Why do I want/need temperature control?

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edyle

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I've been vaping with TC at 10W. The ohms are necessarily lower because the metal in the coil is different, with a lower resistivity, but the mod compensates for that by decreasing the voltage. The resistance can't be tasted anyway, it's just a number.

Yes the ohms are necessarily lower because the nickel metal used is a lower resistivity.
Yes the mod compensates by decreasing the voltage.

The practical problem is the practical matter of consistency week to week, and month to month because to run a 0.1 ohm coil, you need to make sure you don't have an extra 0.1+ ohm variation elsewhere in your electrical path.

When you run a 2 ohm coil, a variation of 0.1 ohms on the various contact points (theading, centerpins, spring) is less than 10%; but 0.1 variation on a 0.1 ohm coil is 100%.
 

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TC mods, at least those I have come across, sample the resistance every time you put an atomizer on the mod, and calibrate the voltage accordingly. Much like VW mods, only it needs to be more accurate in order to perform TC.

It is a well known fact, at least among those who dabble in TC, that TC requires a solid and stable electrical path between the mod and the coil. With regular VW or VV, you can get away with much more variation and/or resistance in the path.

When TC was first introduced, I personally had my doubts about whether it was possible to achieve a sufficiently good connection using the "good" old 510 standard. I'd still like to see a new connector standard, but I have to admit that the 510 seems to work well enough, as long as both the mod and the atomizer are well made and conductive enough.
 
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It's interesting how "TC people" are forgetting that W is not only some setting on TC mode, but one of the main parameters determining how much juice we can evaporate per second. When I say I do not want to go above 12W it means I do not want to increase my juice consumption, do not want go above real 12 W.
Yes, I understand that it is possible to use TC mode and vape at low power, but my concern is it will be as with subtank - yes, you can use subtank at 12 W, by taifun is better.
I'll wait for Ti or SS or whatever for now.

We are talking temp control, your talking juice control. JC is in your hands right now, you don't have to wait on that.

Right now I'm rotating a Mutation V3 at 50w, a Subtank at 40w and a Goblin at 50w. And IIRC I use about the same or less juice at a lower nic level then you.
 

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How do you figure? I have a .06ohm Ni200 coil setup right now, my battery should have exploded by now if that were true.

10 watts is 10 watts.

Your voltage output is what?

10 watts = voltsxvolts/0.06
voltsxvolts = 0.6
volts = 0.8 volts

Your voltage is 0.8 volts at 10 watts. Does that help?
 

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Honestly, its not the burnt hits for most of us. If that was the primary use, I never would've tried it, or stuck with it. Its the consistancy of the vape. And being able to chain vape even low airflow M2L attys without them heating up. I need to switch my Prometey to tc. All metal tank and summer and geez can I heat that tank up quickly!
I chain vape my T3 till it runs nearly dry, refill it and keep on going No problems when you only run about 6 watts.
 
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I personally think Most of these threads about TC are Not Very Meaningful.

Because Most of what I hear in them is Based on the Premise that the Person Asking the Question (or the person doing the TC Defending or the TC Non-Defending) wants the Exact Same thing and the Exact Same Hit as the person who is Posting.

And one thing I learned a LONG Time ago is that when it comes to Vaping, One Size does Not Fit All.

I know Nothing about what the OP Wants an e-Cigarette to do? Or how Long He/She has been Vaping? Or at that level of Expertise they May or May Not Be at? I'm not sure how I could say if TC is Right for them or Not?

There is Also the issue of TC not being a Standardized Technology.

The TC on my iStick 40W works Very Differently than the TC on my Kangxin VF Mini. And the Hit, and the Way I get the Hit, is Very Different.

If everyone was Building the Same Way, to Achieve the Same type of Hit from the same type of e-Liquid, I think these "Debates" would be Much More Relevant. But that Isn't the Real World.
 

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And what you're missing is the chip restricts power to coils and adjusts it accrodingly. Just because I set mine to, say, 15 watts, doesn't mean it will use 15 watts the entire time. That's just its starting power. The chip then pulls power down based on the resistance of the coil, as the relative curve between resistance and temperature is very linear (accurate within 10F)...I get Ohms Law, I understand where you're coming from, but you're missing how all of this works.
 

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    How?! You're applying Kanthal based physics with mech mods, to Ni200 coils with chips made to buck the power down...

    Exactly! Bucked to below 1.2v :eek:

    There really is a reason that ohms law is a LAW

    So your TC can do 200 watts, when you set the temp to say 420f you're probably vaping at about 10-12 watts.

    but you're missing how all of this works

    No ... we're not missing anything ... we know how it works. BUT, even Rube Goldberg had an easier way of doing things.
     
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