:) Who sells up to quarter per ml high quality ejuices ?
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that was actually meant to respond to this
None of us know for 100% sure that bigger brands, other than MBV, don't use FW or similar cheaper flavors. You can't say that with a guarantee unless you work for them and know exactly what their ingredients are. You can take a guess, a wild guess, but on a complex blend - such as BB (as an example), that's all it'd be, a wild guess
Why I absolutely agree with the OP! And I'll get back to you on all those deals as soon as I can find liquids that can stock, mix, set up a web site and ship themselves with no human intervention involved. 
What on earth does being verified to buy and sell in the classifieds have to do with any of this? Is it tin foil hat time?
I am sure he means me because he does not like what I am saying
and he is reaching
just tactics Whatever
next it will be a spelling or grammar error that he will point out as if it means anything
To the OP.
You don't have a clue about the vaping business do you? Making and selling juice is the most space consuming, time consuming, labor intensive thing that any vape vendor does. If your not willing to pay for that service then you should DIY.
If you buy cheap juice, then that's exactly what you're going to get, CHEAP JUICE. The cigarettes you used to smoke were not cheap so why do you think the juice should be cheap.
And if you think it's expensive now, wait until they start taxing it. Good luck in your quest.
You don't have a clue about the vaping business do you? Making and selling juice is the most space consuming, time consuming, labor intensive thing that any vape vendor does. If your not willing to pay for that service then you should DIY.
If you buy cheap juice, then that's exactly what you're going to get, CHEAP JUICE. The cigarettes you used to smoke were not cheap so why do you think the juice should be cheap.
And if you think it's expensive now, wait until they start taxing it. Good luck in your quest.
if the OP wants to vape "cheap" juice, let him. who cares. plenty of people like cheap vendors.
OP: i'm not sure if you'll find exactly what fits your criteria, but i hope you do, and enjoy your vape
OP: i'm not sure if you'll find exactly what fits your criteria, but i hope you do, and enjoy your vape
you had me up until Lab Tested. Doesn't lab testing cost money?
Also, you have to take into account that people are CONSTANTLY trying to clone/copy juices or gear right out of the gate. I think a lot of the time, people aren't trying to sell recipes or sell it themselves, but still-- if a good copy recipe gets out, it will cut into business for people who's ADV is that flavor.
A lot of money goes into not just the making of that one particular juice, but also continually innovating and trying to come up with the next great vape. So you're ultimately also paying for the failures that a company has tried to perfect and decided to scrap.
I haven't found one that fits all of you that the Boyfriend (who's the vaper in the house) considers an ADV for less than 51 cents per mL.
On the flip side-- yes, it's annoying to have to try a lot of different juices until you find a solid rotation. Buy samples, do your research, make friends in the vape community, try to find a good B&M to taste different flavors in store, and swap/PIF non-winners often.
Also, you have to take into account that people are CONSTANTLY trying to clone/copy juices or gear right out of the gate. I think a lot of the time, people aren't trying to sell recipes or sell it themselves, but still-- if a good copy recipe gets out, it will cut into business for people who's ADV is that flavor.
A lot of money goes into not just the making of that one particular juice, but also continually innovating and trying to come up with the next great vape. So you're ultimately also paying for the failures that a company has tried to perfect and decided to scrap.
I haven't found one that fits all of you that the Boyfriend (who's the vaper in the house) considers an ADV for less than 51 cents per mL.
On the flip side-- yes, it's annoying to have to try a lot of different juices until you find a solid rotation. Buy samples, do your research, make friends in the vape community, try to find a good B&M to taste different flavors in store, and swap/PIF non-winners often.
If one can't be trusted enough to become verified, they clearly have nothing of importance to say. The nerve of some of these nonverifieds...
No I cannot spell
I just said you might point that out if you caught it somewhere
because its a tactic you might use if you don't have facts
I mean based on the way you are acting
Lab testing was intended as an option and I mentioned it Just because some do that. I looked into it and it is unreasonable to ask (assuming the supply is USP grade).
Cigarettes are taxed, and are an entirely different product. your cost of cigarettes is sunk cost.
I checked the Whois and other records. Nothing hidden. I will ask them about their source of nic.
I don't believe the member who this is most likely aimed at is specifically meaning to insult you, though you did insinuate that the conversation we were having, between us, was suspect, as if we had anything to gain from the discussion. If anything, the posts I submitted to this thread are here to give you an idea of realistic costs beyond just manufacturing, but also running a business too.
You may find a company that will sell lower than ECBlends or MBV, but unless they're managing to reduce their bottle costs well below the $0.15-$0.19 norm for bulk buys (which normally equates to 1,000-5,000 bottles at a time) and costs from flavors down to pennies, they're operating on thin margins and just trying to compete on price instead of quality which is never a good idea when it comes to something you're going to inhale or ingest.
You're asking for a bottle of e-liquid at a price point of, at the most, $3.75 per 15 ml (and $7.50 / 30ml or $12.50 / 50ml). Unfortunately, MBV, ECBlends and KillerJuice don't meet those pricing requirements and if you tack on shipping, the cost goes up $2-$6 more per order, depending on the method of shipping.
With an operating cost of of nearly $1.00 for a 15ml bottle based on my own pricing, which is bulk (though not to the tune of 1-5k bottles), an extra $2.75 isn't going to really do much for a business. Factor in adding a label to the bottle (another $0.10-$0.15), time spent mixing it properly (time = money) and any costs that are incurred to package your order, wages etc.
I'm not arguing the fact that you want to pay less, rather, that you need to be more realistic or DIY and find out pricing for yourself.
if the OP wants to vape "cheap" juice, let him. who cares. plenty of people like cheap vendors.
OP: i'm not sure if you'll find exactly what fits your criteria, but i hope you do, and enjoy your vape
Nope, nothing wrong with cheaper brands. I vape some myself on occasion. I wish the OP all the best and the best of luck, I just wish people would be more realistic in their pricing and factor in *everything* a business goes through instead of making a blanket statement on costs.
I have 2 Mt. Baker in my rotation (East Coast Tobacco and USA), and I did not like ECBlends (although some here love them) nor some of MBV. Killer eJuice - I ordered and its on its way, it seems to hit all the points.
The point of the thread was to find more vendors YOU LIKE, not to tell me what I should like...
I really do not understand why everyone is so upset about it.
The point of the thread was to find more vendors YOU LIKE, not to tell me what I should like...
I really do not understand why everyone is so upset about it.
Wizard Lab (FDA reg. facility) sells (RETAIL) 24mg/ml nic solution in PG or VG for 5 cents per ml. I do not know how much it costs to make flavoring, and it varies anyway.
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