I say to each his own. If you enjoy it then it serves a purpose for you. One thing that loved about wta the first time I tried it was the fuller feeling it gives in the throat and lungs.
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I'm not looking to get off it nor get off nicotine either but now that I'm stuck doing 24 mg that's probably good. Who knows maybe I'll put it down to 12 mg but doubt it. I chewed Nicorette 10 years and I tried the 2 mg but went back to 4mg. I remember a friend was picking things up at Costco for me and he accidentally on purpose bought me 2 mg. just an example of the righteous thinking of some people about what Im doing with my body, me myself mine. Without having much knowledge about the subject to boot. I agree it has an appropriate throaty feel, hit and good solid vaper going on in pg but not in VG. Not even in the cinnamon bun. Zero zip nada throat hit.
I was thinking that someone told me that pg particles are smaller than vg ones. It seems to me that I feel a quicker affect with the pg wta.
FYI WTA users. For the first since I have been ordering the DIY stuff is available 2 limit. Has this been going on lately?
I don't know, but it's been spoken about for many months. It's awesome that it's finally available. I got some of Vapelicious' DIY (X-Tra High WTA -- whatever that means) and I can say that it is proper, however, I can't say if I actually need it, cause I don't believe I do. For the sake of comparing and contrasting, it is interesting, though.
Vapeliscious is counting down to reopen (Try) his website for ordering for the 18th. Looking forward to seeing his other flavors. I have only tried Macaroon, Ventiene ( lime, ginger and lychee) tastes mostly lime but very nice and Resurrection Tea ( a complex Constant Comment type)
First time each juice I ordered from a vendor was a keeper. I'm confident to try again some things new!
First time each juice I ordered from a vendor was a keeper. I'm confident to try again some things new!
Faylool and snork,
Although MY first experience with WTA was the PG based "Beatle Juice" my main goto vape is VG based.
But you have me thinking now.
So, do you feel that WTA in PG is providing a superior vape and if so, why?
I realize that PG is the preferred base for all flavorings so can I assume that this is part of the equation?
I must admit I haven't done a side by side comparison on the PG versus VG based infused flavors but I will.
Although MY first experience with WTA was the PG based "Beatle Juice" my main goto vape is VG based.
But you have me thinking now.
So, do you feel that WTA in PG is providing a superior vape and if so, why?
I realize that PG is the preferred base for all flavorings so can I assume that this is part of the equation?
I must admit I haven't done a side by side comparison on the PG versus VG based infused flavors but I will.
I think PG is a better carrier. I have a few VG/WTA juices that I enjoy, but I suck on them like a pacifier. My PG based ones I can put down.
And you know me, vaping is all about the feel. A PG/WTA throat hit is more satisfying and enjoyable for me. VG mutes that.
And you know me, vaping is all about the feel. A PG/WTA throat hit is more satisfying and enjoyable for me. VG mutes that.
Thanks snork. That was kinda the response I anticipated so will give it another whirl tonight.
Even though my preference is VG (too much PG gives me a sore throat) a little PG WTA never hurt anyone, right!?
I still have some DIY and PG based Beatle Juice so I'll have few toots tonight and maybe an extra toot for you
Even though my preference is VG (too much PG gives me a sore throat) a little PG WTA never hurt anyone, right!?
I still have some DIY and PG based Beatle Juice so I'll have few toots tonight and maybe an extra toot for you
It's the throat hit ability factor for me too but sometimes the throat hit isn't all that much soooo I ordered Clove this time with the DIY stuff ( my first for that). I assume the clove is a tobacco base, another first. Feels like regressing but I'll never smoke again.
I asked how to muse the DIY stuff and haven't heard yet. I want to understand before I get it Anybody have a recipe of some sort? I under stand we don't really know how much WTA is in there and I saw it was 20 mg. that mean 20mg nicotine? Oh well. I'll just drip it and evaluate that for myself anyway. The body speaks
I asked how to muse the DIY stuff and haven't heard yet. I want to understand before I get it Anybody have a recipe of some sort? I under stand we don't really know how much WTA is in there and I saw it was 20 mg. that mean 20mg nicotine? Oh well. I'll just drip it and evaluate that for myself anyway. The body speaks
Well got the conformation that my shipment of WTA juice should be on the way. I'm going to try Beetlejuice, GI Joe and the P38, all aroma blend so it's all gonna be PG based. The owner is one fantastic guy. I got to speak with him on the phone and made the above suggestions. Explained that I can't do a high VG content so he said he would fix me up personally. Now that is great customer service.
The body speaks is right!
I'm pretty sure the 20mg refers to nicotine content. I think it would be best to ask about WTA content in the supplier's subforum so he can have the opportunity to contribute, without his input we're forced to make assumptions.
So far my WTA recipe is inexact. For me it doesn't take much, anywhere from a few drops to a dropperful in 10ml of liquid, and actually kind of depends on how much I'm willing to dilute the base flavor. It seems that adding "some" WTA is sufficient for me and I'm not hung up about measurements.
Watch out with the clove. Clove is super potent clove flavor and I think you'd better like clove if you experiment with it. I like clove, but only for a novelty vape.
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The information regarding WTA percentage could also be posted on his website for people that are not privy to the supplier's subforum or for those not on ECF. That way, anyone who is interested in the product could have access to the information when thinking of buying.
p.s. Or, if he has or will post about his percentage of WTA, someone could just link to it here. That will at least allow more people to know, though the website is still the best place IMO.
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Oh well shoot! I didn't read those two posts above my post I just carefully spell checked and cleaned up. What is sub forum? Would that be his Radio Show? I can't load music so I never read it. So this info isn't on there. I did do a search but my question didn't come up. I'll call him after the Holiday and post what he says if he doesn't see this. Basically just need the recipe To DIY with it. So sorry I didn't notice the new posts which do help. Maybe to "need" or "want" is all there is to it but since there 24mg. Nic Aroma with PG flavors were getting the job done I wanted to know. Well see.
@Faylool, you are saying that you consumed WTA/nic juice sublingually? Ingesting eliquid is ill advised and that is not what eliquid is for. If you ("you" meaning anyone reading this) feel whole tobacco alkaloids are needed but you can't seem to get it efficiently from vaping WTA, Snus would be the absolute best option short of smoking.
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Aroma Clove gets a thumbs up for flavor and a thumbs sideways for throat hit. I expected great throat hit but it's not there much. It's ok. I'd buy it again. So that makes Pineapple, Pomogranite, Maholo, Creme Brûlée, Clove, Bandana (Banana) a sure thing and Pear if I mix it with Pineapple which actually test better to me than just Pineapple alone. The DIY is good by itself except too much VG. I'm going to request all pg next time. But I must be lucky enough to see it available!
The good part about all this WTA analysis and thinking out loud on ECF and putting things in to words I own my vaping experience more. It's become a part of me finally and I see I am vaping a whole lot less than when I started. I attribute part of that to WTA and part of that to not actually being in love with any of the flavors that much. Vapeliscious definitely had me vaping twice as much on 3 different flavors! He's the best for flavor so far. It was also my first mod at the same time (Vamo) and I'm sure if I ever get more of his flavors I will be less aggressive using it. Time to savor the experience. I could have never said I savored Kools this much and definitely I didn't savor Nicorette gum. Im happy
The good part about all this WTA analysis and thinking out loud on ECF and putting things in to words I own my vaping experience more. It's become a part of me finally and I see I am vaping a whole lot less than when I started. I attribute part of that to WTA and part of that to not actually being in love with any of the flavors that much. Vapeliscious definitely had me vaping twice as much on 3 different flavors! He's the best for flavor so far. It was also my first mod at the same time (Vamo) and I'm sure if I ever get more of his flavors I will be less aggressive using it. Time to savor the experience. I could have never said I savored Kools this much and definitely I didn't savor Nicorette gum. Im happy
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Anything is better than the analogs. I'll try anything onece or twice. Maybe even for a while to get off them.
I had the pleasure of speeking with Jerry myslef. My juice is made for what I really need. I have COPD and he was so kind as to specail blend the mx I need. Fantastic person to do business with. Now if USPS will just come through for me.
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