't own a provari, but the one thing that keeps me from purchasing one is the screen. I think in this day and age, especially for a high-end mod, I would expect an intelligently laid out OLED screen. I also prefer a three button setup.

that makes me laugh. The menu of any device is used for adjusting ones vape, checking ohms, volts left in battery and error codes. Once you have an atomizer or juice dialed in, how often do you use the menu screen. On all my devices, once set up I just push the button and vape. Have several with out any screen menu at all, dial in to taste or max output and vape. I love the one button Provari. And makes it easy for me to know which button I need to push to vape with. The end results is what I am after and that is the quality of the vape.
 
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A comparably good device? The Vamo is made of thin, light weight aluminum or very thin stainless steel, depending on which model version you purchase. The Provari is made of thick as a brick stainless steel. Also, the Provari's menu is less prone to problems in comparison to OLED screens. And 3 buttons is three times the mechanical failure rate of a one button design mod. & I would assume that the warehouse employees are making at least 15 to 20 dollars an hour. It can't be a particularly large operation and for them to have only a handful of employees would mean the employees would be highly specialized & risking their future on manufacturing a single device rather than working in a production warehouse learning tons of new things on the job. For this reason, I would think that the employees are being compensated highly in return for offering their time without building their repetoirs. On the other hand, the oil changers at PepBoys make 9.75 an hour and they aren't increasing their expertise either. So who knows. Its a screwed up workforce we're living in today. Either way,. the Provari isn't the same quality of the vamo. I've already pointed out why. If the Vamo were the same quality as the Provari, the people that manufacture the Vamo woudn't be selling them whole-sale for 20 dollars a piece. A 6 by 4 sheet of plywood from home depot costs 30 bucks right now. A sheet of pressed wood pulp... and they're selling vamos for the same price. That just screams quality control.

Yes it is a comparitively good device. I have not seen one in aluminum only stainless steel. My Vamo feels exactly the same as the provari and I actually prefer it more because of the convenience of those extra buttons. It makes in real easy to check battery voltage and ohm and change to vw setting instead of vv. A little harder to go to vw with prov....oh wait....I can't go to vw with my provari.

eh hem...... Another word about the length on the Vamo vs the Provari. The Vamo is close to the same lenth as the Provari in 18350 mode vs provari's 18490 mode, and in the 18650 mode the Vamo is around the same lenth as the prov....oh wait...I have to go buy extra stuff to make the provari 18650.......Anyway, like I was saying, The Vamo, although maybe not quite asthetically pleasing as the Provari, it is a very solid, well made device. Not to say the Provari isn't, just comparing the two makes one wonder why I spent so much on a VV device with less options.

To sum up.....Two very good devices. Just depends on how much you want to spend.

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What makes a Provari so good? lmao, it's not what, it's who. Who makes the Provari so good? Provape makes the Provari so good, that's who.



that makes me laugh. The menu of any device is used for adjusting ones vape, checking ohms, volts left in battery and error codes. Once you have an atomizer or juice dialed in, how often do you use the menu screen. On all my devices, once set up I just push the button and vape. Have several with out any screen menu at all, dial in to taste or max output and vape. I love the one button Provari. And makes it easy for me to know which button I need to push to vape with. The end results is what I am after and that is the quality of the vape.

I want Facebook on it.
 

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Ok... Provari = I-phone, Vamo = Android. :)

Heh, I know there are some differences in the specifications, but sometimes nubmers say one thing, but day to day usage says another. I know the Vamo is a good device, and it's my daily vape mod. However, it's not without it's flaws. The buttons are too easily pressed, and sometimes I will find the wattage has changed when I didn't know it has. These things aren't really addressed on most of the other posts. I was looking for a good "daily usage" answer. What are the bad things about the provari? what have you noticed that could've been changed? does it feel more solid in your hand Vs. a Vamo..... etc.

Lol, please don't make that comparison
 

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Well, for build quality, I can attest to the Vamo being at least sufficient. I have dropped my Vamo V3 several times on to concrete and it survives (albeit a bit dinged). only concern was the tube is not glued on, but just pressed on. I... <gasp> took a mallet with a wooden block and hammered the sucker straight again, and it is just as good. (had to get a new glass tube for the AGA though).

Brass threading on the Vamo's 510 might be a concern, but I am overly cautious with anything screwed in anyways (cross threading is one of my pet peeves). I cannot attest to the QC of the Vamo, since both of mine have been good straight out of the box with minimal complaints (the V3 stainless had a shaving on the battery cap connector).

Price is a concern. from FT, I get the Vamos super cheap (albeit one month later). Time is not an issue, but price sure is. Just going by price alone, I'd have to warrant the extra $150 for the provari. Even if it is a better device and better build, a %600 higher price is a tough hurtle to leap over. I could almost have a different Vamo per day, or use one Provari throughout the week.

As far as the voltage regulation, I can't attest to a better vape quality since I haven't tried. I've rarely heard "the rattlesnake" sound. I think it only comes when the battery is low. the better vaping at lower battery power is both a good thing and a bad thing. I do notice when the battery gets to 3.5v, the vapor production is quite a bit less, but to me, that's an indication that my battery is getting low. I would imagine that is what people who use mech mods base their battery level on.

thickness of metal, again, a plus and a minus. thicker metal makes the mod heavier. If the vamo had thick metal, it'd be a beast to hold. The Provari, I would imagine, would be a similar weight, since it's a shorter mod, but with thicker metal.

The fact that it's made in the USA is definitely a plus when it comes to the Provari. Although I'd like to buy from the US when possible, in most cases, price point usually directs my purchasing decision. To me, that's a problem with our US mentality that's a more philosophical debate not really suitable for this forum. China can produce something much cheaper because of labor costs.. It's really surprised me that they haven't made a Provari clone with comparable electronics.

I guess in the long run, if you take the price out of the equation, the provari is a better device. But if you take "bang for your buck" into consideration, then the Vamo wins. Both have their shortcomings.
 

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Quite simply, quality of construction and customer service. I own 2 Innokin MVP v2's, a VTR and a Provari. The difference in fit and finish is readily apparent. Hold each one, take a vape, change some settings, you'll see what all the fuss is about.

There's no way the Provari is built as tough as the VTR. It's damn near a solid brick of stainless (or at least feels like it). If the Terminator was to buy a mod, that would be the one he would have. ;)
 

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There's a reason Provape uses that LED screen. It is the most durable screen available on the market. They provari was designed to be one of the most durable mods on the market, and that has proven to be the case. OLED screens are not as durable comparatively, and are not water/juice-proof. The Provari is for the most part.

The single button interface is also more durable than a three button interface. Again, this has been proven in real life.

A Provari is not for everyone. Find something that has the features you want.


Just to be fair... I had to send my Provari back after about 10 days due to the LED screen failing. Hoping to get it back soon, so I can get a real test in. But when it was working, it was pretty great.
 

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Just to be fair... I had to send my Provari back after about 10 days due to the LED screen failing. Hoping to get it back soon, so I can get a real test in. But when it was working, it was pretty great.

Isn't it great when you can actually get your stuff repaired? My VTR has the "contact wheel" issue and resistance reading is all over the place. I asked around (including the store who I bought it from) and all I got was "umm.." and blank stare. Now I can only use VV.
Again the question. Would I buy another VTR? Hell no.
 

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Just to be fair... I had to send my Provari back after about 10 days due to the LED screen failing. Hoping to get it back soon, so I can get a real test in. But when it was working, it was pretty great.

As with most electronics, they either fail quickly or last for years. Sorry you got the fumble on the dice roll. :(

I do like the LED over OLED (I have red on my polished Provari and blue on my satin black). I like the red on the polished because it reminds me of a rocket ship out of old sci-fi and I have a fondness for 7-segment LEDs from my couple of years of electronics engineering many years ago. Being a child of the 70's I grew up with red LEDs too. The blue is okay and looks good with the black but isn't nearly as bright and doesn't really pop.

Now if only we could get a nixie tube display, I would be ALL OVER that. :)
 

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Isn't it great when you can actually get your stuff repaired? My VTR has the "contact wheel" issue and resistance reading is all over the place. I asked around (including the store who I bought it from) and all I got was "umm.." and blank stare. Now I can only use VV.
Again the question. Would I buy another VTR? Hell no.
Hey...
You seem to have similar problems as do I...
My VTR wheel is not working 100%
What is this Device You speak of...Provari?....
 

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Except in my opinion the Android kicks the Iphone in the rear, all the way across the field. it literally comes down to the user who is using the product. i've never used one but i'm sure if i did i would love to get my hands on 1.

My phone and tablet would like to add their +2 likes to this post as well. :)

I tried to get the 'vapers toolbox' app for someone the other day who had an i-phone. I was looking and looking and all these dumb unrelated games kept popping on the market... nothing useful. NO SOUP FOR YOU!

No eliquidmakr either!

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Not sure why people limit themselves - I have an Android tablet (Cyanogenmod'd Nook HD+), an iPhone 5, an iPad 1, an AMD Windows desktop, and a Macbook Air (what runs Windows 7 almost exclusively). They all have their place. I don't want the Android OS on my phone, but it's fine on the tablet. I am not going to do any serious gaming on the 11" Macbook Air, but I can't stick my gaming rig in my bag and take off.

We also have an Xbox 360, a PS3, and a Wii... and when it comes time to buy new consoles we'll buy them all instead of being slavishly devoted to one platform only.

Seriously people, expand your horizons a little. :)
 

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I agree. While I adamantly defend the Provari in these types of threads, I am one for variety. When I was 18-19 years old, I used to come to ECF and bash the Provari like it was my job. Like it was my hobby. All I did for hours was seek out threads where people were defending the Provari and I'd list my arguments for why spending less could get you more. But now I own a Provari and I'm on the other side of the fence. I'm older now, and I have more experience. Now I understand cost to quality. Specifically in small machined goods.

While I love my Provari, heres the deal for me: If something expensive in my Provari broke, I'd probably save up the 50 bucks to get it fixed. Thats a given for me. It'd take me a month or two, but I'd get the money and fix my favorite VV mod. If I put my Provari down at Walmart and lost it.... Would I buy another Provari? At this time in my life, the answer is probably no. Not because I wouldn't want another Provari, but because I couldn't afford it. I'd most likely buy a Zmax Telescopic. & I'd probably be happy with the Zmax, and I'd probably start saving for a new Provari once I had the Zmax already. But its my opinion that the Provari & it's accessories are a bit overpriced, especially for those in similar financial situations to my own. People living under the poverty line and people living in the lower middle class... We can't afford to spend $170 + $20 for extension tube + $20 for a pair of batteries + Juice for the week/month + a new Protank or atty or 5 pack of cartos + a Cartotank. Thats never going to be ok for me. lol. If my house burnt down tomorrow I'd probably be on Zainy looking for an original lavatube for 20 bucks and a $5.99 rebuildable atomizer. Then again, if my house were to burn down, I'd probably run through the flames to grab my Provari. :p
 
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Hey...
You seem to have similar problems as do I...
My VTR wheel is not working 100%
What is this Device You speak of...Provari?....

Apparently the first batch of VTR with rotating wheel has contact issue. This causes resistance reading to fluctuate and throw the wattage off. Innokin changed the design almost immediately to fixed wheel but they aren't exchanging the faulty initial batch. Now I am stuck with $110 APV that is only few months old and has a faulty design.

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There's no way the Provari is built as tough as the VTR. It's damn near a solid brick of stainless (or at least feels like it). If the Terminator was to buy a mod, that would be the one he would have. ;)

"Parts - Machined right here in Monroe, WA. We use US-made stainless steel bar stock to produce the tubes, top caps, bottom caps, contact pins, etc. Everything is done on our machines locally. No outsourcing." -- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/289525-provari-made-usa.html
 
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