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Who doesn't clean their atomizers?

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  1. playerags

    playerags Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 10, 2009
    Brussels, Wisconsin
    I have read several posts on here about people who clean their atomizers and they only average 2 weeks before they die.
    I have never cleaned my atomizer and it's been going about six weeks. Still works well.
    I would like to know if their are other people out there who don't maintain their attys and how long they last .
     
  2. Darlene7

    Darlene7 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 4, 2009
    Fresno, CA
    What brand of e-cig do you smoke, what atomizer - just wondering
    Darlene
     
  3. dee5

    dee5 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 8, 2009
    Northwest Arkansas
    My first e-cig was an njoy npro and I cleaned it once with my Shark steamer. I used it everyday until I got my DSE901 which was probably for 2 1/2 months and it still works fine. I have never cleaned the atty on the 901 and have used it everyday for about 2 months and it works fine too. I probably don't vape as much as some others do since I still smoke, I would guess I use it the equivalent of 10 cigs a day? (I hope I haven't jinxed my attys now!!)
     
  4. playerags

    playerags Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 10, 2009
    Brussels, Wisconsin
    dse901, my wife and myself. Neither of us clean them. I bought some extra attys and have never used them. I did get one that came doa from TW.
     
  5. playerags

    playerags Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 10, 2009
    Brussels, Wisconsin
    The only reason I started this thread was because a dude with about 1000 posts said you can figure about 2 weeks with proper cleaning. I was like, huh?
     
  6. MoonMan

    MoonMan Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 12, 2009
    I have 901s, and I've tried cleaning every couple of days and not cleaning for extended periods - I haven't seen a difference.

    I did have a couple that decreased in vapor that I soaked in acid - that helped bring them back. I think they gummed up from all the different juices I was trying. Since then, I've found my one or two favorite juices and stuck with them, no cleaning and my usual atomizer is still going strong weeks later.

    I don't think cleaning does much, honestly - and I KNOW they can last a long time without it.
     
  7. YKruss

    YKruss Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 21, 2009
    Springfield, VA
    One atomizer (have 6 spares) with M402/401 using for one month without any cleaning and not even blowing the air thru it.
    And it's going and going and going... knock on wood just in case
     
  8. Nicotine

    Nicotine Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2009
    China
    Wish that was the case with me MoonMan.
    Tried everything to get them to work at full force like they do for about a day :( I use an ultra sound cleaning method for my contact lenses and was wondering if that might help.. Anyone tried this method?
    All my Ats taste like burning metal after cleaning and give very poor vapor.
    :evil: Im starting to remember how easy it was just to flick a lighter and inhale.
    I use a Janty kissbox and a Janty Dura-c and Johnson Creek Smoke Juice. (or not as is often the case)
     
  9. Angela

    Angela Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2009
    Hertfordshire, England
    To all of you saying you don't clean, do you mean that you don't even 'rest' it and let it drain out? or do you mean that you just don't boil/steam/pepsi bath/acid bath/denture clean/ultrasonic clean, etc?
     
  10. YKruss

    YKruss Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 21, 2009
    Springfield, VA
    Nada for my m402/401 atomizer
     
  11. surbitonPete

    surbitonPete Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2009
    North Yorkshire UK
    We are really trying to get to the bottom of how it is that some people have atomizers that last for months, some people swear it's because of their cleaning method but there are some who report atomizers lasting months with no cleaning at all.....it's a complete mystery. In my 5 months of vaping I have only had 'one' that lasted over two weeks and that was only for a couple more days.
     
  12. bard

    bard Moved On

    Mar 14, 2009
    DELETEME
    I don't perform any specific cleaning, just the basic "blow through" the atomiser every few days, then leaving it overnight to drain. I also tend to rotate between 2 or 3, and as yet, have had none fail in around 10 weeks (since I started vaping).
     
  13. makdevo

    makdevo Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 18, 2009
    Portland Oregon
    I have one njoy atty connected to a usb passthru powered by a external pwr sply. I drip it daily, morning, afternoon, evening when I am home.

    Never cleaned it, only "drain it" overnight. I have been using it since Feb 09. Always works!

    801 attys, different story. I lost one after one day, measures 75 ohms. I suspect bad solder. I can't blame use for that kind of failure. Poor quality.

    I have lost several 801 attys since March, all measure high resistance now. All have been replaced.

    I try not to rotate, I want to "see" a failure rate so I can begin to trouble shoot.

    I only use 2 types, Npro and 801:

    Npro, drip only(carts are too small). My "drip station" runs 5 volts at 1amp. This combo is great, nice warm vapor, full juice taste, easy to change flavors. I am working on a mod for a manual switch. Still using vacuum type usb passthru.

    801, use 3.7 volt batteries with mods or with USB, rarely use "cig battery". Drain over night, clean connections with microfibre cloth. Try not to drop them. Never let them run dry. For weeks now I am using manual switch type units. Got tired of battery cut off.

    Still trying to figure this stuff out.
     
  14. THICKFOG

    THICKFOG Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2009
    ATLANTA, GA.
    Seems like every time I clean an atomizer, it dies..
     
  15. Gemini

    Gemini Full Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2008
    Birmingham
    I used to clean some of them, but they didn't last much longer after i did, maybe a few days:(. Now i just drain them for 1/2 hour or so, i never cleaned my dse 901 atomizer and it lasted 6 months before i had to replace it.
     
  16. makdevo

    makdevo Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 18, 2009
    Portland Oregon
    Here is my take:
    Keep in mind the atty is nothing more than a filament connected across a power source (a simple coil)

    Lets examine the failure mode for a filament. There are only 2.
    Shorted or Open. Open can mean high resistance. In this case 5 ohms or above will no longer heat properly. The most common is open or high resistance, chances are this is most often the case.

    Of course there can be other issues like "clogged" or "flooded". Cleaning will help these issues. Nothing will help coil failure execept to replace the coil. For an 801 I don't see how that is possible. I can't get them apart and back together.

    Regarding carbon build up. The atty coil is intact and measures proper resistance, but the carbon coating on the filament prevents heat transfer. Under these circumstances, keep heating it and it will either open or start to burn off the coating. If you can't remove the coating the atty is defective. I have not experienced this type of failure yet. Mine are always resistance failures. Up to 75 ohms (should be between 3 - 4 ohms cold)

    When my atty acts up. The first thing I do is let it cool and check the coil resistance. Too high and there is nothing I can do, it is defective, must be replaced. No guess work, just replace and continue.

    Any one else see where I am wrong?
     
  17. joebgoodus

    joebgoodus Full Member ECF Veteran

    May 14, 2009
    Arkansas
    I have 3 NPROs.
    1 atty lasted 2 weeks.wo/cleaning
    the other 2 have been running for a month wo/cleaning.
    When ever the atty starts to make the gurgle sound.
    I remove the cart and draw on it till the sound goes away>(Killer Vapor that way)
     
  18. wanderlust

    wanderlust Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2009
    North Carolina, USA
    I don't clean mine but do ocassionally let them drain overnight. I used 1 janty atomizer 2 mos. every day, heavy vaping all day long. It's resting now because I got some from beci and wanted to give them a try. I do drop mine from time to time (by accident not as part of "cleaning") and so far they seem to have suffered little. 1 from beci died after about 2 weeks. Oh, these are for the pentstyle by the way.
     
  19. jim420

    jim420 Moved On

    Mar 18, 2009
    Tobacco State (NC)
    I essentially cannot clean my atty. I vape (mostly) a DSE601 pipe, and the atty in not accessible. In it's defense, it hasn't missed a lick. Goes about 2 days on a batt charge. It sounds like the atty's in the "cigarettes" are far less reliable. I don't know how good they are about warranty support, but it does have a years warranty. I guess I should count my blessings.
     
  20. poeticwomyn

    poeticwomyn Full Member

    Mar 10, 2009
    Missouri
    I have been using the same Njoy Ncig since Feb. I don't clean it , but when it is not in my hand I store it atomizer end down so the eliquid runs toward the cartridge. It seems to be working ok for me.
     
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