why can’t a non-smoker vape?

[BCB]

"The joy, glamour, and sex appeal of smoking"????????? Give me a break! People don't recommend vaping for non-smokers just like people don't recommend shooting up ...... for people who have never done so before. It just seems kinda dumb, that's all.

 

[KeepNitReel]

Has anyone ever heard of a first time smoker? We all started smoking for the first time right? I wish I had a choice to pick up a cigarette or electronic cigarette when I started 20 years ago. So I guess what you guys are saying is a first timer should start off on real cigarettes first then start vaping?

 

[underwater goddess]

There is absolutely no "joy, glamour, or sex appeal" about smoking... trust me. No one WANTS to kiss an ashtray, and there is nothing sexy about lung cancer (oxygen tank/tubes...

Trust me you're preaching to the choir. As I already stated, I have a huge analog phobia, and hate people who smoke.

I guess what I was trying to say is, some people find the act of smoking to be appealing. Vaping has that same appeal, but without the disgusting and deadly side-effects. (I personally find smoking to be akin to eating poop, and vaping to be hot, but each to their own)

 

[spaky]

Has anyone ever heard of a first time smoker? We all started smoking for the first time right? I wish I had a choice to pick up a cigarette or electronic cigarette when I started 20 years ago. So I guess what you guys are saying is a first timer should start off on real cigarettes first then start vaping?

Way to totally miss the point. People shouldn't be doing either one. I never recommended someone that didn't smoke to have a cig, and always told them that they shouldn't try them. I do the same for vaping. If you don't smoke you really shouldn't start smoking or vaping.

 

[underwater goddess]

Has anyone ever heard of a first time smoker? We all started smoking for the first time right? I wish I had a choice to pick up a cigarette or electronic cigarette when I started 20 years ago. So I guess what you guys are saying is a first timer should start off on real cigarettes first then start vaping?

Yes! My point exactly!

 

[chev327fox]

Trust me you're preaching to the choir. As I already stated, I have a huge analog phobia, and hate people who smoke.

I guess what I was trying to say is, some people find the act of smoking to be appealing. Vaping has that same appeal, but without the disgusting and deadly side-effects. (I personally find smoking to be akin to eating poop, and vaping to be hot, but each to their own)

I know that's why all smokers had to literally force themselves to start smoking, that's why I don't understand why people like the tobacco flavor juices (to each his own i guess).

But you need to understand that the thing you are preaching about right now is why a lot of people are on the fence about E-Cigs. Parents don't want their kids to like vaping just because there are fruit flavors and I agree with their concerns but that's why there are laws, and unfortunately some states are making the wrong ones by banning them completely instead of just for minors.

Yes! My point exactly!

Goddess read the end of his post again... he said people should use real cigarettes before they decide to vape... OMG read dangit, he's not really agreeing with you like you think he is... you just misread it.

 

[jiff]

I personally don't see a problem with non-smokers vaping... I mean, if they want to, that's their right. I would just advise anyone considering it to strictly use 0-nic juice. No reason to start an addiction, but if you like the feel of vapor then go right ahead.

As I said, for a non-smoker, 0-nic juice I would think would be a necessity.

 

[martha1014]

I don't understand why anybody would become a member of this forum if they aren't a smoker or had been a smoker. Electronic cigarettes are designed to be an alternative to cigarette smoking. I can't even imagine someone wanting to vape if they had never smoked. Not only is it expensive but also frustrating at time. Nicotine has been proven to have health effects. Even if you wanted to vape non-nicotine how could anybody who had never smoked want to vape.

I'm interested in knowing how someone found out about this forum if they aren't a smoker or know somewhose a smoker.

 

[underwater goddess]

Way to totally miss the point. People shouldn't be doing either one. I never recommended someone that didn't smoke to have a cig, and always told them that they shouldn't try them. I do the same for vaping. If you don't smoke you really shouldn't start smoking or vaping.

So are you going to preach to non-smokers that they should avoid everything that they "really shouldn't do"?

Read up on the scientific facts. I can think of many everyday things that are far worse than vaping. I personally refuse to eat certain types of junk food, put air fresheners in my apartment, or breathe in a room containing photocopier-machine exhaust. But I wouldn't go around telling others how to live their lives.

 

[Blaze]

It's not that non-smokers CAN'T vape....but why on God's green earth would a non-smoker want to?!?!?! They're not trying to find a way to replace nicotine intake, there's absolutely NOTHING sexy, glamorous, or appealing about smoking (my opinion was the same when I started as well, just a little more adamant now).

The only logical outcome for a non-smoker taking up vaping is inviting an addiction that is completely unnecessary. Whether it be the nic, or simply the physical act of "smoking", it WILL cause a change in your/their daily routine, which leads to dependency, which leads to addiction (Human psychology 101).

 

[chev327fox]

So are you going to preach to non-smokers that they should avoid everything that they "really shouldn't do"?

Read up on the scientific facts. I can think of many everyday things that are far worse than vaping. I personally refuse to eat certain types of junk food, put air fresheners in my apartment, or breathe in a room containing photocopier-machine exhaust. But I wouldn't go around telling others how to live their lives.

Yeah but is it a habit that will cost them the same amount of money? Even if someone vape a no nicotine juice it is still an expensive habit if you didn't have any before it.

It's not that non-smokers CAN'T vape....but why on God's green earth would a non-smoker want to?!?!?! They're not trying to find a way to replace nicotine intake, there's absolutely NOTHING sexy, glamorous, or appealing about smoking (my opinion was the same when I started as well, just a little more adamant now).

The only logical outcome for a non-smoker taking up vaping is inviting an addiction that is completely unnecessary. Whether it be the nic, or simply the physical act of "smoking", it WILL cause a change in your/their daily routine, which leads to dependency, which leads to addiction (Human psychology 101).

Agreed

 

[underwater goddess]

But you need to understand that the thing you are preaching about right now is why a lot of people are on the fence about E-Cigs. Parents don't want their kids to like vaping just because there are fruit flavors and I agree with their concerns but that's why there are laws, and unfortunately some states are making the wrong ones by banning them completely instead of just for minors.

I was talking about adults. I don't think that kids should vape, and would not have a problem with sales to minors being banned.

 

[chev327fox]

I was talking about adults. I don't think that kids should vape, and would not have a problem with sales to minors being banned.

Wow you are good at only reading between the lines aren't you. Are you one of those girls that only hears what she wants to? You sound like my ex-girlfriend when she wanted to cause a fight. Everything I say you take what you want out of it and comment on it, but it had nothing to do with what i was saying as a whole.

I'm going to strop feeding the TROLL now.

 

[spaky]

So are you going to preach to non-smokers that they should avoid everything that they "really shouldn't do"?

Read up on the scientific facts. I can think of many everyday things that are far worse than vaping. I personally refuse to eat certain types of junk food, put air fresheners in my apartment, or breathe in a room containing photocopier-machine exhaust. But I wouldn't go around telling others how to live their lives.

I'm not telling them how to live their lives, I'm just telling them they're dumb if they do it. I was dumb once too. Just because I was dumb doesn't mean they should be too.

 

[underwater goddess]

I wasn't trying to be a troll if you guys are incapable of having this perfectly reasonable discussion without getting upset and offended, I will end it.

 

[jiff]

It isn't really trolling, more of a valid question.

I personally can't think WHY someone would want to start - but that still isn't the point. If someone for whatever reason DOES want to, they shouldn't be shunned for it.

We all had our own reasons for picking up smoking, but with e-cigs around, there is no reason why people shouldn't go to that over cigarettes. There aren't 0-nic cig's, but there is 0-nic juice. If someone really wants to try it and is dead set on it, I would rather see them pick up a 510 with 0-nic juice than pick up a pack of marlboro's.

As I said, I can't understand myself why anyone would want to, but if for some strange reason they do, at least it is better than smoking. I do agree people shouldn't, but we aren't the ones to decide for them. Alls we can do is let them know what they are getting themselves into, and if they still want to after the initial skepticism we all show them, it is our responsibility to switch gears and help them make the best choice they can.

 

[akcrabslayer]

I think the whole point here is not telling anybody else how to live there life unless they are harming others especially me.

 

[chev327fox]

I wasn't trying to be a troll if you guys are incapable of having this perfectly reasonable discussion without getting upset and offended, I will end it.

I'm not trying to be mean and I'm not offended. I just don't like it when people take a few words out of a post and make it sound completely different then what it was intended to sound like as a whole.

 

[spaky]

No I think the point is that people shouldn't pick up addictions.

 

[chev327fox]

It isn't really trolling, more of a valid question.

I personally can't think WHY someone would want to start - but that still isn't the point. If someone for whatever reason DOES want to, they shouldn't be shunned for it.

We all had our own reasons for picking up smoking, but with e-cigs around, there is no reason why people shouldn't go to that over cigarettes. There aren't 0-nic cig's, but there is 0-nic juice. If someone really wants to try it and is dead set on it, I would rather see them pick up a 510 with 0-nic juice than pick up a pack of marlboro's.

As I said, I can't understand myself why anyone would want to, but if for some strange reason they do, at least it is better than smoking. I do agree people shouldn't, but we aren't the ones to decide for them. Alls we can do is let them know what they are getting themselves into, and if they still want to after the initial skepticism we all show them, it is our responsibility to switch gears and help them make the best choice they can.

I agree and like I said we can only offer our opinions to them.

No I think the point is that people shouldn't pick up addictions.

I agree with this as well...