Where is vaping going?

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abn75

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My experience so far, what really is banned is visible devices and visible vapor and may be detectable odor. Eliminate those and most people don't notice vaping and if they see you going through the motions but don't see anything else they don't react. (How can we be sure he pressed the fire button?) That's the way things are working out in the shop where I work. That's the way it worked for 2 long sits at airport gates over chriistmas including Newark Liberty and the way it worked in the Federal court house in Detroit last Spring for jury duty (in the jury room). Part of the hobby for me now is Vape-Where-No-Man-Has-Vaped-Before (and don't get called out).
Last job i worked had a strict no smoking (including vaping) policy. Even getting seen with a mod, pen style, etc was grounds to be terminated. Didn't matter where on property it was. They went so far as to fire people who did either inside their own vehicle while on company property. We had a few who tried to bend the rules by stealth vaping, they were quickly caught and escorted off property.
While i vape, and don't agree with these policies, i abide by them. Their property, their rules. Vaping isn't worth my job. If i needed to vape that bad i toke a break and left property. If i can't go through a store, sit through a movie or any other activity with out sticking a mod in my mouth to vape then i have bigger issues going on. Imho stealth vaping and getting caught, and everyone gets caught eventually, surely doesn't help the image of vapers.


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Last job i worked had a strict no smoking (including vaping) policy. Even getting seen with a mod, pen style, etc was grounds to be terminated. Didn't matter where on property it was. They went so far as to fire people who did either inside their own vehicle while on company property. We had a few who tried to bend the rules by stealth vaping, they were quickly caught and escorted off property.
While i vape, and don't agree with these policies, i abide by them. Their property, their rules. Vaping isn't worth my job. If i needed to vape that bad i toke a break and left property. If i can't go through a store, sit through a movie or any other activity with out sticking a mod in my mouth to vape then i have bigger issues going on. Imho stealth vaping and getting caught, and everyone gets caught eventually, surely doesn't help the image of vapers.


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If my shop were as strict about everything you're talking about it would lose all it's talent. It's not unusual for us to be working 65 hours a week (5 x 12 hours + 1 x 6 hours). A normal week is 55 hours. If personal life could never intrude like you are describing some of the guys would lose their families. When the shop is doing 65's my free time is an hour in the morning and 45 minutes in the evening, not much time to vape and I have to get breakfast and dinner in that time. If my work week was 40 hours that concentration camp you work in might be bearable.
 

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If my shop were as strict about everything you're talking about it would lose all it's talent. It's not unusual for us to be working 65 hours a week (5 x 12 hours + 1 x 6 hours). A normal week is 55 hours. If personal life could never intrude like you are describing some of the guys would lose their families. When the shop is doing 65's my free time is an hour in the morning and 45 minutes in the evening, not much time to vape and I have to get breakfast and dinner in that time. If my work week was 40 hours that concentration camp you work in might be bearable.
40 hour week? Hell when i worked there we put in 5 12s then 2 8s. Every week. 30 minute break in moring, hour lunch, 30 minutes in evening. Place also ran 24/7. Pay was awesome, so no shortage of people looking to get in, even with all their restrictions.
Last i heard they went back to random car searches going in the gates.

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My experience so far, what really is banned is visible devices and visible vapor and may be detectable odor. Eliminate those and most people don't notice vaping and if they see you going through the motions but don't see anything else they don't react. (How can we be sure he pressed the fire button?) That's the way things are working out in the shop where I work. That's the way it worked for 2 long sits at airport gates over chriistmas including Newark Liberty and the way it worked in the Federal court house in Detroit last Spring for jury duty (in the jury room). Part of the hobby for me now is Vape-Where-No-Man-Has-Vaped-Before (and don't get called out).

you're not the only one to mention this kind of behavior and you wont be the last... but you are the current example... anyone who risks the ban hammer harder on all who vape, just because they get a thrill out of it, make it worse for the rest of us. this is no better than those whom other complain about with massive clouds, both are anti-social habits that makes it worse for the rest of us who vape and follow common curtesy rules. thanks!
 

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you're not the only one to mention this kind of behavior and you wont be the last... but you are the current example... anyone who risks the ban hammer harder on all who vape, just because they get a thrill out of it, make it worse for the rest of us. this is no better than those whom other complain about with massive clouds, both are anti-social habits that makes it worse for the rest of us who vape and follow common curtesy rules. thanks!
Vaping is going the same way it has been going for the last few years: Vapers judging other vapers instead of supporting them. Doomed, I tell ya, doomed.
 

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Vaping is going the same way it has been going for the last few years: Vapers judging other vapers instead of supporting them. Doomed, I tell ya, doomed.
there is a difference between different type of vaping gear and styles... and detrimental, deliberate behaviors that affect us all.
 

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Clouds give the public the perception that if there's no visible vapor there's no vaping. If the device is small enough to conceal in a hand, if there is no visible vapor, and if I behave as though I don't want to be noticed, very few people notice and if they do there's no reaction. May be the cloud people make things easier for the rest of us.

I am not sure I understand your post @sofarsogood, I vape as I did when I smoked for my own pleasure and satisfaction having never been an exhibitionist.

What I do not understand in your post is: "How the cloud people make things easier for the rest of us?"
If anything they make it harder for us that do not wish to be noticed vaping.

Am I missing something here?
 

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I am not sure I understand your post @sofarsogood, I vape as I did when I smoked for my own pleasure and satisfaction having never been an exhibitionist.

What I do not understand in your post is: "How the cloud people make things easier for the rest of us?"
If anything they make it harder for us that do not wish to be noticed vaping.

Am I missing something here?

I think what sofarsogood was referring to is the general public associates vaping with big clouds of vapor (smoke to them). If you stealth vape with minimal cloud, folks don't realize it's vaping.
 
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I think what sofarsogood was referring to is the general public associates vaping with big clouds of vapor (smoke to them). If you stealth vape with minimal cloud, folks don't realize it's vaping.
Yeppers that is exactly what I try to do. Stealth Vape! Why peeve people unecessarily.

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Guess it depends on where you live.



I see clouds coming out of cars all the time.
I see clouds coming out of people walking down the street.


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Not to mention horrid stinking smoke coming from trucks and buses burning diesel or what is worse that bio diesel. I got stuck in a traffic jam the other day behind a tourist coach burning bio diesel and the stench made me throw up in my car. Oh well an empty shopping bag came in handy. My God that bio diesel might be eco friendly but it sure as heck made me vomit.
Before any one asks I was stone cold sober and no alcohol in my system.
 

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Not to mention horrid stinking smoke coming from trucks and buses burning diesel or what is worse that bio diesel. I got stuck in a traffic jam the other day behind a tourist coach burning bio diesel and the stench made me throw up in my car. Oh well an empty shopping bag came in handy. My God that bio diesel might be eco friendly but it sure as heck made me vomit.
Before any one asks I was stone cold sober and no alcohol in my system.
cannot like your post... but i have smelled that stuff... ughhh do not blame you in the least.
 

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I was on an outdoor train platform not that long ago. Had my little stealth setup in my hand. Realized there was a cop not 10 feet from me. With no cloud coming out, he looked right passed me.

OK, I did hold my inhale for a little longer than usual.;)
Lol, here in Australia, we are not permitted by various state laws which I might add are FUBB, to have nic juice in our possession without a prescription. There is a company in Sydney, (I think as I have never been able to ascertain their registered business address) that does sell Nic Juice by prescription and their doctor will issue you with a prescription under some legal loop hole which not being a legal beagle I fail to comprehend. The company is called Nicopharm. Ok, I tried their juice, got my copy of the prescription by email. The juice I purchased was flavorless to which I soon added my favorite concentrate.

I was sitting in an open air mall having a coffee and using my stealth vape. This one:
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Mine is the red one. I got a tap on the shoulder from a security patrol man for the mall and he proceeded to tell me that I could not smoke in the mall. I showed him the device and told him that I was not smoking as there was no combustion and also produced my bottle of juice with a pharmacy label on it as well as a copy of my prescription and told him I was using a medically prescribed device and compound. He could not do a thing about it. I wished him a good day and I and my companion had a good laugh.
 
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cannot like your post... but i have smelled that stuff... ughhh do not blame you in the least.
So what is wrong with my post that you dislike or disagree with? The worst pollutants to the air we breath are alas motor vehicles of any description.

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So what is wrong with my post that you dislike or disagree with? The worst pollutants to the air we breath are alas motor vehicles of any description.

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i can't give you a like for puking, sorry! getting puke stench out of a car... so not fun, speaking as a mom who had one son who was constantly car sick for years and having to keep a bag handy.
 

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i can't give you a like for puking, sorry! getting puke stench out of a car... so not fun, speaking as a mom who had one son who was constantly car sick for years and having to keep a bag handy.
My heart felt sympathy, yes, I do hear where you are coming from especially if you are using air con when this happens. I use a product called Nilodour which I buy from our local hardware shop which is excellent, I do not know if it is available in your neck of the woods. It is very economical. One just sprinkles a few drops of it on the carpet of the car and its scent gets absorbed also into the air con and magic happens the puke smell is gone in less than half an hour. Also another good product is called Auto Kolone which is an Aussie made product that also is excellent.
 

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i had forgotten about that stuff... i remember my dad having the nilodour when i was a kid... (son)he's 25 now and his ear troubles are thankfully over. lol now it's just the hubby facing my wrath if he spills stuff on my leather seats(i live in canada i LOVE my heated leather seats!). i've actually gotten complemented on my baby truck's air freshener when picking up and dropping off customers... lol and a few laughs when they've learned i was vaping in it before they got in, usually from the smokers actually(no they are not allowed to smoke in it, my baby is detailed).
 

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Wow, such a reaction. The point of stealthy vaping is to not attract attention and not invade anybody's personal space with vapor or anything else. If I made a big show out of the motions of vaping but never pressed the fire button what rule would there be for that? What is it exactly that people need protection from? Every living breathing human exhales every few seconds and guess what comes out of their mouths, vapor, water vapor. It's a watery soup of mucous, micro organisms and what they had for breakfast. Disgusting. I add some biologically inert PG and VG and exhale it invisibly along witth all that other stuff and there's an uproar. This deserves further investigation.
 
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