Where's the Salt?

[DocFab]

Guys,

This is something I've seen mentioned here a few times, but I'd like to see it discussed in detail again. I wonder if there's anyone else out there, besides me, who feels that vaping (even with your favorite flavors) is lacking a certain kind of saltiness that analogs had?

From what I remember reading, "salty" e-juices don't contain sodium, but instead some sort of substitute. What's the real story?

Do we have any chemists sitting around who can explain why vaporizing and inhaling small amounts of salt might be a poor idea?

Thanks!

 

[Hottody]

Sorry can not help with this one. I wonder if there are certain flavor profiles that may seem to taste more salty then others?

 

[DaveP]

I've never noticed "salty" in anything I've vaped. Pepper is common. It's used to create that little pepper sensation on inhale and exhale.

Maybe it's that salty Florida air that makes the difference with tobacco and not when you vape.

 

[Scottibones]

I don't think it's the Florida air I don't remember a salty taste with analogs That being said dissolving salt in your liquid would probably not be harmful to you but would take a toll on your coil leaving deposits and fouling things up

 

[Wishdog]

Problem is, use a sodium or potasium or whatever salt, by definition a salt is some split up ions that go to crystal form really easy (horrible definition there, but close.)

You'll have a salt encrusted atty. Maybe create a "salt table" in the middle of a carto. Wicks will clog. Dogs and cats living together. MASS HYSTERIA!!!

 

[martinc]

Dont even want to mention how salt is BAD for your arteries

 

[Wishdog]

If you have hypertension...

Plus, no way you can vape the amount of sodium in a canned soup. And I used to eat bowl noodle daily with 2+ grams of sodium.

(Note the soups usually say 2.5 servings. This micro-serving mentality falls into the Lean Cuisine category of thinking. "Those Lean Cuisine lasagnas are great. I just had six for lunch.")

 

[SilverBear]

(... This micro-serving mentality falls into the Lean Cuisine category of thinking ...)

 

[DocFab]

Guys, cigarettes contain sodium acetate, benzoate, bicarbonate, carbonate, chloride, citrate, and hydroxide. That's a lot of salt, so yes, cigarettes are salty. It may not seem obvious, but that's because they're a melange of endless flavor and chemical additives. You wouldn't exactly say a cigarette is sweet, either, but it's been well-documented in recent years that they contain enough to pose a risk for diabetics.

E-juices lack sodium, and if a negligible amount for flavor would threaten one's health, then table salt would have killed us years ago. It's the missing link here, almost like that elusive fifth taste, umami. So, I've heard rumors that certain vendors' buttered popcorn flavor, for example, tastes salty. Can anyone tell me what additive is being used to impart this perceived saltiness? If salt would bring more negative press to vaping, are there any harmless additives that could be utilized to give us juice with a little more depth?

 

[weisner]

I don't think it's the Florida air I don't remember a salty taste with analogs That being said dissolving salt in your liquid would probably not be harmful to you but would take a toll on your coil leaving deposits and fouling things up

I would hazard to suggest that much like cooking oil, PG and VG may not react well to having salt added to them. In cooking oils it causes a molecular breakdown that fouls the oil and any food cooked in it.

I think this is a bad idea. I am however willing to be corrected.

 

[AaronY]

Problem is, use a sodium or potasium or whatever salt, by definition a salt is some split up ions that go to crystal form really easy (horrible definition there, but close.)

You'll have a salt encrusted atty. Maybe create a "salt table" in the middle of a carto. Wicks will clog. Dogs and cats living together. MASS HYSTERIA!!!

Over in the Park Vaping Malted Toffee thread some on said Highbrows version is salted. He recommended it. I guess it is not destroying his gear.

 

[EleanorR]

You're looking for "savory" flavors (umami). Try searching this section and the E-liquid Reviews section for suggestions. (These juices do exist; while they have their fans, the general consensus is "yuck-o". Yes, "yuck-o" is a term of art in vaping. )

 

[Caridwen]

Crab juice might be a little salty.

 

[Wishdog]

Guys, cigarettes contain sodium acetate, benzoate, bicarbonate, carbonate, chloride, citrate, and hydroxide. That's a lot of salt, so yes, cigarettes are salty.

So that's why my carto clogged when I crammed that Camel into it. Salt, huh?

 

[Caridwen]

Lemon juice activates the same taste receptors as sodium, so you could try adding some lemon, small amount. But I'd go with Eleanor's suggestion and look for 'savory'.

 

[EleanorR]

Lemon juice activates the same taste receptors as sodium, so you could try adding some lemon, small amount. But I'd go with Eleanor's suggestion and look for 'savory'.

I did not know that! (No wonder I love Limoncello e-juice so much! )

 

[*ASH*]

First time see some one look for test like that !!

 

[Caridwen]

I did not know that! (No wonder I love Limoncello e-juice so much! )

Me too! Lemon is my new addiction.

Like I needed another one!

 

[EleanorR]

It's this darn heat/drought. I've been sucking down lemon and lime e-juice concoctions for weeks now!

 

[EleanorR]

First time see some one look for test like that !!

Flavor-receptor testing is an entire industry unto itself. All food-makers (ice cream, sodas, juices, etc.) rely on such testing.