why can’t a non-smoker vape?

[underwater goddess]

The general attitude on this forum seems to be “if you don’t smoke, don’t vape”. The more I think about this, the less sense it makes.

“It’s not 100% safe”- many people regularly consume things that are far more dangerous than e-cigs. McDonald’s hamburgers, for instance. (For those of you who don’t know, they are loaded with toxic chemicals that poison the body and brain.)

“We don’t yet know vaping’s full effects on the body”- we don’t yet know the full effects of food colorings either, but I don’t see anyone here telling people to stay away from candy, salmon, pickles, or spaghetti sauce.

People deserve the right to choose what goes into their bodies! (This argument does not justify analogs, because the second-hand smoke is forced upon other people without their consent. But with vaping this is not an issue.)

I choose not to vape because freediving is my life. But if any of my fellow non-smokers decided to vape, I would not judge them.

 

[thelook]

I dont think any one is judging them, just as smokers or ex smokers it is a little hard to understand why someone who does not have an addiction would want to start one.

Nicotine addiction is not like being addicted to coffee or Mc Donalds cheeseburgers, just ask anyone who has tried over and over to give up nicotine.

 

[glennnnnnn]

Because Nicotine is addictive

Addiction is not a good thing

Is this a serious question???

Glenn

 

[Peeps]

I choose to vape to keep from going back to smoking. I vape 0 mg juices and enjoy it. I wish I had this 8 years ago when I quit-it would have been easier.

 

[underwater goddess]

They don't have to use nicotine, there's 0-nic juice.

 

[Badfish20]

kinda weird being a member of a vaping forum and you dont vape. Kinda like joining a Harley forum and dont own one. Avatar even...nice.

 

[Korr]

We are not judging anybody. Where on earth did you get that silly idea?
Vaping is as close to the real thing as we can get. That is one of the main reasons why smokers are able to make the switch so easily. Look up withdrawal symptoms for smokers. It makes us go crazy. Do you really want people who are perfectly fine to go through any of that crap? Vaping can be just as addictive as smoking. It's not just the nicotine smokers need. It's an adult pacifier. Going through the motions of smoking. It's a mental and physical addiction. You choose not to vape, but do you smoke?

 

[chev327fox]

I don't see anything wrong with someone vaping no nicotine juice who isn't a smoker, but the problem is if they like the throat hit some people actually start getting nic-juice for more throat hit. Just a thought, if they vape no-nic juice I think it would lead them to nic-juice eventually.

It's kind-of like pot being a gateway drug type deal.

But again it's anyones right to do what they want...

 

[KeepNitReel]

If a person who has never smoked before was thinking of picking up the habit of cigarettes, I would think it would be wiser to vape with 0mg therefore no addiction.

 

[underwater goddess]

kinda weird being a member of a vaping forum and you dont vape. Kinda like joining a Harley forum and dont own one. Avatar even...nice.

I don't think it's weird at all. I have always had a huge phobia of second-hand cigarette smoke, and I hate the smokers who selfishly expose other people to it. So I think that e-cigs are awesome!

I've been a harm-reduction activist for a long time (d***s and eating disorders). So I am proud to add tobacco harm-reduction to my list of causes to fight for.

 

[bornagainst]

It makes total sense, it's you who are confused.

 

[spaky]

I just fail to understand why anyone that doesn't smoke would want to vape. I vape because it is the only way I've found that I can quit smoking. I would highly recommend that if someone doesn't smoke to not take up vaping.

 

[underwater goddess]

I don't see anything wrong with someone vaping no nicotine juice who isn't a smoker, but the problem is if they like the throat hit some people actually start getting nic-juice for more throat hit. Just a thought, if they vape no-nic juice I think it would lead them to nic-juice eventually.

What's a throat hit?

It's kind-of like pot being a gateway drug type deal.

That is total bull..... The cigarette companies are responsible for creating that myth.

Statistically speaking, the gateway drugs are cigarettes and alcohol!

 

[chev327fox]

What's a throat hit?



That is total bull..... The cigarette companies are responsible for creating that myth.

Statistically speaking, the gateway drugs are cigarettes and alcohol!

I agree. I was just using that as an example!!

But it's true that people ARE curious and would want to try nic-liquid eventually. And a throat hit is the sensation you get from vaping and nicotine adds to this sensation.

Also I never disagreed with you, I just gave my opinion and said people can ultimately do what they want to.

 

[Devilooman]

Thank you for being here underwater goddess. We can use all the support we can get! We preach and preach about the government not making decisions for us with what we do with our bodies. It is hypocritical to say they shouldn't vape... their bodies, their decision. Nicotine is being studied for its helpfulness with diseases such as alzheimers and parkinsons. If they prove it helps I would certainly help my mom who has parkinsons to get some in the healthiest way she could. I am finding that nicotine, not contained in combusted tobacco, is not nearly as addictive as cigarettes. JMO of course as I can't prove it.

 

[chev327fox]

Thank you for being here underwater goddess. We can use all the support we can get! We preach and preach about the government not making decisions for us with what we do with our bodies. It is hypocritical to say they shouldn't vape... their bodies, their decision. Nicotine is being studied for its helpfulness with diseases such as alzheimers and parkinsons. If they prove it helps I would certainly help my mom who has parkinsons to get some in the healthiest way she could. I am finding that nicotine, not contained in combusted tobacco, is not nearly as addictive as cigarettes. JMO of course as I can't prove it.

OMG... when people are saying that non-smokers shouldn't vape they are just trying to help them not form an addiction!!! We all believe people can do what they want to do, that doen't mean we would advise it. Geeze leave it to some people to take "trying to help" the wrong way.

It's there decision. Period. All anyone can do is offer an opinion. And mine will be not to form a habit that cost $ if you don't have to, but if you really want to then no one is stoping you.

 

[underwater goddess]

I just fail to understand why anyone that doesn't smoke would want to vape.

Many people smoke not because of the nicotine addiction, but because of the joy, glamour, and sex appeal of smoking. Same concept for vaping.

I know fellow models who do smoking (and vaping) photo/video shoots. If it wasn't for wanting to be the best underwater model I can be I'd pick up a PV and join them.

 

[chev327fox]

Many people smoke not because of the nicotine addiction, but because of the joy, glamour, and sex appeal of smoking. Same concept for vaping.

I know fellow models who do smoking (and vaping) photo/video shoots. If it wasn't for wanting to be the best underwater model I can be I'd pick up a PV and join them.

There is absolutely no "joy, glamour, or sex appeal" about smoking... trust me. No one WANTS to kiss an ashtray, and there is nothing sexy about lung cancer (oxygen tank/tubes...

 

[spaky]

Many people smoke not because of the nicotine addiction, but because of the joy, glamour, and sex appeal of smoking. Same concept for vaping.

No that's why they start. Usually they are young and dumb and think that they won't get addicted. I know that describes me. I see no joy, glamor, or sex appeal in either vaping or smoking. The joy I get out of vaping is that I no longer smoke.

 

[underwater goddess]

Thank you for being here underwater goddess. We can use all the support we can get! We preach and preach about the government not making decisions for us with what we do with our bodies. It is hypocritical to say they shouldn't vape... their bodies, their decision. Nicotine is being studied for its helpfulness with diseases such as alzheimers and parkinsons. If they prove it helps I would certainly help my mom who has parkinsons to get some in the healthiest way she could. I am finding that nicotine, not contained in combusted tobacco, is not nearly as addictive as cigarettes. JMO of course as I can't prove it.

I will be here, and will fight to the death for people's right to vape.

I am considering asking my p-doc about nicotine treatment, as I have disorders it could benefit (ADHD, schizophrenia, and brain damage). Nicotine without cigarettes is indeed less addictive, the cigarette companies add additives that, when combined with nicotine, make it more addictive.