Whats with all the Provari hate?

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Frostedflames

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Idk I started with a Riva 510 messed around with ego tanks, got a krimson kustoms VV box mod that broke after a few months because I am really rough with my stuff but regardless was a awesome mod. Bumped up to a Lavatube lasted me about a year then this year got a Provari.

The funny thing is the first thread I made on ECF about what setup to get one of the first reply's suggested a Provari. If I would of been able to handle one and try it out one at a vape shop 3 years ago I would of bought it right off the bat and saved myself a lot of money on various Riva batteries, LR Ego's that lavatube and all these different tank setups (acorn tank DCT's Viva nova's)

I think the hate is because people just hate on people with nice things they can't get, and its ridiculous we all started vaping to get away from analogs and now I feel it has become so much more than that. It has become trendy, fashionable, and like pbusardo stated in one video getting like an extreme sport with all these people pushing their mods. It seriously reminds me of when me and my friends were first really getting into PC gaming we would always brag about who had the best rig and he would get hated on for it lol.

Don't get me wrong I don't think the Provari is the best on the market not everyone needs a huge mod, but it is holding its spot as one of the best. The same way the Iphone does in the phone industry it doesn't have the biggest screen and is not the most powerful hasn't really improved, but is widely regarded as the best phone and people hate on it (like me Android for life)

Anyway wow ya this thread went off topic lol.. but there's my 2 cents
 

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I think the hate is because people just hate on people with nice things they can't get.

Agreed. People hate what they wish they had.

I also agree with your whole post aswell.

I wish I woulda started out with the provari. Instead, I wasted a ton of money on a bunch of crap. There's a reason the provari has such a high praise/reputation. It's that good.

Dont hate somthing just cause everyone else has one and you don't.
 

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Dang, I never got picked on in high school for smoking Basics because I couldn't afford Marlboros. Only thing that mattered was that I smoked, so I got to hang with the cool kids at the movie theater.

Shut up about your Provari's and your Vamo's and your Reo's and your GG's and your eGo's and just hang with the cool kids at ECF. ;)
 

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"a far superior device such as the Vamo for $60 from Smoktech"

really?

"I think Smoktech couldve gotten away with $80-$100 for the Vamo"

again.. really?

"some in the tech industry do for companies like Apple"

apple makes overpriced underpowered devices that use 2 year old tech and call it superior. disregarding the OS the actual devices deserve to be called out for what they really are. and non apple fans cannot understand the blind loyalty.

"There is also the Zatty, which for whatever reason, gets the same amount of hate as the Provari."

as someone who has owned pretty much any genesis thats readily available the zap is being priced on pedigree alone and not the construction or features, most people like me who dont like them cant understand how this is worth 150 when for the same pricepoint there is much better.

I own many mods as well as 3 provari's and it is exactly what it claims to be nothing more. the strongest built and the most accurate voltage.
the only mod i have seen to hold its own against the provari is my semovar. but too many people are worried about bells and whistles and they dont seem to understand what the provari is offering. and get offended. the best mod will be the one YOU enjoy best. but time and time again many are so pleased with the performance and build quality they readily offer up their opinion and then get offended when they are slammed for their choice.
the fanboys are another story i agree, and its not so much the provari but the rabid fans senseless gushing that is getting bashed.

1. I stand by my statement about the Vamo. Ive seen the numbers (watch pbusardo's review of the Vamo, he runs the Vamo on a meter and tests everything). The Vamo outputs very accurately.

2. Considering other mods out there, yes, the Vamo could have easily gone for SIGNIFICANTLY more. I bought mine for $60 directly from smoktech. I dont think you can show me a VW mod for much less than $60 that also outputs accurately. By the way, Im not trumpeting the Vamo as the device to have, Im suggesting that right now, it appears to be the best bang for your buck. I dont see anything else providing more accurate output or functionality than the Vamo and the Vamo comes in at a VERY attractive price.

3. In dealing with your comments on Apple, I agree on the internals of the hardware (to a point). However, their tech isnt 2 years old and that is, to be blunt, just an asinine comment to make. By the way, Im not an Apple desktop / laptop user, I 'had' the first version of the iphone and I currently have an ipad because of the exclusivity in certain apps. I use a PC, a Samsung Note 1, and a Nexus 7 as my primary devices with my ipad and kindle filling in the gaps where the others do not.

4. As I stated in my OP, I believe the Zatty AND the Provari are a bit over priced.

5. I am interested in the Semovar, Ive never heard of it before. However, as usual, availability is nil on it and cloud9vaping seems to be out of service right now, not to mention, I live in the states so Im not even sure where Id pick one up, what the pricing is, or where to get more information on it.

If you are going to insult my intelligence with comments like 'really?' and 'again.. really?', you could actually back up your sarcasm with the reason(s) why you disagree. Im not a mind reader. You obviously disagree, but why?

Review of the Vamo, by Pbusardo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3lUnwV4_h4
 
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Jaguar07

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I personally can't stand that high-end device users operate under the false premise that everyone who owns something lesser is not getting the "best" vaping experience. Especially when jumping into every "I'm new- what should I get" thread to recommend them.
I don't need to drop $200+ on something to vape happily, so don't tell me that my $80 setup is crap just out of pure opinion.
IMHO a lot of these users bring it upon themselves.

I've never snubbed any device. I have quite a few different vaping devices already. I use all of them but one, and that one that I no longer use might be seen as a mistake to some. The device in question, a Lava Tube 1.5 ($65 kit), was my first big battery mod and it served a purpose for me. It showed me that even an inexpensive device using an 18650 suites ME better for most of my use, than my ego-C Twist does. It also got me through from day 30 to day 90 of vaping, away from cigarettes. I like the 18650 battery platforms when I get a day or more of use without having to recharge. I like that the batteries are independent of the device. I can take a battery out, put it on the charger and keep on Vapin' with the device using another battery. I own two provaris($217 with everything, and $130 tube only, blem, on sale, respectively).

When someone asks me what the BEST device is, I say my FAVORITES are my provaris, but I still use the Vamo V3($50 kit) and even the Ego-C Twist($24). Each of the above has a different "Sweet" spot to me.

I use the provari(expensive one) when there is no risk to the device, basically at home. I use the Vamo V3 when I am on the go, and the threat to the device is HIGH, but need all day battery power. If I am just running to the store for a gallon of milk and a loaf of bread, I stick an Ego in my shirt pocket and go.

The only item I have that I would not have bought, had I been better informed is the Lava Tube 1.5. I love my Vamo V3. I love both of my Provaris even more. I can't beat the Ego for something pocket friendly for 3-4 hours.

I have not transitioned to mechanical and dripping yet, but I probably will add that to my bag of goodies soon. I'm eying a $15 Omega mechanical pretty seriously.
 
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littlewierdo

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The statement about variable voltage being the same as variable wattage, sorry, you are just wrong on this. Yes, the two are related but they arent the same thing.

I use only rebuildables at this point. I cant stand carto tanks and I havent found any other tank system that Im happy with. One was mentioned earlier in this thread (I cant remember which it was so Ill go back and look for it tom. so I can order it).

The number one problem with rebuildables is their resistances change ALOT. Both just after you build the coil, and drops relatively quickly a few days AFTER you build and are using the coil. It also slowly drops for about a week or two until it stabilizes two weeks in, at which point its usually time to build a new coil.

The liquid I vape (Melon Bola?) from Good Life Vapor has a 'sweet spot' of 8 watts, with the Zatty. Anything much above that and it burns the taste (you can get away with 8.5 or 'maybe' 9 watts). Anything much below and the flavor is to pungent OR the Zatty wicks too quickly and it floods, lowering the throat hit significantly.

The ENTIRE reason I wanted VW is because, when I notice that my Zatty isnt performing like it should, 99% of the time its because the resistance changed, thus, I have to change the voltage.

Variable Wattage on the other hand, I can set it to 8 watts and NEVER go into the menu again (well, mostly never).
 
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