Who Watches the Watchmen

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Dr. Russell Fell

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Very critical Doc :) We have to remember that these movies are made for the masses to be "box office hits" and bring in a wide audience. It did a pretty decent job at that lol :)

then why bother making watchmen? why piss all over a great comic like that? that's why we have fast and curious tokyo drift, the driver, and saw 42. i just don't understand it.

also, i refuse to think the "masses" are this stupid. studio execs are far worse. case in point: what deadpool is going to be like in x-men origin. tom rothman is a jackass.
 

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Oh, lighten up. No film version of Moby **** has ever captured Melville's original. Film produces its own classics, it can't faithfully capture the classics of other genres. They showed the plot and story, and it was a very faithful version of that surface layer, give or take.

It was fun seeing the costumes in the flesh, seeing Dr Manhatten, Archie, Roarshach's "face", etc. A lot of the scenes were virtually comic panels come to life; Roarshach's expression as he's dragged away after being unmasked really stood out for me as an example.

And c'mon, you telling me you didn't feel a rush when you finally heard Roarshach shout "You're locked in here with me!" Or hearing Oz pronounce, "It's already done."
 

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Oh, lighten up. No film version of Moby **** has ever captured Melville's original. Film produces its own classics, it can't faithfully capture the classics of other genres. They showed the plot and story, and it was a very faithful version of that surface layer, give or take.

It was fun seeing the costumes in the flesh, seeing Dr Manhatten, Archie, Roarshach's "face", etc. A lot of the scenes were virtually comic panels come to life; Roarshach's expression as he's dragged away after being unmasked really stood out for me as an example.

And c'mon, you telling me you didn't feel a rush when you finally heard Roarshach shout "You're locked in here with me!" Or hearing Oz pronounce, "It's already done."

see, that's the problem. as a stand alone film, it was horrible. it was somewhat faithful, but in the most superficial ways possible. yes, surface layer. and that's all there is to the film.

i didn't think it was fun seeing characters i liked and a story, in all its intricacy within the comic book medium, being plastered on the big screen and being poorly played out by horrible actors to bad music in ridiculous, extended "bad ..." fight scenes.

i felt no such rush. i felt like i threw up in my mouth a little.
 

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So I am one of the people that got dragged to go see this movie. I am not into comic books and really did not think I'd like the movie. I mean the trailer looked interesting enough but all I could think is....it's almost 3 hours long!!! But being the great girlfriend I am I went without complaining. The end result? I loved it...I thought it was an awesome movie and surprisingly enough never looked at my watch once.
 

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Well, I suppose things can't please everyone. I did enjoy it quite a bit.

Leaford, I agree that using Doc Manhattan in place of aliens was way more logical.

But....fake aliens would have been hilarious.

i think that's the inherent problem. you shouldn't make a film to "please" anyone. you should be making a film because you think it's a good idea that should be furthered using the film medium. i don't care about seeing scenes that "are just like the comic book panels." i'm not a comic fetishist. i just care if the movie is just plain good in the sense of whether or not the film is somewhat tasteful, ie the creators have some sort of taste. i don't see that in watchmen. i see a guy, snyder, trying to please the fanboys. and i ain't a fanboy. also, snyder doesn't understand the difference between comic books and films, which is a HUGE mistake. to say that comics are "storyboards," or that comics somehow are cinematic in nature is short-sighted. that are certain things within the comic medium that can only be achieved within said medium, and the same can be said in film. that being said, snyder doesn't comprehend this difference and is trying, no, FORCING, a translation from one medium to another thinking it'll all work. and it doesn't. it's silly, awkward, and is poorly thought out in the grand scheme of things. i wouldn't mind a watchmen movie if it were done by someone that was, i don't know, competent and understood this clearly enough and tried to push the film medium the same way watchmen pushed the comic medium. but something is definitely lost in translation here. horribly so. and let's not mention the things snyder did add just because he thought it would be more "bad ..." and crowd pleasing. well, mr. snyder, i don't want nu metal ninja rorschach. i don't want dark knight owl. i don't want raver neon blue manhatten with a mule's wanger. and i sure as hell don't want whatever the hell that actress was trying to be in that awful costume. i just want a good film. is that too much to ask for?

better yet, i want people to know when to leave something well enough alone in its own medium and tell me as a fan of the book what i want. screw you, snyder, and screw you hollywood for not coming up with your own sh*t to desecrate.
 
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