Who uses xc-116 ceramic wick?

[NandyDC]

Wow Vapor thats a great work, looks really nice.

At first I really like the xc116 but then it makes me cough with every puff. Maybe later I will give it another shot to test it on the Ody.


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[Poppa D]

Wow Vapor thats a great work, looks really nice.

At first I really like the xc116 but then it makes me cough with every puff. Maybe later I will give it another shot to test it on the Ody.


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Take a piece of the XC116 over a dark clean surface and manipulate it for a short while, you will be surprised at how many particles it sheds.
It vapes insanely well, but those shedding particles are way to abundant.

 

[mwa102464]

The XC-116 is super in the original iAtty but in the Ody it doesnt work for me, just a different vape in the Ody, what are you other guys finding out ? I love using the XC-116 when I can but after using 3-4 coils and wicks with it in the Ody it is just way to harsh and I'm finding the newer fatter Silica is better then the XC-116, are any of you using the newer fatter Silca ? and have compared ?

 

[k3v1n]

What files was it you guys used to mod the ceramic, size etc.

Anyone use a dremmel ?

What bit did you use.

 

[par292]

i am curious about this wick, but dont want to order a huge amount, is there a way to just get a short length?

 

[Vaporologist]

Take a piece of the XC116 over a dark clean surface and manipulate it for a short while, you will be surprised at how many particles it sheds.
It vapes insanely well, but those shedding particles are way to abundant.

I've seen that mentioned before but I can't help myself but to question the relevancy Poppa... After the coil is made and the wick is placed in the ceramic, there is no manipulation of the wick while we are vaping. Also, the wick is wet while while we are vaping so no dry particles flying around. Kind of like a dirt road on a dry windy day vs. that same road on a windy day after a rain shower when the road becomes wet and muddy.

If there were any particles flying up while we are vaping, I suspect some of them would stick to the internal wall of the ODY mouthpiece as evidence. I have carefully examined my ODY mouthpiece a few times in between coil changes (even when I use to unbraid it) and have not found anything that would alarm me. Now, I'm not trying to convert everyone to using this wick, I'm simply suggesting that those who pre-treat it and use it properly should not have a reason for concern. Just my

 

[Para]

Take a piece of the XC116 over a dark clean surface and manipulate it for a short while, you will be surprised at how many particles it sheds.
It vapes insanely well, but those shedding particles are way to abundant.

I *can* manipulate it to produce particles; in fact I can make it shed like a mangy dog. lol

Here's my procedures:

Mod the ceramic so the 116 fits entirely into the slot (clearance for the knurled lock ring)
Place the 116 into the slot
Assemble

I've checked every time I replace it and have no particles in the Ody or the left over solution.
....just my experience.

 

[Para]

What files was it you guys used to mod the ceramic, size etc.

Anyone use a dremmel ?

What bit did you use.

I got a set of diamond bits from Harbor Freight....about $6 for 12 of all shapes and sizes. I use the 1/16" barrel shaped bit in my Dremel at the lowest speed. It cuts the ceramic really well so light pressure is all that's needed; pretty much let the weight of the bit itself. Use water to keep the bit cool and move the ceramic powder and is probably the easiest mod job I've ever done. Take it nice and slow and easy......

Cut the slot until the knurled ring has clearance over the 116. Do the same for both sides and the top....and then round off where the top slot meets the side slots. Once done there's no stress on the 116; just drops into place.

Now that replacement ceramics are available, I'd get a separate, complete ceramic "module" and mod that one. Then, you'll have it and the original and can choose which one you like. 116 isn't for everyone and the stock wick works REALLY well; but it's nice to have the option.

 

[Poppa D]

The Ody has arrived, and so have a lot of new people who are reading everything related to it.
XC116 "sheds like a dog" is accurate.
This is my simple logic:
Since it sheds particles they will mix into your liquid.
Those particles will be ingested when it's vaped.
To see some proof, Place any material in the mouthpiece that will filter the vapor, vape through it, then inspect that material.
Any wick used in the Ody suffers some abrasion its unavoidable, due to the adjustable mouthpiece.

People who develop a cough when using XC116 should reconsider using it. My 2 cents.

 

[Vaporologist]

i am curious about this wick, but dont want to order a huge amount, is there a way to just get a short length?

I would love to send you some but I've already sent some of mine to a couple of members to try and I didn't have too much to begin with... The minimum order from omega is 10 feet which is really not too much. If you'd like to, go ahead and order it directly from them and if you end up not liking using it, I'll just buy it off you no problem.

 

[par292]

i did just order 10 feet, ive heard so many good things i just have to try it...

 

[Rick.45cal]

Vaporologist, Your ceramic looks largely like mine. I have done both of mine, one with the diamond files, and the other with the Dremel 7144 diamond point bit (1/16" diameter). Dremel is quicker, but also at the risk of too much material removal, or if your not terribly coordinated, I would personally take the diamond file route, less chance of breaking the ceramic. both of mine work equally well, (insanely well I should add)

I will also mention that the Heat treated (hardened) nextel 312 doesn't shed the same as the unhardened product. MSDS sheets are available on the web, as well as the lab studies conducted on inhalation of the fibers (both hardened and unhardened) on lab rats. That being said, we aren't rats, and we all react differently. The information is readily available on the web, and should be appropriately researched by anyone who is interested in using it.

Poppa D wants us all to remember that anything that isn't certified as safe is always a risk. Nextel 312 was developed for NASA as heat shielding, there is LOTS of information regarding its testing on inhalation risks. It is exceptionally important for people to realize (especially those abroad searching for an available product like nextel) need to remember that most refractory ceramics, (including silica based products) can, and do cause silicosis and mesothelioma. Don't try something you DON"T KNOW! Do your research... or possibly suffer the consequences

 

[Poppa D]

I think I've tried all of the different wicks that have been discussed since the iAtty came out.
Original iAtty wick.
Nextel, ceramic and silicone.
Wire mesh.
The latest iAtty and Ody wick.
Some that I bought out of the UK.

As for the XC 116 it worked very well, it vapes, cleans, wicks very, very nicely. After a couple weeks of using it I started having coughing fits first thing in the morning. The coughing issues started turning into breathing issues. I stopped using it, and the issues subsided. Im convinced it was the Nextel wick. I'm not the only one who has commented on problems using it.

Its no concern to me what people use in their Odysseus. Anyone wanting to use it should know about it's particle shedding, and possible issues with it.

 

[NatureBoy]

Good enough for me, I won't use it. Thanks for sharing.

I am interested in the 312 though if it's safer to use.

 

[Rick.45cal]

I agree Poppa, I would have stopped too! Like I said we aren't lab rats It's why I try to stress that everyone do their research. It's not something that should be considered lightly.

 

[Rick.45cal]

Good enough for me, I won't use it. Thanks for sharing.

I am interested in the 312 though if it's safer to use.

Nextel 312 is the material that is used in xc 116. xc 116 is a size specification, Nextel 312 is the name of the ceramic fibers that make up the xc 116.

 

[sodapopinski]

So what im wondering now is, what wick are you currently using Poppa D?

 

[NatureBoy]

Nextel 312 is the material that is used in xc 116. xc 116 is a size specification, Nextel 312 is the name of the ceramic fibers that make up the xc 116.

Oh.. but one is hardened and the other isn't? Which specific model is the hardened one? Is it more difficult to work with?

 

[Poppa D]

So what im wondering now is, what wick are you currently using Poppa D?

I'm using the new Odysseus wick. After widening the channels on the Ody it works nicely with 2 strips of wick of equal length.

 

[Rick.45cal]

Oh.. but one is hardened and the other isn't? Which specific model is the hardened one? Is it more difficult to work with?

You have to do the "Heat Treating" yourself using a kiln, and firing it to their specifications to harden it. It's easy if you have access to a kiln. If you don't you would have to find someone to fire it in their kiln for you.