Personally I take the word of the Royal College of Physicians, it's not like they've been around for 500 years and know a thing or two
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Unless a valid problem is found I'll always believe that vaping is safer than smoking. As R055co posted, the Royal College of Physicians thoroughly tested vaping and found it to be 95% safer than smoking. I'll take the 5% risk over the 95% risk I had for the 40 years I smoked.
Not the long after I started vaping and quit smoking I began to notice that I could walk up a hill and not be out of breath. That led to the purchase of an elliptical exercise bike that I've ridden 30 minutes 4 to 5 days a week at 80% resistance for about 5 years now. Soon after I started that I added a weight regime and started doing 100 reps with medium weight. I'm in better shape than I was when I retired, mostly due to no cigarettes and a lot of vaping.
Not the long after I started vaping and quit smoking I began to notice that I could walk up a hill and not be out of breath. That led to the purchase of an elliptical exercise bike that I've ridden 30 minutes 4 to 5 days a week at 80% resistance for about 5 years now. Soon after I started that I added a weight regime and started doing 100 reps with medium weight. I'm in better shape than I was when I retired, mostly due to no cigarettes and a lot of vaping.
Me, too! When I smoked, I would get acute bronchitis 3-4 times a year. For that, I took antibiotics and sometimes Kenalog shots. I haven't been sick EVEN ONE DAY since I switched to vaping--a little over 3 years now.
I don't mean to say that vaping might not have some drawbacks in the future, and I'm not advocating vaping for the general population at large (those who never smoked). But compared to smoking, OH YEAH!!!! At least for me...
I agree entirely, all I'm suggesting in my humble opinion is that there will be side effects from vaping, certainly nothing to make want to quit vaping however.Personally I take the word of the Royal College of Physicians, it's not like they've been around for 500 years and know a thing or two
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In Michael Mosley's documentary they clearly stated that there was cellular damage of the lungs and throat off memory. This doco was unbiased i believe, that said sitting at the traffic lights with the window open is far more catastrophic for your health.
Is vaping 95% healthier than smoking, probably. Although not vaping or smoking is probably the best option. Remember the catch phrase "Harm Reduction" not harm removal.
Now i need to go build a few coils and mix some fresh juice.[emoji4]
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Yes they're being cautious, they threw in the 5% for the unknown factors. Currently there is no peer reviewed legitimate science that shows vaping is harmful, none. The current science shows that vaping is as harmful as breathing air.
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OK, I am not a troll and I have no agenda. I am a former smoker, 1,5 pack/day, West Silver. I stopped smoking with vaping 8 months ago. My threads and topics in my threads are the topics which affects me the most when I reading about vaping. I suppose that I still have a mindset of a smoker which lives in a denial that smoking can't badly affect him. I caught myself numerous times that I want to find evidence that smoking is better than vaping but consiously I know that this is not possible... I am diagnosed with depression and anxiety and all anti-vaping proganda (hipothetical dangers of vaping) affects me a lot... I am very sorry that you think I am a troll but I am really not... I am just paranoid I guess...
You can ask Chris Price about me, I am in contact with him on Quora. His nickname on this forum is rolygate I think...
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If one thinks tobacco cigarettes being introduced today would be stopped by the Fed. Gov., why don't they stop what has become legal in several states even though still illegal under Fed. law?
These newly made legal cigarettes containing leaf wrapped in paper but no filter and fired up to be smoked and inhaled are touted to be better for you that your favorite adult beverage........even though smoke and all its carcinogens are inhaled into your lungs! Why in the heck aren't the ANTZ fighting against them? Why aren't the Feds closing these federally illegal shops?
These newly made legal cigarettes containing leaf wrapped in paper but no filter and fired up to be smoked and inhaled are touted to be better for you that your favorite adult beverage........even though smoke and all its carcinogens are inhaled into your lungs! Why in the heck aren't the ANTZ fighting against them? Why aren't the Feds closing these federally illegal shops?
Thank you for letting us know where you are coming from. You would probably understand why some might think there is an agenda if you had been on this forum for as long as some of us have been. We have seen so many folks with an agenda. They were the ones that we could truthfully call ANTZ. the titles to most of your threads do tend to feed the ANTZ. All they have to do is google, see the thread title and say, see even they think this vaping thing is bad.OK, I am not a troll and I have no agenda. I am a former smoker, 1,5 pack/day, West Silver. I stopped smoking with vaping 8 months ago. My threads and topics in my threads are the topics which affects me the most when I reading about vaping. I suppose that I still have a mindset of a smoker which lives in a denial that smoking can't badly affect him. I caught myself numerous times that I want to find evidence that smoking is better than vaping but consiously I know that this is not possible... I am diagnosed with depression and anxiety and all anti-vaping proganda (hipothetical dangers of vaping) affects me a lot... I am very sorry that you think I am a troll but I am really not... I am just paranoid I guess...
You can ask Chris Price about me, I am in contact with him on Quora. His nickname on this forum is rolygate I think...
One, the lobbyists on that side have been working for decades to get to where they are today, and they're still fighting. Two, the average user smokes a lot less than the average smoker, think 1-2 cigarettes worth a day, if that. Three, given number two, the benefits possibly outweigh the risks.
Just some thoughts.
It's understandable. Some of us forget what it's like to be new to this. You should be able to trust the FDA, the CDC, the ALA, the AMS, etc. If vaping is so much better than smoking, the powers that be should be spreading the word on commercial airtime as much as possible right? I mean, they told us for decades that they want us to quit smoking, and here's this thing that is almost too good to be true, people switch from smoking to vaping, and most never look back. So why aren't they spreading the word as zealously as we are? There MUST be something wrong with vaping right? Or, as many of us have come to realize, there is something wrong with the system.OK, I am not a troll and I have no agenda. I am a former smoker, 1,5 pack/day, West Silver. I stopped smoking with vaping 8 months ago. My threads and topics in my threads are the topics which affects me the most when I reading about vaping. I suppose that I still have a mindset of a smoker which lives in a denial that smoking can't badly affect him. I caught myself numerous times that I want to find evidence that smoking is better than vaping but consiously I know that this is not possible... I am diagnosed with depression and anxiety and all anti-vaping proganda (hipothetical dangers of vaping) affects me a lot... I am very sorry that you think I am a troll but I am really not... I am just paranoid I guess...
You can ask Chris Price about me, I am in contact with him on Quora. His nickname on this forum is rolygate I think...
The system is losing crazy amounts of money to people switching to vaping and not smoking cigarettes.
( not paying the taxes on cigarettes, getting healthier and not having to take medications to get well...etc...)
They don't know how to handle that we control our own methods to not smoke...so they want to "regulate" it out of our hands.
Exactly that. Why they don't like vaping? What is wrong with vaping? Something must be wrong with vaping if all that national and health organisations are against it. They constantly repeating that we don't know enough about vaping and we don't have long-term studies... In my country (Slovenia - EU) smokers are attacking vapers because we are spreading all of those chemicals from VP's around them and killing them. All of those cancer-causing flavours (aromas) and liquids, exploding batteries and so on. Meanwhile they are smoking perfectly natural product which is not as dangerous as told and is been used for centuries... And they see on television that vapour from e-cigarettes is extremly toxic and dangerous. With smoker mindset and with all of these informations from National Institute for Public Health and from media that must be true. Right?
Well, if you want to get into the why, I'll warn you upfront, it's going to sound like a bunch of conspiracy theories.
I'll deal with USA since that's where I'm from, and many other countries look to us to take the lead on these types of things. Tobacco is big money, but the tobacco companies are only a fraction of that big money. In California, a pack of cigarettes is roughly $5. About $1 goes to the federal excise tax on cigarettes, and $1 goes to the state tax. So for every $5 pack sold, the federal government gets $1 and the state gets $1. On top of that are what are called Master Settlement Agreements, money the tobacco companies agreed to pay, based on cigarette sales, in exchange for an end to lawsuits from individual smokers. In 2015 California received $721,702,269.58, from 1999-2015 California received $13,376,650,346.70. Thats 13 BILLION dollars. Now, add to that, some states like California decided that they wanted money faster so they sold bonds on future MSA payments. What that means is, if the MSA payments aren't as high in the future as they were projected to be, the state of California will owe more money to the investors than they will receive. See the problem there?
I don't want to overload you, so I'll just pose a quick question about the other parties involved in all of this. Can you think of any reason why groups, such as the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, would actually not want to eradicate smoking?
yep, they might have to actually work for a living kinda like the rest of us. Although they yelled from the rooftops that they wanted to end smoking I don't think they were actually serious about it. Just way to much easy money to be made 
Although they yelled from the rooftops that they wanted to end smoking I don't think they were actually serious about it. Just way to much easy money to be made 
yes ... some negative side effects would show up within the first 10 years of smoking 
however, we're still waiting after almost 10 years of vaping
however, we're still waiting after almost 10 years of vaping
This is the graphic I and others have been posting on Facebook and Twitter regarding that:
#PleaseKeepSmokingWeNeedTheMoney
Sounds like someone doing research for the FDA arguments really.....
If we present this then the possible retort will be....And so on....
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