Where are my fruits?

[JKomiko]

New to DIY, mixed up a few batches last week:
Strawberry Cheesecake: Cheesecake Graham crust (tpa) 6%, Strawberry ripe (tpa) 10%
Raspberry Vanilla Ice Cream: Raspberry sweet (tpa) 5%, VBIC (cap) 8%
Blueberry Danish: Blueberry (cap) 4%, Blueberry wild (tpa) 4%, Cinnamon danish swirl v2 (cap) 2%
Strawberry Banana Cheesecake: Banana cream (tpa) 5%, Strawberry ripe (tpa) 5%, Cheesecake graham crust 8%, Whipped cream (cap) 3%

I get the creamy, cheesecake, danish type notes but my fruits are lacking. Most of my fruit flavors are TPA, are they inherently weak? I used mainly 5 star recipes from ELR, but mine don't get 5 Stars. I'm going to try tonight remix and add Sweet strawberry (cap) to the strawberry mixes and maybe bump up percentages on the BB and Rasp. Would adding a little (tpa) blackberry to the dark berries bring up the flavor some?

 

[Kenna]

Try bumping the fruits up 2% at a time. I wwouldn't add blackberry, it's a totally different taste than blueberry. I've heard of using bilberry as an enhancer for blueberry. I have a blueberries & cream that I added blueberry candy to along with the 2 you used to get where I wanted it. Just a bit made the blueberry pop. Oh, & lemon juice to stablize the fruits.

 

[BackDoc]

Cut back on the % of flavorings by half, they may stand out more.,...when I first started out I thought the more concentrates I used would result in more flavor , past a certain point it mutes the flavor.......... Keep the flavors simple in the beginning, one or two and build from there, good luck

 

[JKomiko]

I've heard about the bilberry don't have it right now, blueberry candy is a new one for me. My new order list is getting longer

 

[Kenna]

I've heard about the bilberry don't have it right now, blueberry candy is a new one for me. My new order list is getting longer

Start lower on the candy than the other 2. Like 1.5 maybe.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

The only flavor you used that I have any experience with it TFA Ripe Strawberry. It's pretty weak compared to other fruits. And it needs a week to steep before you can taste it at all.

 

[Lannie]

Try Capella's Sweet Strawberry. That's the first (only) one I've tried, but it's good right from the first minute. Tastes just like a slightly sweetened fresh strawberry, right down to the seeds. I LOVE that stuff and use it in almost everything now. I make a strawberry cupcake juice with that, TFA's Vanilla Cupcake, and Capella's Cake Batter, and as soon as I'm done mixing it, I can vape it and it's wonderful.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

I like the TFA Vanilla Cupcake too. Tastes like cake batter to me. I'll have to get the CAP's and try that one.

 

[Lannie]

I like the TFA Vanilla Cupcake too. Tastes like cake batter to me. I'll have to get the CAP's and try that one.

While you're at it, get "butter" (CAP) and some ethyl maltol or other sweetener, if you don't already have them. That recipe is 6% cake batter, 5% vanilla cupcake, 5% sweet strawberry, 2% butter, and 1% EM. YUMMY! Shake and vape!

(That's not my recipe, by the way, I found it on a recipe site...)

 

[Hans Wermhat]

I have the EM. I made the newb mistake of buying the crystals ad trying to dilute them myself. Talk about a PITA!!!! Lol!

 

[JKomiko]

The only flavor you used that I have any experience with it TFA Ripe Strawberry. It's pretty weak compared to other fruits. And it needs a week to steep before you can taste it at all.

Yes, after going back to these after a 10 day steep the strawberry is finally coming up. Still disappointed in the blueberry though.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

TFA Blueberry Extra is super strong. Gunks up the coils really quick though.

 

[dead not sleeping]

A touch of Sour will bring the fruits out a bit more than a "sweet" will. I'll never use EM again. I like CAP over TFA for fruits. Their Sweet Strawberry is very good. I use it and Sour to replace the EM in recipes. Even though you can pretty much shake 'n' vape fruits, a week or two steep will really be beneficial. Thats a natural steep, without any 'magic methods' added. If you ask me, and I do note no one did, heat kills fruit flavors. I'm not against the magic, it certainly speeds things up, but I think the quality suffers in the end.

 

[herb]

I love strawberry ripe by TFA and i also have Capella's sweet strawberry , FA Strawberry is probably my favorite and it's strong .

TFA does have quite a few overly weak flavorings that i also bump up in percentage . if your using Strawberry ripe at 10% you should definitely taste it .

Make sure you mix them really well .

 

[petrotech]

Here's my ADV...if I let it steep a week or so, the individual flavors become more "distinct", but I can taste them all right off that bat. I love TPA/TFA flavorings, it's all I've used since I started DIY. I suggest making 5 to 10 ml "testers" with individual flavors before creating a recipe. It'll give you a better idea of what YOUR tastes are. Every person's taste buds are different, so you'll need to figure out what works for you! Good luck and have fun!

 

[JKomiko]

A touch of Sour will bring the fruits out a bit more than a "sweet" will. I'll never use EM again. I like CAP over TFA for fruits. Their Sweet Strawberry is very good. I use it and Sour to replace the EM in recipes. Even though you can pretty much shake 'n' vape fruits, a week or two steep will really be beneficial. Thats a natural steep, without any 'magic methods' added. If you ask me, and I do note no one did, heat kills fruit flavors. I'm not against the magic, it certainly speeds things up, but I think the quality suffers in the end.

I have some sour, what percentage? I'm thinking maybe .25?

 

[dead not sleeping]

I have some sour, what percentage? I'm thinking maybe .25?

Up to 1%. Over that it gets too "candy".