why are you subohming on a regulated device?

[Asbestos4004]

I switched to 1+ ohm builds in my rdas about a month ago. I haven't looked back. The increased surface area and versatility are great. I have a 2 ohm single coil in a veritas on a vaporshark rDNA at the moment. At 25w, it blows away any dual coil, sub ohm build I've had in it. I still use Mechs and low ohm builds from time to time...but not as often.

 

[Ryedan]

I switched to 1+ ohm builds in my rdas about a month ago. I haven't looked back. The increased surface area and versatility are great. I have a 2 ohm single coil in a veritas on a vaporshark rDNA at the moment. At 25w, it blows away any dual coil, sub ohm build I've had in it. I still use Mechs and low ohm builds from time to time...but not as often.

Curious as to what wire gauge(s) you use with these builds Asbestos.

 

[dr g]

28 works well for a long single

 

[Ryedan]

28 works well for a long single

That's a pretty heavy 2 ohm coil. Is 25 watts enough to make that vape well, or how much power would you need?

 

[Stosh]

That's a pretty heavy 2 ohm coil. Is 25 watts enough to make that vape well, or how much power would you need?

A 2Ω coil is very easy with 30ga wire, and 6-7 wraps. It takes very little power to produce nice vapor and good flavor without burning.

 

[dr g]

That's a pretty heavy 2 ohm coil. Is 25 watts enough to make that vape well, or how much power would you need?

The key is to make the coil diameter small and pack the coils (ala microcoil). 25 is fine. That's basically equivalent to a .5 ohm dual coil.

 

[Ryedan]

The key is to make the coil diameter small and pack the coils (ala microcoil). 25 is fine. That's basically equivalent to a .5 ohm dual coil.

I don't have a high power regulated mod so I've never worked these numbers before, or actually tried it. Thanks dr g, I get it now

 

[Ms82082]

can we get at least one reason why?

Drop your regulated in a pool with a mech see which one survives to Vape another day. I do agree with you on every thing else about regulated mods. I am going to get 100w pv for flexibility so I have a one trick pony

 

[FatherTime]

Curious as to what wire gauge(s) you use with these builds Asbestos.

if you want more surface area (which you do) then you should try lower resistance wire. for a lower resistance? no! you can build larger coil! right now the 2 best setups ive had on my ipv 2 in my plume veil v1.5 clone is a single coil with 24 gauge gplat at 1.4 ohms vaping at 50 watts and a dual coil with 26 gauge kanthal at 1.4 ohms. i still have yet to try a 22 g kanthal single coil. not sure if it will even fit at 1.4 ohms

 

[DaPopeLP]

Im still waiting on a 300 watt regulated device. Id love a device that lets me not have to use 10 batteries a day.

 

[dr g]

I don't have a high power regulated mod so I've never worked these numbers before, or actually tried it. Thanks dr g, I get it now

Yup, the good old two 1 ohm coils in series=2 ohms vs in parallel = .5 ohms.

 

[rondasherrill]

Drop your regulated in a pool with a mech see which one survives to Vape another day. I do agree with you on every thing else about regulated mods. I am going to get 100w pv for flexibility so I have a one trick pony

Since the topic is about subohming on regulated mods, I won't mention that last summer my Provari found it's way to the bottom of a stream where I was swimming, and after a 30 second alcohol rinse, I'm still using the same one today.

In any case... I can see why people subohm on their regulated devices... There is a measurable difference in heat up time between subohm and standard coils. Maybe not if you push over 60+ watts, I dont know as I have never even thought of vaping that high. It's not my range. At the normal, single coil 12-15 watt range(boring I know), you can watch with your eyes the difference in heat up time.

Me, I press the button on my Provari before I bring it to my mouth, and take long deep drags, so heatup time isnt an issue, but I know a lot of people don't vape that way.

 

[dr g]

Since the topic is about subohming on regulated mods, I won't mention that last summer my Provari found it's way to the bottom of a stream where I was swimming, and after a 30 second alcohol rinse, I'm still using the same one today.

People tend to underestimate the durability of solid state electronics. Regulated mods are fairly simple electronic devices and with the proper after-accident treatment I'd bet many if not most can survive.

Ironically cigarettes do exceedingly poorly when submerged in water.

In any case... I can see why people subohm on their regulated devices... There is a measurable difference in heat up time between subohm and standard coils. Maybe not if you push over 60+ watts, I dont know as I have never even thought of vaping that high. It's not my range. At the normal, single coil 12-15 watt range(boring I know), you can watch with your eyes the difference in heat up time.

Me, I press the button on my Provari before I bring it to my mouth, and take long deep drags, so heatup time isnt an issue, but I know a lot of people don't vape that way.

That's entirely dependent on the build though. A thin gauge subohm coil heats very quickly.

 

[peraspera]

...In any case... I can see why people subohm on their regulated devices... There is a measurable difference in heat up time between subohm and standard coils. Maybe not if you push over 60+ watts, I dont know as I have never even thought of vaping that high. It's not my range. At the normal, single coil 12-15 watt range(boring I know), you can watch with your eyes the difference in heat up time.
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Try a single 3Ω coil or a dual 1.5Ω coil using 30 or 32 gauge wire. I think you will find that the coil(s) heat up so quickly that you may have to use something in the range of a 2.5–3 mm. diameter coil in order to use enough wicking to keep up at higher power ranges of 30–50 watts.

Higher oHm coils use a greater length of wire than lower oHm coils so you will have more than enough surface area coil real estate to get large volumes of vapor even though you are using thinner wire.

If you find the springiness of the thinner wire difficult to work with torch it for just a few seconds before wrapping your coil. That removes most of the springiness.

These online coil calculators can be quite helpful when experimenting with building coils, Steam Engine and Coil Toy.

 

[edyle]

I switched to 1+ ohm builds in my rdas about a month ago. I haven't looked back. The increased surface area and versatility are great. I have a 2 ohm single coil in a veritas on a vaporshark rDNA at the moment. At 25w, it blows away any dual coil, sub ohm build I've had in it. I still use Mechs and low ohm builds from time to time...but not as often.

What about wire gauge?
Aren't you using thinner wire now on the 1+ ohm builds than what you used before on sub ohm builds?

 

[FatherTime]

Since the topic is about subohming on regulated mods, I won't mention that last summer my Provari found it's way to the bottom of a stream where I was swimming, and after a 30 second alcohol rinse, I'm still using the same one today.

In any case... I can see why people subohm on their regulated devices... There is a measurable difference in heat up time between subohm and standard coils. Maybe not if you push over 60+ watts, I dont know as I have never even thought of vaping that high. It's not my range. At the normal, single coil 12-15 watt range(boring I know), you can watch with your eyes the difference in heat up time.

Me, I press the button on my Provari before I bring it to my mouth, and take long deep drags, so heatup time isnt an issue, but I know a lot of people don't vape that way.

if you are carrying your ELECTRONIC cigarette over water you probably arent old enough to own one

 

[rondasherrill]

if you are carrying your ELECTRONIC cigarette over water you probably arent old enough to own one

I may not be old as Father Time, but I've broken 30. I was on a tube, spit happens. Lucky for me I don't buy APV's of the week.

 

[beckdg]

Lol watts are watts. 42 watts drained from a 4.2V battery is always going to be 10 amps. When the battery voltage drops the amps delivered are going to increase according to battery voltage. Other than inefficiencies in your electronics this is going to always be the case. It's just a matter of component and build quality as to what efficiency is at any setting and battery charge state.

 

[Ms82082]

Im still waiting on a 300 watt regulated device. Id love a device that lets me not have to use 10 batteries a day.

I found your solution no battery's needed just long extension cord lol

Vaping at 400 Watts: http://youtu.be/cill_IbtXiw