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wow... i will at least give a 2/3 wrap of 28 a try... been on 3/4 wrap for a few weeks.
funny, does everyone who vapes think about vaping innovations "well, it's worth a try.." or "can't knock it if you don't try it" ?
That thinking doesn't or didn't work out too well for some if it was controlled substances....heheh or certainly too much nic,
but when it comes to vapor production...?
3-4 years ago, who'd a thunk? 3-4 years from now what will it be like? (i guess that's a different thread)
funny, does everyone who vapes think about vaping innovations "well, it's worth a try.." or "can't knock it if you don't try it" ?
That thinking doesn't or didn't work out too well for some if it was controlled substances....heheh or certainly too much nic,
but when it comes to vapor production...?
3-4 years ago, who'd a thunk? 3-4 years from now what will it be like? (i guess that's a different thread)
Funny, I was just reading an '09 thread where poeple were questioning whether or not the screwdriver was the end all be all, or what things might come to be in the future. I remember how popular it was with all if it's clones to follow, I bet someone who reads this post will have to google screwdriver to see what it even is. LOL!
What ohm did you get? And what device are you using it on?
See that is what most people who haven't tried the 28g wire don't get.....the 28g wire is super responsive but it is a colder wire at lower watts, so you have to vape at 15 watts and higher for it to get really good. For example I have a 6 wrap coil around a 2.4 mm wick. I used 50mm of mesh to roll the wick. It is a 1 ohm coil. On the Cobra it is a pretty hot vape at 15.5 watts....since the wick I use isn't too thick and doesn't use a lot of mesh.
I am assuming you are using a mechanical device....Do you you know what voltage drop you're getting with your set up? For example with an unmodified Natural mod....with a 1 ohm coil you get less than 13 watts....but on a Poldiac you will be near 17 watts with the same coil. With a Provari v2 it will be 12 watts max.
If you provide more info about your set up maybe I and others can give you some recommendations....but for now you can try taking a wrap off the coil and see if you get a more responsive coil. You can also roll a new wick using less mesh...the thinner and less mesh in a wick = a hotter vape.
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Im actually using a provari. Running in between 4-4.2 volts. Currently the 5 wrap is giving me 1.3 ohms.
I probably wont be able to take another wrap off without getting an E2 error. Thats why I bought a mechanical to use my RBA on.
When you guys are doing a 0.7-1.0 ohm setup im guessing the response time is alot quicker? Seems like because of the amount of wraps and my thick mesh is causing it to be less responsive. Again, not sure if im correct.
This is with 500 ss mesh btw.
Rymarski....IF you really want to explore the 28g wire and low ohm set ups....you have to get a mechanical device....like you are already doing. Using a 32g, 30g, or 28g wire and making a low ohm coil on the Provari just isn't the same....you will find out soon enough.
Definitely you will have very good response times when you get a quality mechanical device....they don't have to be super expensive...GUS or PAPS for example. Some of the Chinese mods have a horrible votage drops like the Natural...but they can be modified to perform very well. You were vaping at 12.3 watts (probably less).....that is too low for 28g set up IMO. Again you will find out soon enough.
BTW you are correct regarding heat sink....use the amount of mesh you need to get good wicking....anymore and you might get too much heat sink.
Definitely you will have very good response times when you get a quality mechanical device....they don't have to be super expensive...GUS or PAPS for example. Some of the Chinese mods have a horrible votage drops like the Natural...but they can be modified to perform very well. You were vaping at 12.3 watts (probably less).....that is too low for 28g set up IMO. Again you will find out soon enough.
BTW you are correct regarding heat sink....use the amount of mesh you need to get good wicking....anymore and you might get too much heat sink.
Same here. I run an 18350 set up 80% of the time, and carry a 2 pack case of extra 18350's in my back pack or pocket. 2 batteries usually will get me through a day. The last two mods i purchased, i didnt even bother getting an 18650 tube
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yes, although the provari can do this 1.3 set-up, the 5 wraps of 28g can be a little slow. a 3/4 is quick and a 2/3 is fast. i would say if using the provari you might be better off with 30g.
a 2/3 wrap of 28g is potent, this comes in on my wicks at .06Ω. i vape this usually when i have had a few drinks on the weekend. for the most part i like a .08 on mechanical/
Using 1.1ohms / 3.8v on a Provari/Zap
Doing pretty well.... only go through 2 to 3 18350's a day.... LOL
Doing pretty well.... only go through 2 to 3 18350's a day.... LOL
Hell I popped 2 coils with a 3 wrap of 28g and went back to 4/3... that's hard enough.
I prewrap the coil and before i put the wick in it fires evenly... when i put the wick in, i get hot top wire. I think thats why my green juice sometimes gets some blackness at the bottom of the tank from that top hot spot... but if i keep juice up there (tilt) at least the vape is great.
Once in a while my coil will fire evenly but I cannot stand fiddling and fiddling...
I prewrap the coil and before i put the wick in it fires evenly... when i put the wick in, i get hot top wire. I think thats why my green juice sometimes gets some blackness at the bottom of the tank from that top hot spot... but if i keep juice up there (tilt) at least the vape is great.
Once in a while my coil will fire evenly but I cannot stand fiddling and fiddling...
when i checked a wick after changing coils, it had a black spot right where the top coil hits it.... i mean it turned the outer mesh at that one spot black black.
it is tricky, you need a battery that is almost dead. it is much harder on a fully charged battery for sure. the 3/4 is better imo as well. the 2/3 is to strong for the most part, but i do from time to time vape it,
do you think it matters if you leave a little tail at the top post? extend the resistance?
I twisted the 28 wire off at the post, 4/3 wrap, and it measured .6 .... amazing but a little too over the edge.
no, i think the resistance ends at the nut, the difference is in the diameter of wick. on my wick diameter a 3/4 wrap of 28g is .08, so your wick must be thinner.
Damn... now I'm gonna have to go buy a mechanical just to see if you guys are right.
Thanks
Thanks
thannks... i need a thicker pole to prewrap the wire on before i slide the wick in... and i can make a thicker wick too. I usually cut about 38mm width mesh so it fits easily.
I'll have to find a thicker drill bit or something .
I'll have to find a thicker drill bit or something .
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