Why do I bother talking to idiots?

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xyanide

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But how to you teach those who refuse to learn?
But in polite society that isn't an option. And sometimes words are just not going to do it. What then?
That simply means they're not even talking to you because they're interested, just drop the thousand-cancer-chemicals-bomb and see how that turns out. In my experience a few people try to rebuke with something like "Yeah? But you don't know what they put in that either", which I do and I continue with e-liquid ingredients as I catch their attention. It can go anywhere from there.

Did you not read the OP? He was trying to explain it but the other guy was the one acting like he was on a know it all high horse.
Sorry, my reply was completely unrelated to the OP.
 

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That simply means they're not even talking to you because they're interested, just drop the thousand-cancer-chemicals-bomb and see how that turns out. In my experience a few people try to rebuke with something like "Yeah? But you don't know what they put in that either", which I do and I continue with e-liquid ingredients as I catch their attention. It can go anywhere from there.


Sorry, my reply was completely unrelated to the OP.

So far (I caught your edit in my quote, I didn't see it in the original :) ) all I have to do is say "I have been x weeks without smoking because of using electronic cigarettes." That is usually the key to opening a way to enlightenment. But I haven't met Mr Know-It-All yet.
 

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I've said it before...fix the educational system and these problems will go away eventually.

Unfortunately, our elected leaders don't see the urgency. Here's part of a party's education platform. I won't name the party or state because I think that's irrelevant at this point but you can Google it if you're interested.

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

After much lambasting they punted with a "that made it in by mistake and we can't remove it without another vote" but I believe it stands as endemic to much of the thinking out there.
 

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I've said it before...fix the educational system and these problems will go away eventually.

Unfortunately, our elected leaders don't see the urgency. Here's part of a party's education platform. I won't name the party or state because I think that's irrelevant at this point but you can Google it if you're interested.

That is correct. Students today are taught to take tests, to memorize and regurgitate material. They are not taught to think, to question, or to understand anything. As a parent I try to provide that learning at home the best that I can, but many parents can't, don't or just don't have time to do so.
 

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I don't get where people are stupid because they are not intimate with all the ins and outs of vaping.

I doubt I would have found my way to vaping on that kinda path.

I guess I'm surprised at the amount of "holier than thou" atittudes in this topic. So what, somebody can't do math, they may be good at something you're not good at. As a matter of fact, they may be downright........SUCCESSFUL.

I have terrible math skills, but possess many talents and i"m certainly not stupid. Since I know that about myself, it's easy for me to treat other people with the respect they deserve.

When I was younger, I now realize that all the things I *found wrong* with other people was just a reflection of my own inner shortcomings. A mirror, if you will.

Now, when I feel that way about somebody else, I loook within and try to find out the real reason I am feeling annoyed at "other people.

The sentiments expressed this thread seems very ... unlike ECF community thinking......ya'll have crapped on everything from the gene pool, to politicians, to people without math skills, to who is breeding, all the way to lost faith in humanity.

Really, I think ya'll need to look at yourselves and find the nature of your terrible frustration with others.

Me thinks you take yourself too seriously. By the way, you might want to try proofreading/spellchecking your posts as math doesn't appear to be your only problem area.
 

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Ok. Thread derailed. These forums are SUPPOSED to be friendly and I am starting to see way too much flaming here. Agree to disagree, or perhaps the OP can request the thread be closed.

^^^^^.....This is MY job.







There is some inconsiderate stuff in here...
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