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A five cubic foot one will hold a lifetime's worth of nic and the meat from two deer. :)
That's bigger than I thought haha. I do want it for food freezer overflow too. Sounds like the smaller ones I've been looking at will work great. 3.5cf
 

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With the added benefit of knowing the joy of knowing the horror of the original owner's feelings about EITHER substance being frozen in it.

Also, it is REAAAALLLL easy to say one is not "recreationally hooked on a prescribed drug" when it comes from a doctor's pad, and NOT REAL EASY to say the same when one has to go through the MANY and DIFFERENT labyrinthine steps to get into a state sponsored MM program. I know. I was one of the first "caregiver parents" in Tucson AZ. My son was on 18 meds and without relief. MMJ got him down to one-- cannabis.

ALSO, BTW, REALLY easy to FORGET what being a MM user TAKES away-- the ability to participate in HUGE fields of study or types of work. My kid wanted to be a nurse, he would have made a great nurse, but you can't find WORK or even get LICENSED as a nurse because MOST healthcare facilities accept Federal Dollars and certain judgy (usually old women high on opiates due to their "arthritis" and in retirement think it's a "terrible drug" without ANY knowledge of how responsible medical marijuana patients ACT.

There is no one who could tell my son was high frankly, He made the (youthful) mistake of going through a field sobriety checkpoint and like saying he had a card (he did not realize disclosing it was, ah, well not so smart.) He took (and passed) FIVE field sobriety tests before the police, during the administration of the seventh, I believe stated he did not raise one leg QUIITE as high as his knee.

I don't smoke the herb, but if I did, I would NOT be driving because I'd be in jail. I cannot pass ONE filed sobriety test EITHER (so I found out when a cop grabbed me and like, pulled me out of my car due to my essential tremor, well I suppose I was speeding by 20 mph over the speed limit. Anyway, I told him up front there was NO WAY I would pass one even if I was calm, which I was not. I think I failed about 7 and like, I kept pointing out to the police officer that while I could not tilt my head backward while listening to traffic and tell him when 2 minutes had passed, I was a rather good driver given that well, I was going 20 mph over the speed limit and handling my car fine. Anyway, I eventually started crying and like, by this time 20 police arrived and they finally let my husband come and get me, (he, ironically enough WAS high, but parked at the BOTTOM of the parade of police, and came up and was, well, my rescuer, but he didn't act high either he's just paranoid.)

All my family were mad because when the cop asked me where I was coming from I said "An NA meeting actually." It was true! Also, I let him search my car and he found acupuncture needles and had no idea what the hell they were... So I explained, at length, and well, I think he just couldn't face hauling my .... off to jail OR writing up the "ticket" so I was freed to...…

Go to court and fight the ticket all the way and also got the police man to incriminate himself as "profiling" an area of street which is illegal in Pima County (don't ask me, but I was not happy with the cop) which just goes to show I am not Grace Under Pressure but a female dog in the courtroom.

My point, however is that I looked a HELL of a lot more like your typical "marijuana" user than either my kid, or my husband EVER have NOT under the influence of Marijuana.

So, ya'll can be judgy all you want, and y'all can be OMG SOMEONE IS HAVING FUN OFF WEED SO INTRACTABLE SEIZURE BABIES MUST DIE!!!!!!! THEY DESERVE IT, because someone, somewhere, is HAVING fun smoking DOPE as you self righteously swallow your evening valium plus ambien.

Please.

Anyone who is vaping flavored nic now is also soon to be a CRIMINAL! SQUALK!!! OMG it's an ILLEGAL DRUG AND SOMEONE IS ENJOYING IT! I hope you ALL are well, not pouring your eliquid down the drain and smashing your vapes (send them my way) but WOW you are about to be an illegal drug users.

So I hope you will stick to your god given principles and stop vaping then??????

INTERNALLY inconsistent logic is such a valuable skill is it not?

GOD.

Anna
 

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Hi Anna! I can relate in a way to your experience (albeit in a very different context) and certainly empathize with your story. I would like to politely caution that we should be careful in how we word things here. The ability to discuss this topic is very new and I think we want to be careful to not cause friction, so to speak. Please don't misunderstand me. I just want to encourage kindness and polite discussion, that's all :)

Really sorry you had such a maddening experience. My only run-in with the law on this matter took place in TN literally 2 months before I was set to move up north. The police illegally searched me (I was not educated enough to know my rights--big mistake), found a small amount of cannabis, then proceeded to read me my rights. I was certain I'd go to jail for the night and face probation for a year if nothing worse happened. One of the policemen ranted at me for half an hour about how I'm ruining my life and what a terrible, terrible substance it is. Then the three policemen gathered in private for a moment before calling me over and asking me to A) dump the cannabis on the ground and B) break my pipe. I did as I was asked, then was told to "get out of here and never come back" (this was on a hiking trail...).

It was an eye-opening experience as I was quite young at the time. I learned more about my rights, was extra careful about where I kept my MJ (read: tucked in backpack if hiking, not in pocket), and haven't had any issues since. Of course, two months later I moved up north and there's not the same kind of concern up here. A speeding ticket is a bigger deal where I live now and they usually don't even do anything if they catch you up here. (I've heard some funny stories, example: police took half of a friend's MJ and left him the other half, :lol:)

Anyway, my experience pales in comparison to yours (edit for clarity: your family's). Some of my friends down there haven't had the same fortune that I had. A good friend of mine uses it medically for very legitimate reasons, but of course there's no medical system in place there. He got caught one time, went to jail for the night and had probation for a year. His health was in shambles for that year as he did not partake due to the probation tests. It broke my heart.
 
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I think if i read enough from the Cannabis forum my tolerance level will go sky high. :lol: :thumbs::smokie:

I mean, initially i though this forum is a bad idea, a really bad idea !. Maybe if i pay enough attention to what's being said i may be inclined to change my mind.

I'm not sure at this point if this whole idea was thought through properly, or by who. The partially legal aspect of Cannabis, namely CBD, is far outweighed by the illegal aspects.

The Cannabis forum is, at this time, ambiguous in the sense that visitors and members aren't entirely sure what exactly they are allowed to talk about.

So what are the rules ?. Are there any ?.
 
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    So what are the rules ?. Are there any ?.

    Not sure if there are rules, as of yet. Not even sure why Cannabis was chosen over CBD.

    I know I made some generalizations regarding what would up for discussion, but I think if we can police ourselves, we can stave off any unwanted criticism. I saw in the read this sticky, folks were concerned about this area being the stoner section. If we keep our conversation to best practices regarding electronic devices, we can have more meaningful exchanges and show the rest of our members we are keeping everyone's best interests at heart.
     

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    Not even sure why Cannabis was chosen over CBD.
    The issue with lung disease appears to be caused by illicit THC cartridges, that's why they're allowing cannabis discussion. CBD use hasn't been linked to the health problems to our knowledge. Fully agreed about policing ourselves and so far so good :)
     

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    I can finally say it here……
    That's why they call it dope.

    Callin' folks judgemental for being against something is the pot calling the kettle black, don't ya think? Seriously, the vast majority of folks vaping thc is not for medicinal purposes anymore than my .... used to be. They use it to get high and add vitamin e to get more high.

    Sure a minor amount of users use it for medical purposes. But for every ton of grass that crosses into America from the north and south (or east and west for that matter) only a few pounds are for medicinal purposes and to think otherwise is fooling yourself.

    To turn an e-cigarette forum into a platform for recreational drug users to have a say so will turn away a lot of veterans here. A lot. Me, personally I've stopped buying stuff from every vape shop in my area now that they've stuffed display cases with dope smoking and vaping gear and gizmos. They are only feeding the problem.

    Somebody has to stand up and say ENOUGH. Calling those who do judgemental is also feeding the monster. And now it seems the monster has a child forum at the one place that used to stand up and say "no, we don't condone vaping for recreational drug use". Why? In hopes the American government will stop calling dope vaping gear e-cigarettes.
    Where's the rant about the liquor users? Should we start a separate forum for that as well? Alcohol destroys more lives on a daily basis than weed. Double standard...hmmm
     

    Letitia

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    All I'll add is
    I drink occasionally and I am not an alcoholic.
    I smoke a bowl occasionally and I am not a stoner.
    I vape daily very often and I don't have a neck beard or blow clouds.

    Apologies but I have a strong aversion for very high horses.
     

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    Way more judgement in here than I was expecting but also a lot of push-back on that judgement which is nice to see. They made the decision, for the right reasons. Those reasons being we can't defend nicotine vapes without saying that it's illegal THC vapes.

    That being said I vape nic, I vape THC, I smoke THC and I eat CBD mixed with THC. Such is a Colorado life.

    Might as well just embrace this change. The world can't tell THC from nicotine apart right now, we're all in the same boat right now like it or not. In fact I think THC vaping somehow is implicated less than nic vaping right now.
     

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    I can finally say it here……
    That's why they call it dope.

    Callin' folks judgemental for being against something is the pot calling the kettle black, don't ya think? Seriously, the vast majority of folks vaping thc is not for medicinal purposes anymore than my .... used to be. They use it to get high and add vitamin e to get more high.

    Sure a minor amount of users use it for medical purposes. But for every ton of grass that crosses into America from the north and south (or east and west for that matter) only a few pounds are for medicinal purposes and to think otherwise is fooling yourself.

    To turn an e-cigarette forum into a platform for recreational drug users to have a say so will turn away a lot of veterans here. A lot. Me, personally I've stopped buying stuff from every vape shop in my area now that they've stuffed display cases with dope smoking and vaping gear and gizmos. They are only feeding the problem.

    Somebody has to stand up and say ENOUGH. Calling those who do judgemental is also feeding the monster. And now it seems the monster has a child forum at the one place that used to stand up and say "no, we don't condone vaping for recreational drug use". Why? In hopes the American government will stop calling dope vaping gear e-cigarettes.

    Get your facts straight my friend.
    THC and CBD are two different things.
    THC for a high CBD for medicinal, people Don't use THC for medicinal purposes:)
     
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