Why 30-50 watts if 8 will do?

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junkfixr

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I moved from a starter kit to an MVP2 (iClear 30) and now a pro tank mini II and I'm getting an o.k. vape. Of course, you can never experiment enough or have enough vapor or flavor right?

I'm just wondering what the hype is over the higher wattage devices? If your wick/tank can't deliver enough juice, it seems like burnt hits would be the result. What am I missing?

Somehow I'm thinking I could save a lot of time and frustration by just getting a Reo Mod. The initial investment is steep but it seems like money saved in the long run. The alternative seems to be Stingray (clone) Kayfun (clone) batteries, charger, more money, more money....plus some headache and frustration during the learning curve.
 

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I have a Dna 30 and I don't get burnt hits when vaping at a higher wattage. I use a RDA and make my own coils. If I was using a standard coil, then yes I would imagine you would get burnt hits vaping at a higher wattage . But this is NOT the case when you make your own coils and wicks. I like a nice warm vape with lots of flavor, this is why I vape at higher wattages. Hope this helps you understand a bit better. I never get burnt hits and get a lot of flavor with higher wattages. But in order to successfully vape at higher wattages you must build your own coils and use a good rda or rba. Hope this helps.
 

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Finding the best vaping setup for you can be described as a journey. Until you've had the opportunity to experience each setup to judge their merits, never say never. Sometimes its not the final destination, but the entire journey experience which is most satisfying and educational.

Clearomizers are simple devices which are easy to fill and easy to change their replacement coils. However, the majority of them leak, give dry hits, mute flavors, and basically are inconsistant. Too fussy and undependable for me.

For nearly two years I have been very happy using a standard resistance cartomizer in a cartotank on a Provari. I thought, who needs high wattage vaping or sub-ohm coils on a mechanical mod? After all, I'm a simple vaper and not a tinkering type of person. I just want a simple vape.

I bought a bottom feeding box mod (not a Reo), but it wasn't for me. I change flavors too much during the course of the day, and a bottom feeder mod is more appropriate for someone who has a All Day Vape.

Out of curiosity from all the hype about RBA's, I gave a genesis-style RBA tank a nice shot. It wasn't for me. It was not user friendly, leaked if not kept upright, required tilting it horizontal to wick adequately, and required the use of stainless steel mesh wicks which were too difficult for me to prepare properly. Too many con's and not enough plus's. I returned to using my trusty cartotanks for a while.

Then someone gifted me a Kayfun-style rebuildable RBA tank a couple of months ago. It's a cartotank on steroids. A 1.3 - 1.5 ohm coil gives a better performance than a cartotank on a mech/regulated mod.

Out of more curiosity, I decided to bring my old mechanical mods out from the storage drawer and try a rebuildable dripper at sub-ohm (0.6 ohms), and it has been an eye-opening experience. A wide open airy draw, excellent flavor and superior vapor production. Yet even at that wattage its a cooler vape like I prefer. Night and day experience.

I visit a high-end neighborhood vape shop frequently and have had the opportunity to try friends' high-wattage regulated DNA-type mods with a rebuildable dripper on top. They also give a very nice, cool, flavorful vape with superior vapor production.

So vaping has been an interesting journey for me. I still use and enjoy my cartotanks. I still use and enjoy my KFL. I still use and enjoy my RDA's. I love them all, and they all provide a different vaping experience. I do not consider myself a "cloud chaser" per se, but I do enjoy more vapor. It's all about learning how to properly set up each juice delivery device to perform at its best. You can learn to set up a high wattage or sub-ohm setup and still have a cool, flavorful, vapor-producing experience -- it all depends upon how you set up your builds. You can probably enjoy a ego setup too, but having experienced the above I would always know there is something better out there.

Factory-made coils and wicks can only be used within a certain voltage/wattage range. However, when you make your own coils with heavier-gauge Kanthal wire along with a larger volume of wick material, you can increase the voltage/wattage for much better flavor and vapor production. Using sub-ohm coils with a high amp battery in a mech or a higher-wattage DNA regulated mod can provide the necessary power to fire these home-made coils and wicks.

So to wrap this up, never say never until you've had the opportunity to try something out for yourself. If what you currently use works for you, then be happy with it. But know that vaping is a changing technology and improvements are happening at an incredible rate.
 
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I'm just wondering what the hype is over the higher wattage devices? If your wick/tank can't deliver enough juice, it seems like burnt hits would be the result. What am I missing?

You are correct. IF you are vaping at higher wattage you need a RTA/RDA that is capable of wicking and holding enough juice. There are some RTA's/RDA's that are capable of doing this.
 

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It allows low ohm enthusiast to get the consistent vape of a regulated device. Without being limited to a 1.2 ohm coil as with a regulated device. If your a dripper there's no problem keeping the coil wet, but some tanks lag a bit. A Reo is a great mech mod. I have a VV Reo and it's as good as it gets. I say this being an owner of 2 Provari and a dozen tanks. The problem is Reo no longer makes a VV Reo, but you can put a Kick in them. That will reduce the size battery you can use, but Reo plans to release a Reo designed to be used with The Kick. We'll have to wait to see if it will be an 18650 battery. I don't low ohm, because I found my sweet spot to be at about 1.5 ohm at 3.9 v. I can hit that with any mod out there, so they'll need to offer more than increased power to attract my dollars.
 
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I know it's subjective and I'm painting with a wide brush here, but which rebuildable/tank seems to do it for you?


Best bet to find out which one for you personally delivers is to buy a few different clones. Once you find the one you like, you can buy the real one if you want. Or you can stick with the clones.
 

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I know it's subjective and I'm painting with a wide brush here, but which rebuildable/tank seems to do it for you?

For me I like my Fogger v4.4 (for a tank) and my Magma clone by Infinite (for a dripper). Both give me as much (or as little) airflow as I want - and I like it airy.
 
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Finding the best vaping setup for you can be described as a journey. Until you've had the opportunity to experience each setup to judge their merits, never say never. Sometimes its not the final destination, but the entire journey experience which is most satisfying.

Clearomizers are simple devices which are easy to fill and easy to change their replacement coils. However, the majority of them leak, give dry hits, mute flavors, and basically are inconsistant. Too fussy and undependable for me.

For nearly two years I have been very happy using a standard resistance cartomizer in a cartotank on a Provari. I thought, who needs high wattage vaping or sub-ohm coils on a mechanical mod?

I bought a bottom feeding box mod (not a Reo), but it wasn't for me. I change flavors too much during the course of the day, and a bottom feeder mod is more appropriate for someone who has a All Day Vape.

Out of curiosity from all the hype about RBA's, I gave a genesis-style RBA tank a nice shot. It wasn't for me. It was not user friendly, leaked if not kept upright, required tilting it horizontal to wick adequately, and required the use of stainless steel mesh wicks which were too difficult for me to prepare properly. Too many con's and not enough plus's. I returned to using my trusty cartotanks for a while.

Then someone gifted me a Kayfun-style rebuildable RBA tank a couple of months ago. It's a cartotank on steroids. 1.5 ohm coil on either a Provari or mech mod gives a better performance than a cartotank on a mech/regulated mod.

Out of more curiosity, I decided to bring my old mechanical mods out from the storage drawer and try a rebuildable dripper at sub-ohm (0.6 ohms), and it has been an eye-opening experience. A wide open airy draw, excellent flavor and superior vapor production. Yet even at that wattage its a cooler vape like I prefer. Night and day experience.

I visit a high-end neighborhood vape shop frequently and have had the opportunity to try friends' high-wattage regulated DNA-type mods with a rebuildable dripper on top. They also give a very nice, cool, flavorful vape with superior vapor production.

So vaping has been an interesting journey for me. I still use and enjoy my cartotanks. I still use and enjoy my KFL. I still use and enjoy my RDA's. I love them all, and they all provide a different vaping experience. I do not consider myself a "cloud chaser" per se, but I do enjoy more vapor. It's all about learning how to properly set up each setup to perform at its best. You can learn to set up a high wattage or sub-ohm setup and still have a cool, flavorful, vapor-producing experience. You can probably enjoy a ego setup too, but having experienced the above I would always know there is something better out there.

Factory-made coils and wicks can only be used within a certain voltage/wattage range. However, when you make your own coils with heavier wire along with a larger volume of wick material, you can increase the voltage/wattage for much better flavor and vapor production. Using sub-ohm coils with a high amp battery device can provide the necessary power to fire these home-made coils and wicks.

So to wrap this up, never say never until you've had the opportunity to try something out for yourself. If what you currently use works for you, then be happy with it. But know that vaping is a changing technology and improvements are happening at an incredible rate.


Wow , what a great post . Thanks and i'm not even the OP.
 

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Everytime I think I have a combination that is perfect....I find something I like better. Right now im in my happy place with a .7 ohm build in my magma sitting on my brass cartel mech mod. Im planning on waiting a little longer before buying 30w+ regulated device, but I have no doubt that I will find my next best vape when I get my hands on one.

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Finding the best vaping setup for you can be described as a journey. Until you've had the opportunity to experience each setup to judge their merits, never say never. Sometimes its not the final destination, but the entire journey experience which is most satisfying.

Clearomizers are simple devices which are easy to fill and easy to change their replacement coils. However, the majority of them leak, give dry hits, mute flavors, and basically are inconsistant. Too fussy and undependable for me.

For nearly two years I have been very happy using a standard resistance cartomizer in a cartotank on a Provari. I thought, who needs high wattage vaping or sub-ohm coils on a mechanical mod?

I bought a bottom feeding box mod (not a Reo), but it wasn't for me. I change flavors too much during the course of the day, and a bottom feeder mod is more appropriate for someone who has a All Day Vape.

Out of curiosity from all the hype about RBA's, I gave a genesis-style RBA tank a nice shot. It wasn't for me. It was not user friendly, leaked if not kept upright, required tilting it horizontal to wick adequately, and required the use of stainless steel mesh wicks which were too difficult for me to prepare properly. Too many con's and not enough plus's. I returned to using my trusty cartotanks for a while.

Then someone gifted me a Kayfun-style rebuildable RBA tank a couple of months ago. It's a cartotank on steroids. 1.5 ohm coil on either a Provari or mech mod gives a better performance than a cartotank on a mech/regulated mod.

Out of more curiosity, I decided to bring my old mechanical mods out from the storage drawer and try a rebuildable dripper at sub-ohm (0.6 ohms), and it has been an eye-opening experience. A wide open airy draw, excellent flavor and superior vapor production. Yet even at that wattage its a cooler vape like I prefer. Night and day experience.

I visit a high-end neighborhood vape shop frequently and have had the opportunity to try friends' high-wattage regulated DNA-type mods with a rebuildable dripper on top. They also give a very nice, cool, flavorful vape with superior vapor production.

So vaping has been an interesting journey for me. I still use and enjoy my cartotanks. I still use and enjoy my KFL. I still use and enjoy my RDA's. I love them all, and they all provide a different vaping experience. I do not consider myself a "cloud chaser" per se, but I do enjoy more vapor. It's all about learning how to properly set up each setup to perform at its best. You can learn to set up a high wattage or sub-ohm setup and still have a cool, flavorful, vapor-producing experience. You can probably enjoy a ego setup too, but having experienced the above I would always know there is something better out there.

Factory-made coils and wicks can only be used within a certain voltage/wattage range. However, when you make your own coils with heavier wire along with a larger volume of wick material, you can increase the voltage/wattage for much better flavor and vapor production. Using sub-ohm coils with a high amp battery device can provide the necessary power to fire these home-made coils and wicks.

So to wrap this up, never say never until you've had the opportunity to try something out for yourself. If what you currently use works for you, then be happy with it. But know that vaping is a changing technology and improvements are happening at an incredible rate.
What battery do you use in your mechanical? I've pretty much talked myself into getting a Panzer BlackHawk next week & I'd like your input on a reliable battery.

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I know it's subjective and I'm painting with a wide brush here, but which rebuildable/tank seems to do it for you?

Kayfuns and Taifun GT's do it for me. Taifuns seem to be a bit more convenient to re wick, the cotton or Rayon lasts longer (havent decided if Rayon is safe yet) If you pull the airtube out of the Taifun, it will have an big air draw closer to that of the kayfun 3.1 ES (which has a better air draw than the Kayfun plus, lite or Russian)

Those are my go to Rebuildable tanks at the moment.....but as Baditude says, this stuff can change overnight. Its all moving so fast.
 
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