What's the appeal of Mech's and Dripper's?? I don't get it.

[Funk Dracula]

I do think todays VW technology is making a mech's ability to "fire anyting" a moot point. It's getting better, and it'll only continue to get better, and less expensive to boot. I don't think the OP is off in the slightest with that observation.

Would I like to eliminate battery drop off in my mech, and have it fire a consistent 30W all the way through a battery's life?
Absolutely. Anybody who claims otherwise is drinking "the" kool-aid.

Is it a deal breaker for me?
Nope. I'm fine with switching out batteries and dealing with 30W draining down to 24W when it's time to change said batteries.

There are many other things I consider important with what has turned out to be my all day, every day setup. I won't get into the details, but that's the short answer.

Things can and do change though. Who knows?

Cheers

 

[edyle]

What's the appeal of Mechanical mod's and Dripper's????? I've got them, and don't think much of them. I much prefer my VW devices and Tank systems (Kayfun/Taifun/Aqua). I use one of 2 devices daily either a DNA20 Futura or my Semovar (15w) and think they are a much better option...

Even when I've built drippers in the .7 and .8 range (as low as my DNA20 will fire) comparing the vape from that dripper in a Nemesis with a VTC5 battery vs my DNA20, I personally think the vape is stronger, thicker from the DNA20...

The only real appeal I see to the Mech's is price, and then only the clones. The genuine stuff (while worth every penny I'm sure ) is just as much as a high end VW device.

Obviously I'm missing something, just curious what it is. ????

I won't comment on the 'appeal' (except maybe to say that for suppliers it's more profitable to hype and sell a mech).

But adavantages of a mech are:
1: as you point out: price: It's possible to vape cheaper on mechs.
2: Modularity: with a suitable mech tube (eg nemesis) and kick modules and spare pieces you basically have a system equivalent to a rebuildable mod.

The modularity of a mech system also translates to upgradeability; just upgrading your kick for example.

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High power vaping is also a factor but I hesitate to call it an advantage.
It's like hot rod racing car capability with manual gears etc compared to standard family car with automatic transmission, power windows etc.

 

[edyle]

isnt it because when you build a sub ohm coil in your dripper you can push around 70 watts out of a mech because it isnt regulated? i have a .28 build and on a fresh battery, ohms law calculator is telling me im vaping at 63 watts.

Any idea what your voltage drop is?
That 63 watts assumes 4.2 volt battery and 0 volts voltage drop.
If you actual voltage drop is 1.2 volts, you actual vape power is more like 30 watts.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

But adavantages of a mech are:
1: as you point out: price: It's possible to vape cheaper on mechs.

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It's going to be hard to vape a free mechanical topped with a free dripper for under that price. Still need kanthal, cotton, battery, and a charger, assuming you have nail clippers and a paperclip.

Maurice

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[DeadbeatJeff]

What's the appeal of Mechanical mod's and Dripper's????? I've got them, and don't think much of them. I much prefer my VW devices and Tank systems (Kayfun/Taifun/Aqua). I use one of 2 devices daily either a DNA20 Futura or my Semovar (15w) and think they are a much better option...

Even when I've built drippers in the .7 and .8 range (as low as my DNA20 will fire) comparing the vape from that dripper in a Nemesis with a VTC5 battery vs my DNA20, I personally think the vape is stronger, thicker from the DNA20...

The only real appeal I see to the Mech's is price, and then only the clones. The genuine stuff (while worth every penny I'm sure ) is just as much as a high end VW device.

Obviously I'm missing something, just curious what it is. ????

I started with VV/VW, and now almost exclusively use mechs.

The appeal is that you can run WAY more power, like presently I'm pushing 88w/21a -- full copper mod with a .1 drop, maybe a little more at that load.

The appeal of a dripper is for high-powered lung hits.

I only use my VV/VW on a kayfun (or something like that), for puff-puffers.

 

[edyle]

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It's going to be hard to vape a free mechanical topped with a free dripper for under that price. Still need kanthal, cotton, battery, and a charger, assuming you have nail clippers and a paperclip.

Maurice

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You're comparing a battery to a battery tube?

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

You're comparing a battery to a battery tube?

Sure why not, (for the sake of cost to vape), it is all to often claimed that mechanicals get you vaping for less, that's just not true.

I'm not however making claim a mechanical mod and a vapor pen or whatever that thing is are going to produce the same vape, you can do whatever you want with the e-liquid vaporizing section, everything has limitations.

For some builds there is no getting around the fact that a mechanical is the only way to go, granted you may well have to bring along a push cart full of batteries but that is a function of running super low ohms and huge amp draws. You can't get around that with any type of electronics.

Your electronic devices are great if you care about a consistent vape pull to pull, that's exactly what they do, plus a few other bells and whistles.

They aren't the same road to creating vapor, never have been. Sort of a paint brush vs. an airbrush type deal.

While people have come up with electronic dodads to effectively get similar electronic functionality out of mechanicals and electronics may be made to bypass regulation, it ends up being a moot point.

Mechanicals and electronic devices are both tools we use to create vapor, each person has a skill or preference or style or mood to satisfy and it's great that different tools are available to satisfy the individual.

If I pick out a mechanical or electronic device, it is dependant more on my personal whim at the moment for how I want to create vapor, and that can be influenced by a whole slew of factors from the very practical to the vain.

Vape what you have, enjoy what you vape.

Maurice

 

[CassiusCloud]

Drippers are nice because you can change flavors without having to change wicks and coils.

Mechs are nice because they are simple and you can put the pedal to the floor if you feel like it or you can just drop a tank on there and go..

drop a mech and it's gonna get scratched..drop a regulated and you may be out of business for the meantime..
i like both regs and mechs..
but mechs just seem more versatile for me as well as durable.

 

[roadie]

For me it's the taste, i've not found a tank yet that is identical to the taste of dripping, some come close but not quite there. Other than that i prefer my nemesis and IGO-W in my pocket to my anti-mugging device (VTR)

I agree, for me nothing matches the flavor, vapor, and heat that I prefer except a mech mod dripping around .2 to .5 ohms. Anything higher for me and it's just too cold and..............for lack of a better explanation, gives a "dusty" feel on my throat and makes me cough.

 

[tj99959]

Self reliance more than anything.

When I started vaping (3+ years ago) the FDA was involved in a lawsuit. Stock orders were being siezed by customs, and an end to vaping was looming over our heads. So I started looking for products that would keep me from going back to smoking even if hell froze over, and a mechanical mod was an obvious choice. I also took the time to learn how to make a PV if need be.

When I started looking at RDAs I wasn't loking for a better vape, I was looking for a way to get the same great vape should atomizers become unavailible.

I started making my own e-liquid for the same reason.

So now I can get batteies for my flashlights, wire for my hotwire cutters, cotton balls from the drug store, and supplies to make candy.

 

[DancingHeretik]

I'm with tj. About 18 years of nic, a handful of mechs, and a handful of RBAs equals independence from the FDA games.

 

[GrandSam]

Mechs: Simple, and easy to use. No chance of a board frying on you. Best of all...I can drop it in the pool as often as I want (you never know...) and all I will have to replace is the battery!

Drippers: Rebuilding is extremely easy. Multiple combination of builds/customizable. Small size. And most importantly, you don't have to stick with one flavor for 1-5 mls.

 

[DeadbeatJeff]

I started with VV/VW, and now almost exclusively use mechs.

The appeal is that you can run WAY more power, like presently I'm pushing 88w/21a -- full copper mod with a .1 drop, maybe a little more at that load.

The appeal of a dripper is for high-powered lung hits.

I only use my VV/VW on a kayfun (or something like that), for puff-puffers.

I mean, what kinda VV can run that much power? a $300+ box mod that needs it's own gun-case to be easily taken around town?

I can get that much power with a well-chosen $30 clone or a $150 high-end artisan. And it fits in my front pocket without even showing.

I mean, with the new efests I can run 10a/42w on a device that is the length of a 650mah eGo.

 

[T0rtitude]

I can't really say because I have no knowledge or experience with drippers and mechs. I do know that the one time I tried a sub ohm on my brother in law's mech, it was heavenly. Strong vape, clean flavor. I have never gotten that result with my tanks or attys. Then again, I'm a casual vaper, so I don't sink any money into high end stuff.

 

[tj99959]

The appeal of a dripper is for high-powered lung hits.

OH-REALLY, then why did I start using drippers long before there was such a thing as sub ohm and "high-powered lung hits"?!?

 

[vapero]

just from my experience (comparing cheap mechs with cheap vw)

my mech clones cost less than half of what I paid for my sigelei zmax (I got 3 mechs for the same amount I paid for my zmax),
they are much more reliable (they always work)
they are smaller in any battery configuration
they are better looking (much more simple aesthetically)
they are much more sturdy, will take a beating easier
they have no limitations on the power (just the battery limits)

I vape at 40 something watts on average, so the dna chip will eventually get there but the price difference is huge

now for the drippers
there isn't anything as reliable and fiddle free as a well set dripper (just change the wick every couple of days and change the coil every couple of weeks)

 

[edyle]

I can't really say because I have no knowledge or experience with drippers and mechs. I do know that the one time I tried a sub ohm on my brother in law's mech, it was heavenly. Strong vape, clean flavor. I have never gotten that result with my tanks or attys. Then again, I'm a casual vaper, so I don't sink any money into high end stuff.

Drippers and mechs do not mean sub ohm.

As for money, and high end stuff, while it is true one can pay a million dollars for a simple piece of metal finely crafted with gold contacts, mechanical mods and drippers are both essentially simple devices which can be made very cheaply with low technology whereas electronics is by nature high tech.

 

[edyle]

just from my experience (comparing cheap mechs with cheap vw)

my mech clones cost less than half of what I paid for my sigelei zmax (I got 3 mechs for the same amount I paid for my zmax),
they are much more reliable (they always work)
they are smaller in any battery configuration
they are better looking (much more simple aesthetically)
they are much more sturdy, will take a beating easier
they have no limitations on the power (just the battery limits)

I vape at 40 something watts on average, so the dna chip will eventually get there but the price difference is huge

now for the drippers
there isn't anything as reliable and fiddle free as a well set dripper (just change the wick every couple of days and change the coil every couple of weeks)

And THAT is exactly why after getting into vaping, I am finding I want a mech or two: BACKUP.
When my vamo started getting center pin problems a few weeks ago, the very reason I had bought both a vamo and a zmax in december last year turned true; one became the back up for the other.

Would feel silly to have a dead vamo, a bunch of batteries, and no way to vape; so makes sense to have a simple battery tube available that has a 510/eGo top on it so you can vape; better yet if you have a few kick modules as spares. I might even mod myself a mech using vamo tubes if I get ahold of enough spare ones.

 

[K_Tech]

Some vapers, like me, have taken vaping on as a hobby. I really do love my regulated devices and the convenience of something like a Nautilus or a carto tank, but there's just something about the feeling I get when I wrap that "perfect" coil and wick it just right.... soooooooooooo satisfying...

 

[Ryedan]

Yup, lots of reasons for and against. It all boils down to what you like.

Genisis attys with SS wicks are great for clean flavor, lots of vapor, long wick life and easy maintenance. You can also set them up with cotton which is said to be really good too.

Kayfun type attys have fantastic flavor with a tank attached. Unmodified they don't seem that good for vapor production.

RDAs don't have the complexity of wicking from a tank because there is no tank. That means you can easily put a whole lot of power on them. Very simple setup, great flavor, vapor production and extremely easy maintenance with cotton.

A Reo is a dripper with a tank built in and works extremely well.

My preference for all these is mechanical mods. I started with mechanicals before the new high power regulated mods came on the scene and am very comfortable with them now. I would probably prefer a 50 watt regulated mod if I tried one but I haven't taken the plunge yet. Just not enough incentive for me yet. There's also the dependability and durability of mech mods to consider.

That's how I look at it, but that's me. YMMV as always