Which side of the fence are you on and why?

[s3anvap3s]

Let me just preface this response by saying that I just got finished reading a thread where someone posted a pic of a PV in a bible and said he was vaping in the back row....on Christmas Eve.

So having said that, I do vape openly, but would never vape in a Church of any kind. I do vape in stores and in restaurants but not annoyingly, not discretely either, but not obnoxiously.

 

[sobero4]

From a recent RN graduate currently seeking employment. First off, analogs have a long track record of having double blind random control trials that span 10-20 years. The journal these scientists have to right up upon their final results has to present a concisely distinct method to reproduce the experiment from start to finish with all necessary control factors to get the same results...cigarettes are terrible for any person's body. With that being said, and I know many of you are going to disagree with me here, but e-cigarettes have not had double blind randomized control trials stretching for an amount of time long enough to even grant us presumptive conclusions of harm or safety. Nor has one been completed through it's entirety and been reduplicated by other scientists who are unbiased to any potential results. I will make this fairly simple statement though in hopes to have my vaping community not gaze eyes on me as some sort of dissident; we know cigarettes kill people, yet the FDA is coming after electronic cigarette devices. By e-cigarettes becoming a viable (and if the truth be known, a threatening) method to lead to smoking cessation, Pharmaceutical companies who make patches, gums, Chantix, etc are thrown in an uproar and line up right outside of state and local legislatures bureaus to cry their losses and make fraudulent ideations of how they know that e cigs are harmful. These people also talk with FDA, which is a whole other nightmare. Vapers are a small group of people, with a respectively small body of members and finances in comparison to large pharmaceutical companies and big tobacco. Right now, I see it as a bunch of people in power that won't be able to take it in any general direction without the backbone of critical laboratory analysis, which will still be unavailable for quite a bit of time.

 

[martinc]

Yeah,valid argument,but they still let us smoke analogs (and as many as we wish) which are known to eventually be deadly and even more,harmfull to the others around us!!!

Ok,little laws applied throughout the years lessened the "to the others" factor somewhat,but still leave all of us able to slowly kill ourselves and harm others around us!

Hypocrit comes to mind when we speak of governments...its all about money.

If they temporarily ban them while they do a quick study (because this is exactly what its gonna be given the rising popularity)its only so they have time to apply a base tax that we all know,will skyrocket in no time if they get more popular.

It will be for our safety and health.of course

 

[Kind Head]

Can't say 100% which side if the fence I'm on yet. I'm still very young at vaping, so I could change my views as time goes on. So far, I've been accustomed to going outside for a smoke wherever I was. Smoking indoors is banned in my state. You can't smoke in bars, clubs, casinos, restaurants, or anywhere. So it doesn't really bother me to go outside to vape. So far, I haven't vaped publicly indoors. The way I feel about it, it probably will offend someone, or freak them out thinking I'm smoking, so I just don't do it.

I supposed if I get the urge to vape publicly somewhere, like a restaurant, I will ask the server or an employee if it be ok. I'd explain to them what it was and make sure they don't have a policy against it. If another person nearby starts complaining, I'll stop immediately. I won't try to argue how safe it is, and how's it's not a cigarette. As far as I know, it hasn't been proven that there is no such thing as, or danger of "second hand" vapor. So I won't force my bad habits on anyone else's health and body.

I see a few people here on ECF, who think they have the right to vape publicly indoors, because there isn't any legal law that bans it. It's just a respect thing with me. I've had to step out for a smoke for many years, so it's not really a huge inconvenience for me. I do love the fact I can vape in my own home without stinking up the joint, and I'm sure my freinds and family appreciate they don't have to smell the cigarette smoke on my clothes anymore. But I don't think I have any right to vape publicly. It's a privilege, not a right. IMO

 

[mariahpoo]

When there becomes a nationwide ban on vaping anywhere that smoking isn't allowed you can thank the people who vape everywhere trying to get reactions from people so they can "educate" them or because they can't wait a few minutes until they get outside or to their car. All it takes is a few complaints and it gets banned. Then if you try to vape at work in the bathroom or a back room and get caught you get fired because it's illegal where before you would have probably only been told not to do it.

There are extremists that may be gung ho and rude about vaping. But I am just asking who vapes openly and who stealths and why. I am a very polite open vapor. I am not seeking reactions. But on the other hand I would love the opertunity to talk about vaping and/or recommend giving it a try.

Like I said in my other posts... I would never blow clouds of vape in someones face. I take my 510 everywhere, and if the vaping fancy hits and I am say in a store I will ask if its allowed. If it is then I am politely vaping. I have not so stealth stealth vaped (if that makes sense, takeing a pull openly but blowing the vape into my sleeve) so as no to bother others around me. And If its not allowed then sobeit. You know. Its no biggie to me. If they are band from indoor public venues, stores and such, then so be that too. Right now I enjoy vaping wherever it's allowed. I agree that just a few rude, obnoxious people could ruin it for everyone. But thats true with everything really.

I am just curious if its me... but you kinda come across as agitated in most of your posts.

 

[glowgirl]

I have been overdosing on Courage Wolf videos on Youtube so I want to say "I vape where I want, when I want and smack people who look at me funny" but the truth is I vape where the smokers hang out or I go stealth. At least stealth vaping makes me feel kinda bad ask.......ahem.

Yeah Courage Wolf!!

 

[mariahpoo]

Can't say 100% which side if the fence I'm on yet. I'm still very young at vaping, so I could change my views as time goes on. So far, I've been accustomed to going outside for a smoke wherever I was. Smoking indoors is banned in my state. You can't smoke in bars, clubs, casinos, restaurants, or anywhere. So it doesn't really bother me to go outside to vape. So far, I haven't vaped publicly indoors. The way I feel about it, it probably will offend someone, or freak them out thinking I'm smoking, so I just don't do it.

I supposed if I get the urge to vape publicly somewhere, like a restaurant, I will ask the server or an employee if it be ok. I'd explain to them what it was and make sure they don't have a policy against it. If another person nearby starts complaining, I'll stop immediately. I won't try to argue how safe it is, and how's it's not a cigarette. As far as I know, it hasn't been proven that there is no such thing as, or danger of "second hand" vapor. So I won't force my bad habits on anyone else's health and body.

I see a few people here on ECF, who think they have the right to vape publicly indoors, because there isn't any legal law that bans it. It's just a respect thing with me. I've had to step out for a smoke for many years, so it's not really a huge inconvenience for me. I do love the fact I can vape in my own home without stinking up the joint, and I'm sure my freinds and family appreciate they don't have to smell the cigarette smoke on my clothes anymore. But I don't think I have any right to vape publicly. It's a privilege, not a right. IMO

I agree. That is why I always ask. It has never bothered anyone around me when I do. And if It did (because of the "it looks like smoke then it must be") I would kindly explain that I am not smoking but that I will stop vaping it it is bothering them. As long as we are respectful to others then I see no harm.

 

[mariahpoo]

I have been overdosing on Courage Wolf videos on Youtube so I want to say "I vape where I want, when I want and smack people who look at me funny" but the truth is I vape where the smokers hang out or I go stealth. At least stealth vaping makes me feel kinda bad ask.......ahem.

Yeah Courage Wolf!!

Your post made me LOL!

 

[glowgirl]

It made me have to change my avatar! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Your post made me LOL!

 

[QusieQ]

I vape everywhere I smoked. If it is a nonsmoking venue I don't vape openly. I stealth or go to bathroom if I am "dying" for a hit. The only place I vaped where I never smoked is in my house.

 

[denali_41]

i vape all over the place ..
in planes but i choose a flavor that is almost non-detectable or just plain generic ie vanila and a PG only
in stores i am sure nobody is blatantly watching me when i do,

 

[Mr. Buttflakes]

I dont try to make it obvious when i vape in public or draw attension to myself. I had a job interview a few months back and walked being a nice day and not far from my house. Well I was right on time and walking up the sidewalk to the place I had the interview and a cop drove by as I was taking a pull off my riva and about broke his neck looking and slowed down like he was gonna pull over. That woulda caused me to be late for my interview and also to have my possible employers see me get interogated by the police outside their establishment woulda really sucked. So from that little scare I'm hesitant anymore.

 

[misplacedsooner]

i pretty much vape where i want or where my intelligence tells me its ok...most places. i dont usually vape in restaurants as im there stuffing my face with food. anywhere outside is fair game, i will not hang with the smokers to vape. i dont call it an e-cig, to me its nothing like a cig and dont want to associate it with one.

 

[erictho]

i just have to agree with other poster's choices to not vape with the smokers. i quit smoking because i didn't want to be exposed to the first or second hand smoke. so why would i go hang out in an area where i can catch a lungfull and have a dull pv flavor experience as a consequence? i'm at the point where second hand smoke makes me dizzy, so no.

 

[El Diablo Marrón]

I used to vape openly.. but being i live in a green friendly state.
And people use these pot pipes that look like eGo's.. I am sort of shy about puplic vaping now.

 

[fb305]

There are extremists that may be gung ho and rude about vaping. But I am just asking who vapes openly and who stealths and why. I am a very polite open vapor. I am not seeking reactions. But on the other hand I would love the opertunity to talk about vaping and/or recommend giving it a try.

Like I said in my other posts... I would never blow clouds of vape in someones face. I take my 510 everywhere, and if the vaping fancy hits and I am say in a store I will ask if its allowed. If it is then I am politely vaping. I have not so stealth stealth vaped (if that makes sense, takeing a pull openly but blowing the vape into my sleeve) so as no to bother others around me. And If its not allowed then sobeit. You know. Its no biggie to me. If they are band from indoor public venues, stores and such, then so be that too. Right now I enjoy vaping wherever it's allowed. I agree that just a few rude, obnoxious people could ruin it for everyone. But thats true with everything really.

I am just curious if its me... but you kinda come across as agitated in most of your posts.

I'm not agitated in most of my posts, I'm just simply trying to get my point across. I generally won't even post in a thread if I don't have a differing opinion or something new to add because I don't see the point in mirroring what's already been said by 20 other people. I was just stating my opinion to the question you asked and after all it is just my opinion and I don't expect everyone to agree with me. Actually I find a lot of threads on here completely boring so I don't even post much unless it's an interesting question to me or something I have a strong opinion about, which I thought your post was.

 

[LadyWeeps]

I tend to be a fence sitter on many issues, including this one. I never walked around JC Penney, the mall or the grocery store smoking a cigarette. It just didn't seem appealing to me to do so, therefore, I don't vape there either, stealth or not. I would consider stealthing in a movie theater if it wasn't too full. I do vape openly in my car with no regard to what others might think. A few months ago, I had to run out for something and my oldest daughter was visiting. She went for the ride with and not far from the house there was a car in front of me with two young guys in it. We got to the overpass and they pulled to the left to make the turn onto the highway. As I passed them, the one in the passenger seat was hanging out his window yelling something. I vaguely paid any attention but it perked my daughter's attention and she saw them pull back out and follow us. At the time, we had no idea what the deal was and they eventually went on their way. It wasn't until several days later that it dawned on me that they must have thought I was smoking some kind of dope pipe. :

 

[Anoob2]

I have to say when I'm out and about I vape openly. I have always stood out and attracted attention of those around me. I was a punk kid ha ha. I've grown up a bit and wear nicer stuff but still have a mohawk and my lips pierced. But what I learned is the more natural i act doing something the less people seem to notice or care. But that's just me and how I do it.

 

[KimberlyM]

I have to say that because I live in a state with a bunch of smoking Nazis that I don't vape all that openly. I know it is not the same as smoking. However, if one of them got it in their mind to ban I would hate to be the reason.