Why are people still dripping?

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the_vape_nerd

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Alright, after starting the thread I went ahead and got a 510 LR atomizer, put it on my 3.7 device and re-tried this. I have to say that I still think I'm getting 1. a more consistent vape from the ce2, 2. that the draw is easier on the ce2 than the atomizer, 3. that the first 2-3 drags right after dripping are better off the atomizer but then it all goes downhill rather sharply and 4. dripping is just a pain in the ..... I'm watching tv and every 5 minutes i'm up re-dripping.

As for the above comment about not wasting juice well, if that were true then drip guards and drip shields wouldn't be in existance. Clearly even veteran drippers are still wasting juice if someone has developed and sold those products.

I have not yet tried the 306 atomizers yet but I do plan on doing that next time I make a hardware order.

There are a lot of comments I see in here about cartomizers muting flavor and I do agree with that but only in terms of polyfill cartomizers verus dripping. If you use a ce2, ce3 or wick based cartomizer there's no flavor muting. In fact, your juice is coming in contact with even less material on a ce2 as the coil is smaller than an atomizer.
 

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As for the above comment about not wasting juice well, if that were true then drip guards and drip shields wouldn't be in existance. Clearly even veteran drippers are still wasting juice if someone has developed and sold those products.
I would estimate that I have wasted about 6 drops of juice in the last 2 years.
Having said that, I'm sure there are plenty of people who do waste a lot more juice than that.
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I think most people use drip shields so they can add more juice than the atomizer can hold.
Basically it is a way to drip more juice less often.
 

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I never liked dripping or atomizers in general. They would either flood or taste burnt.


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Dripping has a learning curve. It sounds like you didn't stick with it long enough to get past that and either had too much juice in the atty or not enough.
 

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Dripping has a learning curve. It sounds like you didn't stick with it long enough to get past that and either had too much juice in the atty or not enough.

Well I don't plan to abandon it yet. I'm going to give it a few weeks. I have two atomizes so we'll see if my experience improves.
 

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As for the above comment about not wasting juice well, if that were true then drip guards and drip shields wouldn't be in existance. Clearly even veteran drippers are still wasting juice if someone has developed and sold those products.

I would estimate that I have wasted about 6 drops of juice in the last 2 years.
Having said that, I'm sure there are plenty of people who do waste a lot more juice than that.
;)

I think most people use drip shields so they can add more juice than the atomizer can hold.
Basically it is a way to drip more juice less often.

Exactly. As a veteran dripper, I'm perfectly capable of dripping without flooding and leaking, but I find the best flavor comes with vaping an atty that is right on the edge of flooded. I'm walking a tight rope and do still flood from time to time so I use a 306DCA. No mess. No waste.
 

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Well I don't plan to abandon it yet. I'm going to give it a few weeks. I have two atomizes so we'll see if my experience improves.

I hope it does since you spent some money on attys. But, if your E2's are working for you and you like them, that's the important thing. It's always nice to have a back up device and even a second method of vaping for those days when a change of pace helps to beat a craving, though. I hope you are able to master dripping at least for back-up purposes.
 

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Some people may disagree, but I think getting to know how to use attys is best done with no alternatives. If you have several filled cartos and you are struggling with the attys then of course you are going to grab a carto and wonder what the point is. When I made the plunge to attys I had let my supply of cartos deplete til the point that if I wanted a vape, well...it had to be an atty! Yeah, it was definitely frustrating for a while, until this one, magical night. I don't know what happened or even what I did; but it was like, "look ma, no hands!"
 

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Well I don't plan to abandon it yet. I'm going to give it a few weeks. I have two atomizes so we'll see if my experience improves.

Even if you find that it doesn't improve, it's great that you're giving it an honest chance. It may just not be you're thing and there's nothing wrong with that. We all have our preferences.
 

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Some people may disagree, but I think getting to know how to use attys is best done with no alternatives. If you have several filled cartos and you are struggling with the attys then of course you are going to grab a carto and wonder what the point is. When I made the plunge to attys I had let my supply of cartos deplete til the point that if I wanted a vape, well...it had to be an atty! Yeah, it was definitely frustrating for a while, until this one, magical night. I don't know what happened or even what I did; but it was like, "look ma, no hands!"

I guess I just dont undestand what the big fuss is. I don't think I'm doing it wrong. I flooded it once and that was on the first night, but after a little practice it didn't happen again. I don't think it requires all this attention. You put some juice in, you click the button, you vape. I'm getting 2-3 good hits, followed by oh 6-8 moderate hits and then I have to drip again.

I got on youtube figured out how to blow them out etc. Wiped everything down.

Theres no art to this lol. I'm not building a watch. Drop some juice... vape, repeat. The first two hits, yes theres more vapor than the ce2 but not by a whole lot. The rest of the hits are about the same as the ce2.
 

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I guess I just dont undestand what the big fuss is. I don't think I'm doing it wrong. I flooded it once and that was on the first night, but after a little practice it didn't happen again. I don't think it requires all this attention. You put some juice in, you click the button, you vape. I'm getting 2-3 good hits, followed by oh 6-8 moderate hits and then I have to drip again.

I got on youtube figured out how to blow them out etc. Wiped everything down.

Theres no art to this lol. I'm not building a watch. Drop some juice... vape, repeat. The first two hits, yes theres more vapor than the ce2 but not by a whole lot. The rest of the hits are about the same as the ce2.

Well, if that is how you feel, then so be it. However, I think there is no art, science, or anything in between the two that can be attributed to cartos or ce2s! So, we both have our opinions, and they are both valid. Hey, do what'cha like...but remember, you asked the question about "Why are people still dripping?" so, I was responding to your question, not necessarily trying to convince of the majesty of using attys. If after all these posts you still don't "understand" what the fuss is about, then it is not for you...and that is fine!

To each his/her own.

p.s. I think there is an art to peeling an orange, but some people would rather drink orange juice..
 
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Vaping is subjective - some people love cartos, some people love CE2's, some people love dripping.

Personally, I can't stand any CE2 or CE3 or CE6 or whatever product I've tried. Flavor isn't there for me (I can taste the wicking material), and the cheap plastic that serves as the juice container influences the flavor. Also - CE2's struggle a lot of times with thicker VG juices. Most atomizers don't care what you drip in it - whether it's PG or VG (although VG still causes them to "gunk" up faster). Some of the CE products rip my throat to shreds, and not in a good way. Not sure why.

I also really don't care for cartos, but I do use carto tanks as a necessity while driving and going to work. I only grudgingly use them. There are some cases where I prefer certain juices in cartos (fruity juices taste better to me in boge's for some reason, than in most atomizers). After awhile they also make my mouth and tongue feel weird and almost coated in plastic. There's just something unpleasant about them. On top of this, some juices don't work well in cartos easier. They also behave differently with different levels of PG/VG. I can punch a whole in a carto and it works and feeds well with a 70pg/30vg blend, but if I put a 50/50 blend in it and punch the same hole, it doesn't feed properly. If I put 100% pg in it, it floods and I waste 3-5 ml of juice and make a mess. QC on cartomizers is also very low across the board, so sometimes the filler material can have a different density and what worked on the previous carto, doesn't work on the next carto and you end up with a terrible vape or a huge mess.

There are things I hate about dripping as well, but if I'm going for a truly satisfying vape, with the whole package - vapor, throat hit, and flavor, dripping is the only way to go for me. But again - I've had plenty of unsatisfying dripping experiences too! If you don't maintain your atomizers, or you don't get quality ones, you can have really bad experiences.

I would also say that if you're still using an Ego, that depending on the size of the battery, you may not be getting enough current out of a 1.5 ohm atomizer to make it truly satisfying. If you're a CE2 user, those generally perform better at lower voltages (which is why the "standard" for CE2's is around 2.5 to 2.8 ohms at 3.7 volts vs 1.5 to 2.0 ohms at 3.7 volts for most atomizers).

Again - taste is subjective, and some people LOVE the flavor they get out of CE2's and some people LOVE the flavor they get out of cartomizers.

Unfortunately, if you use atomizer's, there aren't as many "convenient" options out there. I would much prefer to use atomizers, but with some sort of feeding solution that works for me. Bottom feeding was unsatisfying for me, it wasn't the solution I was looking for. Autofeeding devices, like the GG AVS and UFS are expensive and hard to come by. There isn't an easy, cheap, accessible solution yet for atomizer users - you can buy a carto tank for under 10$ and carto users are happy. I'm hoping this will change soon as there are some promising atty tank solutions on the horizon.

Genesis atomizers are currently one of my favorite solutions, but these are tough to get currently, and they are expensive and intimidating to a lot of novice AND experienced users.
 
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Genesis atomizers are currently one of my favorite solutions, but these are tough to get currently, and they are expensive and intimidating to a lot of novice AND experienced users.

That, in its entirety was an amazing post. I am all about the evolution and not necessarily the planting of my flag, per se...but, I will say once I have moved on, then I have moved on. I am researching the heck out of Genesis attys right now and for about the past week. It is my final, or at least next frontier. Intimidating is only intimidating when you are ignorant (I am speaking about my own ignorance)!

p.s. I am at a point where I get it, even before I've actually gotten it! So, Genesis has been a "Revelation!" haha
 
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i have quite a few small bottles with 1-2 ml in them. I'm never gonna put that into a tank again, so when I'm at home and i feel like a different flavor i drip.
I wasn't really a fan until i got a 510 extension and a drip shield. no more leaking. period. and to change a flavor i just blow out the atty, take a puff without inhaling and on to the next juice.
 

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Exact-ta-bibly! :laugh: I got a 1ml bottle of Bobas Bounty that I have been trying on and off for a couple of weeks. I have really got a chance to know that flavor now and I am loving it, but I owe it all to attys. If I had put that in a carto or anything else, well...that just wouldn't have made any sense. C'mon, a 1ml bottle that lasts?!
 

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Exact-ta-bibly! :laugh: I got a 1ml bottle of Bobas Bounty that I have been trying on and off for a couple of weeks. I have really got a chance to know that flavor now and I am loving it, but I owe it all to attys. If I had put that in a carto or anything else, well...that just wouldn't have made any sense. C'mon, a 1ml bottle that lasts?!

Thou shalt not run out of Boba's
 
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