In the short time I've been looking into e-cigs, I have seen many posts saying to stay away from Smoking Everywhere, but they haven't said exactly why. Do you know what the problem is?
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In the short time I've been looking into e-cigs, I have seen many posts saying to stay away from Smoking Everywhere, but they haven't said exactly why. Do you know what the problem is?
The $150 price tag on a starter kit.
Like I said, nobody believed that nonsense about a longer warranty being worth money till Ludo said something about Janty's warranty and the fanboys started making an issue of it.
In case you have not figured it out, I am trying to tell you not to gauge your purchase on the warranty. You already lost $10 by waiting because two days ago the 510 was $10 cheaper at nico-stix but you missed the sale because someone made you think it was more worthwhile to wait for something from Janty.
The warranty is an incidental feature IMHO, not the reason to make a purchase. If the warranty was a real issue then Smoking Everywhere would be the most popular brand going since they have the strongest warranty in the business.
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eastmall is a reputable place to buy from IMHO. The downside is that it will take longer for the shipping than other places that are based in the USA. I currently have a $150 order with eastmall that was placed on the 19th and shipped on the 20th. Thisis my first order with them but I am confident in their reliability based on the many comments I have read on these forums about eastmall.
DW is correct that Smoking Everywhere(SE) has an excellent warranty. I think a lot of the dissatisfaction expressed by many folks on this forum is not just about the price, but it's also about the marketing. There are many of us who feel that it's claims like those made by SE that have caused much of the current difficulty with the FDA. But that's a rant for another thread.
Now, I could be wrong, but my recollection was that the SE kits came with one atomizer. If that's correct, then part of the problem is that while you might have an excellent warranty, you really need a second atomizer to cover you while you wait on the replacement. Also, there were a lot of reports of people who placed warranty claims but there wasn't the stock to back it up. But to be fair, Janty had a similar problem awhile back . . . it's sometimes hard to keep stuff in stock.
Back to the price . . . I do think a good warranty is worth something, but I think there were lots of folks who felt that the price tag of the SE e-cigs was so high and the hassles some experienced in getting replacements was significant enough that it wasn't worth the extra money. That's a matter of personal opinion.
For me, I've personally had good dealings with Janty, and the higher cost of their products is worth it . . . FOR ME . . . given the warranty. Yes, I've had to wait on replacement parts, but the Dura-C comes with a spare non-warrantied atomizer so that if you run into trouble with your warrantied atomizer, you have a backup while you wait for your replacement.
I think the talk of the warranty started because the OP was looking at 2 choices:
1) Ordering from China and waiting about 10 days to receive unit.
2) Ordering from Janty and taking the same amount of time to get the unit because of product availability
Given those 2 choices I recommended ordering from Janty because the warranty is better.
OTOH, I have recommended ordering the 29.99 901 from e-cig-mart a lot because it offers an inexpensive intro to ecigs and the warranty on that unit is only 7 or 14 days.
1) Ordering from China and waiting about 10 days to receive unit.
2) Ordering from Janty and taking the same amount of time to get the unit because of product availability
Given those 2 choices I recommended ordering from Janty because the warranty is better.
OTOH, I have recommended ordering the 29.99 901 from e-cig-mart a lot because it offers an inexpensive intro to ecigs and the warranty on that unit is only 7 or 14 days.
Well, if you're paying $150 for a kit from SE, you're already paying in advance for any and all replacement parts that could go bad, whether they actually end up going bad or not. Better to buy a kit elsewhere and take a chance on replacement parts. However, if the difference between a 3/6 month warranty form Janty and a 14-day warranty from ElectroNicStix is only $4, as is the case, then far better to buy from Janty. I'm holding off for now, because I really would prefer buying from Janty.
As I mentioned in a previous post (I'm quoting it here): "I bought a cheap e-cig ($29.99) at my local smoke shop... only came with ONE battery, 5 carts that spit more liquid in my mouth than on the atomizer, but even so I can tell this will get me off analogs for good. BTW it's called ENVY..." Well, I went to their website ( Home ) and I was very surprised to see that they offer a 1 year warranty. Only problem is, you have to have the purchase receipt, and you only find that out if you go to their website. But still, pretty impressive for a $29.99 starter kit.
As I mentioned in a previous post (I'm quoting it here): "I bought a cheap e-cig ($29.99) at my local smoke shop... only came with ONE battery, 5 carts that spit more liquid in my mouth than on the atomizer, but even so I can tell this will get me off analogs for good. BTW it's called ENVY..." Well, I went to their website ( Home ) and I was very surprised to see that they offer a 1 year warranty. Only problem is, you have to have the purchase receipt, and you only find that out if you go to their website. But still, pretty impressive for a $29.99 starter kit.
As per size ref to regular cig... it's generally the "bigger the better" for ecig batteries. Atomizer/cart performances do all vary, but the battery itself, you really can't fool yourself with.
Thus, once you drop the requirement that the size has to be exactly a cig size... that opens up a lot of options for you. However, I'd say a good old dependable 901 or Janty Dura C/Joye 510 might suit you better - as it does have traditional cig look, but somewhat longer and fatter. If you drop LED, then it will open up whole new chapter too - as it can introduce to you to the world of manual switches. (Although there are some with manual and LED, if I'm not mistaken).
My smallest one was actually RN4081 - mostly known as Npro or SE Gold. It was small enough that was comparable to actual cigarette, and asides small tiny cartridge capacity, it could produce nice amount of vapor and good throat hits - but the battery was the problem for me. I ended up using only the USB Passthroughs for that model, until I switched to my Screwdriver.
However even with those smaller sizes.. I wasn't really holding it between my 2 fingers. It's substantially heavier, and it just felt strange. So I ended up using 2-3 finger ones like one smoking a joint or something. Longer ones like 901, was no different, and even longer ones like 801, I was actually holding it with my palm, just like what I'm doing with my Screwdriver.
But if you do think it's really important... see getting 2 units. 1 super mini like RN4081, and another little bigger like 901 or 510. It's good to have at least 2 working units, as one might go down and you have to resort to the other until the spare parts do arrive.
I had 3 - which was a bit of overkill for me. I had RN4081, 901, and 801. RN4081 and 801, I also had USB pass throughs connected with Kensington Power Pack. I sold them out and bought a single Screwdriver... and I'm getting a USB Pass Through from puresmoker for 901 when it's available for my back up.
Thus, once you drop the requirement that the size has to be exactly a cig size... that opens up a lot of options for you. However, I'd say a good old dependable 901 or Janty Dura C/Joye 510 might suit you better - as it does have traditional cig look, but somewhat longer and fatter. If you drop LED, then it will open up whole new chapter too - as it can introduce to you to the world of manual switches. (Although there are some with manual and LED, if I'm not mistaken).
My smallest one was actually RN4081 - mostly known as Npro or SE Gold. It was small enough that was comparable to actual cigarette, and asides small tiny cartridge capacity, it could produce nice amount of vapor and good throat hits - but the battery was the problem for me. I ended up using only the USB Passthroughs for that model, until I switched to my Screwdriver.
However even with those smaller sizes.. I wasn't really holding it between my 2 fingers. It's substantially heavier, and it just felt strange. So I ended up using 2-3 finger ones like one smoking a joint or something. Longer ones like 901, was no different, and even longer ones like 801, I was actually holding it with my palm, just like what I'm doing with my Screwdriver.
But if you do think it's really important... see getting 2 units. 1 super mini like RN4081, and another little bigger like 901 or 510. It's good to have at least 2 working units, as one might go down and you have to resort to the other until the spare parts do arrive.
I had 3 - which was a bit of overkill for me. I had RN4081, 901, and 801. RN4081 and 801, I also had USB pass throughs connected with Kensington Power Pack. I sold them out and bought a single Screwdriver... and I'm getting a USB Pass Through from puresmoker for 901 when it's available for my back up.
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