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Yeah, marriage has funny ways of manifesting itself. Sorry DVap, it won't grow back.
Who's growing this year?
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Yeah, marriage has funny ways of manifesting itself. Sorry DVap, it won't grow back.
I may try this:
Flower heads are bagged for seed production. They are covered before the flowers open in order to maintain purity of the variety. For production of leaf, however, the plants are topped and later suckered as required.
Interesting. Simple. I read that tobacco can be self pollinating even just a single plant.
Since its put on before opening, you cant use a brush or Q tip to go from flower to flower on the head. Wonder how that works?
Topping the plants also raises nicotine content in the leaves. Upper leaves gaing the most.
Nice to have you back DVap.
Since its put on before opening, you cant use a brush or Q tip to go from flower to flower on the head. Wonder how that works?
Topping the plants also raises nicotine content in the leaves. Upper leaves gaing the most.
Nice to have you back DVap.
Forgot to mention, all 4 pots have now sprouted at the one week mark.
The Cuban Hiltonia was 1st, Rustica, Cuban and finally the Virginia.
Hiltonia is abt 3/8" tall and looks like every seed germinated.
Rustica is abt 1/4" tall and both of these have nice primary leaves.
The other 2 are up, green and leaves are coming fast now.
The Cuban the cat knocked over made it, but all the sprouts are on one side.
Nothing critical.
The wife has now found all this, microwaving the potting soil, new equipment I've gotten, packages arriving and going every day almost......lol
She has told me any gov 3 letter agency that knocks on the door.....she is denying anything and letting them have me. hahahahaha
Some strange comment abt "for better or worse" doesnt include jail time?
The Cuban Hiltonia was 1st, Rustica, Cuban and finally the Virginia.
Hiltonia is abt 3/8" tall and looks like every seed germinated.
Rustica is abt 1/4" tall and both of these have nice primary leaves.
The other 2 are up, green and leaves are coming fast now.
The Cuban the cat knocked over made it, but all the sprouts are on one side.
Nothing critical.
The wife has now found all this, microwaving the potting soil, new equipment I've gotten, packages arriving and going every day almost......lol
She has told me any gov 3 letter agency that knocks on the door.....she is denying anything and letting them have me. hahahahaha
Some strange comment abt "for better or worse" doesnt include jail time?
Congrats! The time approaches when you check the plants everyday and wonder to yourself, 'Why are these damn sprouts so lazy? They sit and do nothing. They do not die. They do not grow. WTF?"
AFTER they have finished laying their roots, only then will yo baccy plants 'get busy.'
.....but it does sound kinda criminal..........Had a lot of buddies doing the same years back. I don't 'member 'em growing 'baccy, though.Good job all. Nice threat you started WerkIt. I feel I'm standing in the field with you. .....well, not really Vaporer, he's back in a clearing deep in the brush.....shhh
.This is a good thread and I can see it having its own sub section by fall.
Growing, curing, processing for snus & snuff techniques, flavoring, grinding, making portions, storage......on and on.
I used the nice day Sat to prep the mower. Not a small one for a 6 acre yard. Gave it a test run on cutting the front yard. Blades need their 1st of the yr sharpening. My son and I drove around picking up all the downed branches and I was able to scope out my growing areas. Since 600-800ft easily is along the creek I sould have good moist soil there all summer long. I read for months like a dry Aug, they get a lot of water from morning dew on the leaves. So, I cant get under the canopy of the trees along the creek to far. This is also the south side of an East-West tree line so they will get full sun. The one Havana(cuban)(cat assisted) actually recommends partial shade. No problem there. Its a long leaf for wrapping cigars. Of course I dont have have Cuban soil or weather, but the results should be interesting.
When I use to garden I went with French intensive methods. Plastic on the ground, close planted and things like runner beans were planted with corn and grew up the stalk.
The idea was to get as much as possible from a small area. tobacco is recommended 2-3' apart. Since I'll have abt 10 plants of each, I figure 4 straight lines(not side by side), peel the sod away(an 18 yr old son works well here) and condition the soil prior to transferring. Then a strip of plastic and plant each plant in a hole poked(or an X cut) through the plastic. This eliminates abt all weeding. So its a low maint thing for us lazy people. The soil can dry out due to covering to much area around the plants base, but near the creek...shouldnt be a problem. Neighbors have cows and horses. I dont think they jail for poo theft in Ohio. Shotguns and rock salt still are a collecting hazard! 8-o
WertIt,
Yea they just all look stalled now. I read they do that while as the root base develops and takes a week or 2 after transplanting for them to get going. Keep the info coming! All is appreciated.
I decided to remove the Saran wrap cover now as there seems to be no new germinating seeds. Most recommend it at this stage to prevent plant rot and disease.
The soil appeared to be dryer, so I set some water out in a lagre shallow cake pan to let it dechloinate and then set the pots in for a while to water from the bottom.
Our weather is back to 50 in the day and 30's at night. Cloudy...naturally so its back to the flouresent light now. This Sat is supposed to be sunny and 80! They go outside
for air and sun that day.
Poor wife always just walked by shaking her head with all my electronic and micro model stuff, growing things and not smelling of cig smoke since last July has raised her concerns, curiosity levels......lol
She was an elementary teacher for yrs and now a guidence counsler. So....she treats me as most teachers do their husbands like a child. She wants to know everything I do, wheather she understands it or not, gets very quizical and whatever she thinks she knows or decides is now the truth in her mind. Arguing or explaining at this point is useless. Years of experience will back this. I may put a lock on the door just to drive her more crazy.......
Growing, curing, processing for snus & snuff techniques, flavoring, grinding, making portions, storage......on and on.
I used the nice day Sat to prep the mower. Not a small one for a 6 acre yard. Gave it a test run on cutting the front yard. Blades need their 1st of the yr sharpening. My son and I drove around picking up all the downed branches and I was able to scope out my growing areas. Since 600-800ft easily is along the creek I sould have good moist soil there all summer long. I read for months like a dry Aug, they get a lot of water from morning dew on the leaves. So, I cant get under the canopy of the trees along the creek to far. This is also the south side of an East-West tree line so they will get full sun. The one Havana(cuban)(cat assisted) actually recommends partial shade. No problem there. Its a long leaf for wrapping cigars. Of course I dont have have Cuban soil or weather, but the results should be interesting.
When I use to garden I went with French intensive methods. Plastic on the ground, close planted and things like runner beans were planted with corn and grew up the stalk.
The idea was to get as much as possible from a small area. tobacco is recommended 2-3' apart. Since I'll have abt 10 plants of each, I figure 4 straight lines(not side by side), peel the sod away(an 18 yr old son works well here) and condition the soil prior to transferring. Then a strip of plastic and plant each plant in a hole poked(or an X cut) through the plastic. This eliminates abt all weeding. So its a low maint thing for us lazy people.
The soil can dry out due to covering to much area around the plants base, but near the creek...shouldnt be a problem. Neighbors have cows and horses. I dont think they jail for poo theft in Ohio. Shotguns and rock salt still are a collecting hazard! 8-oWertIt,
Yea they just all look stalled now. I read they do that while as the root base develops and takes a week or 2 after transplanting for them to get going. Keep the info coming! All is appreciated.
I decided to remove the Saran wrap cover now as there seems to be no new germinating seeds. Most recommend it at this stage to prevent plant rot and disease.
The soil appeared to be dryer, so I set some water out in a lagre shallow cake pan to let it dechloinate and then set the pots in for a while to water from the bottom.Our weather is back to 50 in the day and 30's at night. Cloudy...naturally so its back to the flouresent light now. This Sat is supposed to be sunny and 80! They go outside
for air and sun that day.
Poor wife always just walked by shaking her head with all my electronic and micro model stuff, growing things and not smelling of cig smoke since last July has raised her concerns, curiosity levels......lol
She was an elementary teacher for yrs and now a guidence counsler. So....she treats me as most teachers do their husbands like a child. She wants to know everything I do, wheather she understands it or not, gets very quizical and whatever she thinks she knows or decides is now the truth in her mind. Arguing or explaining at this point is useless. Years of experience will back this. I may put a lock on the door just to drive her more crazy.......
Seedlings are doing well. Well, all but one. WerkIt mentioned that Virginia was the slowest to come up. I only had 3 start from 12 seeds. All the others were abt 100% germination. Started another Virgina starter pot Sunday. It is the tallest of the strains so should have the most weight. Hate to lose that option and 3 starters is low since I'm assuming a 50% loss from tranplanting.
1st yr is always unpredictable...............................
1st yr is always unpredictable...............................
An interesting tid bit for those growing.
"The whole "air-cured" thing is way overblown. American tobacco used to be cured in barns using propane gas heaters exposing the tobacco to the exhaust gases and starving the tobacco from oxygen which raised the TSNA levels in the tobacco. When they switched to heat exchangers to shield the tobacco from the exhaust gases the TSNA levels of flue cured tobacco dropped to levels comparable to air cured.
"
Seems regular air or sun cured is the way to go for low TSNA's
"The whole "air-cured" thing is way overblown. American tobacco used to be cured in barns using propane gas heaters exposing the tobacco to the exhaust gases and starving the tobacco from oxygen which raised the TSNA levels in the tobacco. When they switched to heat exchangers to shield the tobacco from the exhaust gases the TSNA levels of flue cured tobacco dropped to levels comparable to air cured.
"
Seems regular air or sun cured is the way to go for low TSNA's
I just got my seeds in today, will plant them in little containers this weekend.
I got
Mohawk Ceremonial (Nicotiana Rustica)
Scherazi Tobacco (Nicotiana Tobaccum)
Giant Variegated Tobacco (Nicotiana)
I got
Mohawk Ceremonial (Nicotiana Rustica)
Scherazi Tobacco (Nicotiana Tobaccum)
Giant Variegated Tobacco (Nicotiana)
Good selection from what I read Dg.
Just drop them on the wet soil and cover with saran wrap.
Keep them abt 70-75* and in 3-4 days they look like a small fungus ball, 2 days later green sprout with 2 leaves.
Dont bury them. Sounds weird......I know. The humidity and tem germinate them.
Once up, water from the bottom , remove the saran wrap and they are off.
I lost a few due to the droplets falling back on the sprouts, they rotted just like the instructions said! lol
Just drop them on the wet soil and cover with saran wrap.
Keep them abt 70-75* and in 3-4 days they look like a small fungus ball, 2 days later green sprout with 2 leaves.
Dont bury them. Sounds weird......I know. The humidity and tem germinate them.
Once up, water from the bottom , remove the saran wrap and they are off.
I lost a few due to the droplets falling back on the sprouts, they rotted just like the instructions said! lol
TV, most are an inch to 1 1/2". Second set of leaves have started. Still real spindly looking. I let mine get a bit dry and left the "cover" on a bit long.
I started another 2 pots and just sprinkled on top the covered. They should be starting up by Wed. 2 of the pots did real well from the start.
Not burying the seeds seems weird. It works ..........
I started another 2 pots and just sprinkled on top the covered. They should be starting up by Wed. 2 of the pots did real well from the start.
Not burying the seeds seems weird. It works ..........
Hey WerkIt, where'd you go? You've done this before don't toss the torch to me!
Ok, observation time.
If your seedling falls over its dead. Doesnt seem to matter what the cause is. Leaving the cover on to long and water dripping back on the little things, to high a humidity from the cover on to long or forgetting to water them.
I just watered mine in their 4" starter homes. The green thing you get annuals in each yr.
I save everything for reuse.
Seems mine need watered 2 times a week. I've been sitting them in a large basin of water so they can get saturated soil from the bottom. Thats what I read was recommended. When I just went in more had keeled over and the soil was dryer.
Temps are going up overall now and more evaporation is taking place. The once a week is not getting it now.
Once transplanted outside, I read where they can survive long dry spells just from the morning dew that settles on the leaves.
Want pics?
End report
Ok, observation time.
If your seedling falls over its dead. Doesnt seem to matter what the cause is. Leaving the cover on to long and water dripping back on the little things, to high a humidity from the cover on to long or forgetting to water them.
I just watered mine in their 4" starter homes. The green thing you get annuals in each yr.
I save everything for reuse.
Seems mine need watered 2 times a week. I've been sitting them in a large basin of water so they can get saturated soil from the bottom. Thats what I read was recommended. When I just went in more had keeled over and the soil was dryer.
Temps are going up overall now and more evaporation is taking place. The once a week is not getting it now.
Once transplanted outside, I read where they can survive long dry spells just from the morning dew that settles on the leaves.
Want pics?
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