Where have all the 50/50's gone?

[misterholidayhouse]

I do sub ohm and open draw, so I'm not a tootle puffer, but I could care less about a clouds and looking "cool" so what does that make me?

You make an excellent point. I'm sure there are many more like you. Just one more demographic in the overall world of vapers. I have to remember there are people who sub ohm who aren't cloud chasers and those who don't tolerate PG. I'm not one of them though. I crave throat hit and bold flavors. I personally hate the term "tootle puffer" and I just used it here for the first time in my previous post. That just shows you how much vaping has changed. I'd rather refer to it as classic vaping or old school, or.... vaping. Vape on.

 

[SomeTexan]

You make an excellent point. I'm sure there are many more like you. Just one more demographic in the overall world of vapers. I have to remember there are people who sub ohm who aren't cloud chasers and those who don't tolerate PG. I'm not one of them though. I crave throat hit and bold flavors. I personally hate the term "tootle puffer" and I just used it here for the first time in my previous post. That just shows you how much vaping has changed. I'd rather refer to it as classic vaping or old school, or.... Vaping. Vape on.

Why do people care about labels though? We are all vapers, be cool with each other and show a little respect for those that vape differently. There are quite a few like us that see it like that, it's just that some people have to have their little groups within a group I guess.

I got called a tootle puffer at the vape shop today by a purple haired kid. It would seem that the only reason for it was because I asked him not to blow clouds directly in my face. He called me old too, is 33 really old to late teens now? he did shut up when he saw my Snow Wolf and Freakshow. I guess it made him and his SubBox feel inadequate...

 

[LordMarv]

I'd tried quite a few max vg juice over time, alot of them are anemic or thin tasting, lack depth and flavor. Smooth, yeah I guess...I can't even feel the vapor going into my lungs with some of them. I like throat hit! So in the end I just keep going back to 50/50...just works best for me and my tanks, from squapes and kayfuns up to rebuildable tanks and subtanks.
What does bug the hell of me is like you said, alot of these companies never even post the ratio on their sites, and the only clue you have is the nic level, 3 or 6 mg. I guess if all you know is dripping....but that's kind of arrogant. And I've emailed quite a few with polite letters asking if they'd consider a 50/50 offering and usually I never get a reply back. Or I'll be told something like "Our higher VG blends do tank quite well with subtanks". Maybe so, on a Freemax Starre or Uwell Crown...maybe. I see tons of juice companies sponsored on say, Vapers.tv, seems like almost all of them are high vg juices.
In our town we have 3 vape shops, all of which carry very few 50/50 blends. Once I went into a local shop with a Kayfun V4, and the guy behind the counter asked me what kind of tank that was, he'd never seen one before. C'mon, I mean a kayfun isn't something that exotic! But I guess if you hadn't seen a kayfun or squape or Billow V2, you wouldn't have much use for 50/50 juice.

 

[dsheik]

If your into naturally extracted tobacco blends BlackNote and NET.com can be had in 50/50.

https://www.blacknote.com/
Has some I really like and they are 50/50
Easy on coils too.

www.Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com, e-liquids for electronic cigarettes
Very customizable. Haven't received order so cant add anything else.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

When I started, I made bookmarks. Probably had 75 or so. I find that no vendor has perfect everything, but in the same sense, there are gems. For my juices I have currently about 11 that I return to for purchasing. No vendor has more than 2...I just keep trying.

 

[SomeTexan]

I'd tried quite a few max vg juice over time, alot of them are anemic or thin tasting, lack depth and flavor. Smooth, yeah I guess...I can't even feel the vapor going into my lungs with some of them. I like throat hit! So in the end I just keep going back to 50/50...just works best for me and my tanks, from squapes and kayfuns up to rebuildable tanks and subtanks.
What does bug the hell of me is like you said, alot of these companies never even post the ratio on their sites, and the only clue you have is the nic level, 3 or 6 mg. I guess if all you know is dripping....but that's kind of arrogant. And I've emailed quite a few with polite letters asking if they'd consider a 50/50 offering and usually I never get a reply back. Or I'll be told something like "Our higher VG blends do tank quite well with subtanks". Maybe so, on a Freemax Starre or Uwell Crown...maybe. I see tons of juice companies sponsored on say, Vapers.tv, seems like almost all of them are high vg juices.
In our town we have 3 vape shops, all of which carry very few 50/50 blends. Once I went into a local shop with a Kayfun V4, and the guy behind the counter asked me what kind of tank that was, he'd never seen one before. C'mon, I mean a kayfun isn't something that exotic! But I guess if you hadn't seen a kayfun or squape or Billow V2, you wouldn't have much use for 50/50 juice.

I used max VG for every tank I have. nautilus, Smok micro GDC, Kanger SubTank, Smok TCT and Herakles. I only rarely use my rda's.

But, almost everywhere I get juice from offers their juices in whatever blend you want. From max vg to max pg, make your choice. The big name places with super complex juice may not want to change the mix because that would change the flavor. They don't want to develop different blends for each vg/pg ratio just to keep a consistent flavor.

For me, if I find a company that doesn't list the vg/pg ratio, I don't buy anything from them. If they don't care enough about their customers to tell them that, they probably don't care what they put in their juice.

I've never seen a Kayfun in a local shop. I've seen them online and know what they are, but I have yet to see one in anyone's hand or behind glass. I don't know why that is because they seem popular.

 

[Rex Everything]

check out Ahlusion e liquids... lots of great flavors and you pick the vg/pg ratio....nic levels from 3 to 18?mg ......mixed to order like Mt baker and ITC .... great quality....and moderatly priced....

 

[MaxwellPink]

I was just on Mt. Baker Vapor and they had 5 levels of mix.

Their GWARY4 isn't bad, IMHO.

 

[hurricanegirl100]

There are scads of vendors online who offer PG/VG customization. You can't find any? Seriously?

 

[LMS62]

Although I do a bit of DIY, I also order juice from a pretty good variety of vendors on-line on a fairly regular basis. So far I haven't noticed an issue with 50/50 not being offered.

 

[440BB]

Both Ahlusion and Mr E-Liquid continue to offer a variety of pg/vg ratios including 50/50 as well as interesting flavors. I think that the limited, mostly VG trend is concentrated on the newer liquid vendors, while the long standing vendors serve the broader market. The long term players continue to offer varieties to suit all types of vapers. Regardless of one's ratio preference, both of these companies make tasty liquids.

 

[TKS]

Tried Loire?

 

[roxynoodle]

Ahlusion does. Many of Nicoticket's are as well.

 

[windxrunner]

I just ordered a sample pack from DBLiquids. They offer 50/50 and I've heard good things about them. To the people ribbing me for not being able to find the liquid I want, I say this: I'm sorry I do not know everything. I realized I am somewhat ignorant in this area, that is why I am asking for help. I have ordered from a few sites that offer PG/VG customization but in my experience these sites tend to be more on the budget side, and I'm quite picky with my liquid. I am used to nice, complex, "premium" liquids and I have found that pretty much all the sites I've ordered from that offered the customization tasted cheap.

Anyway, I have high hopes for DBLiquids. Their prices are pretty good and I've read and heard that their liquids are quite tasty. Any other recommendations are welcome, though!

 

[windxrunner]

Tried Loire?

I have not. Are they the ones where every flavor is a cheesecake or macaroon?

 

[windxrunner]

Ahlusion does. Many of Nicoticket's are as well.

Thank you! I'll check them out. I've heard of Nicoticket but never ordered from them.

 

[David Wolf]

It's simple, they make what sells.

I can't stand high pg juice. Much over 25-30% and it is like trying to smoke the filter from a cigarette. I end up coughing and wheezing worse than when I smoked and constantly think I burnt cotton or something. I'm not a cloud chaser, never wanted to be a part of a cloud comp. But, I couldn't quit cigs with tootle puffer gear. When I went sub ohm with an open draw, I was able to kick the cigs. And that's the reason I vape, to quit smoking.

I do sub ohm and open draw, so I'm not a tootle puffer, but I could care less about a clouds and looking "cool" so what does that make me?

A Texan.

 

[jada1082]

Thank you! I'll check them out. I've heard of Nicoticket but never ordered from them.

Nicoticket's Wakonda (50/50)is my favorite from them so far, good coffee vanilla tobacco...along with custards last stand.
Edit- I should also note. In my juice quest only Wakonda and Charlie nobles pistachio ry4 - are on my reorder list.

 

[TKS]

I have not. Are they the ones where every flavor is a cheesecake or macaroon?

Macaroon yes. I know some folks don't like that though. I used to like it. Not so much these days though. But for the flavors they are... They are true to description I must say.

 

[Gothicmace59]

I just loved your title------reminds me of a 60s song --------"Where Have All The Flowers Gone"

Lol..... I thought the same thing ....and am now sitting here humming it while I vape. Peace man.....