WHY Do People Want Better Atomizers ????

[Sun Vaporer]

From a consumer standpoint that kind of mentality sucks.

It's all about money and greed and not quality.

Unfortunately though, we all know it's true.

From high-end appliances, TVs, and cars - they're all made so that they will fall apart so that you'll be a repeat customer or keep their service department rolling in the dough.

Mamu--I have do agree that "built in obsolecence" is an outrage. Just look at the light bulb--you can go to Thomas Edison's Museum in Fort Myers, Fl and still see the orginal light bulbs he built and never burn out--they keep them lite 24/7------built in product demise and poor reliablity is why Japan took over the auto industy with Toyota and Honda---so businesses should think twice before employing it IMO.

Sun

 

[CandyGirl]

Mamu--I have do agree that "built in obsolecence" is an outrage. Just look at the light bulb--you can go to Thomas Edison's Museum in Fort Myers, Fl and still see the orginal light bulbs he built and never burn out--they keep them lite 24/7------built in product demise and poor reliablity is why Japan took over the auto industy with Toyota and Honda---so businesses should think twice before employing it IMO.

Sun

Very true!

sell me something i have to keep sinking money into and you've just lost a customer.
sell me something that lasts and you've just earned a friend.

what's going to pay off in the long run?
well, that's the question, isn't it?

 

[fjames]

I have no clue how much resistance would change with a sturdier build, but using 6V and 2.5 ohms as a baseline, you could go to ~3.2 ohms at 7.4V and maintain performance it looks like. People would just have to buy non-resistored switch.

I buy mine for 5 or 6 bucks and they last a month or more and work fine. I'd pay twice that for some assurance of consistency and quality, with an increase in life to say 4 months. I'd expect it to wick a cartridge at least as good as anything now available, and hopefully better. To me, this would mean short and fat bridge rather than tall and skinny, but that's just my experience.

It shouldn't be any fussier than current stuff and certainly shouldn't threaten to burn your cart. You can drip anything, but we cart users have special needs

 

[happily]

I'm all about $5 disposable atty's........sign me up. Most of these people act like they didn't have to throw their cigarettes out either. Just buy one pack and run it for a year.

seriously pm me with bulk details

 

[olderthandirt]

I'm all about $5 disposable atty's........sign me up. Most of these people act like they didn't have to throw their cigarettes out either. Just buy one pack and run it for a year.

seriously pm me with bulk details

Had to jump in here happily. I just looked at PS website. On an item page such as the 901 or 510 atomizer, just under the 'Add to Wishlist' button is another button labeled 'View Quantity Discounts'.

Looks as though I've found where I'm buying atomizers!

 

[happily]

Had to jump in here happily. I just looked at PS website. On an item page such as the 901 or 510 atomizer, just under the 'Add to Wishlist' button is another button labeled 'View Quantity Discounts'.

Looks as though I've found where I'm buying atomizers!

thanks........

 

[Torbleau]

I have an 801. Since they changed to the longer coil, I am constantly having to top off or drip. Had I started with one of these a year ago, I might not have stuck with ecigs. I still have my original atty, and it will pull juice for long time before I need to top off. I would like to go back to the short coils, or, better yet, as mentioned earlier, get some way to put liquid right in to the cart and "drip" with the push of a button so I wouldn't have to refill all the time. For me, fixing this hassle would do wonders! With the PT's and Prodigy out there, the issue with having battery life is taken care of. Now, we need to have the issue of "cart life" dealt with. That's my 2 cents...

 

[mamu]

Most of these people act like they didn't have to throw their cigarettes out either. Just buy one pack and run it for a year.

Since we're talking about hardware and electronics here, that statement just doesn't make sense.

I think the durable, long lasting fuss-free atomizers are coming and will be revolutionary in the way we view vaping now with what the future holds.

 

[Duckies]

Count me in that 99.9% of people who don't want to mess with repairing atomizers. I want it to work until it breaks and then toss it.

+1

Too lazy for that much detail.

 

[Duckies]

Honestly, considering the current legislative envoirnment here in the States and the enormous cost to engineer and design a new type of atomizer, it is likely that what we are using now is the best option. Second, atomizers are not robust on purpose. It provides a long-term income stream to the manufacturer. Just a simple economic model. If you had robust atomizers, you wold have fewer repeat customers. Third, repairing an atomizer would cost more than buying a new atomizer. Lastly, ECF forum members probably represent a very small sliver of the vaping world. While we are pushing technology to the its limits, most people do not want to be bothered or buy a device and it sits in a desk drawer until they croak.

You are a fan of GM's planned obsolescence model? Risky business that. I see the logic, but struggle with the concept. In this case, I think it makes sense.

 

[Duckies]

Steve,

Along with others here, I agree that it would be more important to me to view atts as a consumable like liquid than to reinvent the wheel and loose time. Have some engineers mock up what we are importing and duplicate them with QC in place and sell them cheap. $5 a week isn't a burden compared to an analogue habit.

JMO.

 

[Serenna]

I have been lucky and have all my attys for about 3 months. I would like to know if in case of a ban
a) I could buy new ones or
b) know they would last a long time.

The same with juice, I really don't want to diy but I need to know I have a supply. That is also why I am buying mods now, so batteries aren't a worry.

I think we need a long term solution somehow...I'm not cheap and I don't mind buying attys or juice but I need to know I can continue to get my supplies.

 

[mastervapor]

I want a 801 atty coil surgically embedded in my throat. Then i could shove 2 3volt rcr123A 750mAh batts up my a** and drink E-liquid like shots of tequila. Great throat hit and outstanding vapor! But, maybe I've had one to many shots already. ....... ..never mind!

 

[Christopher]

I like them just the way they are. Cheap. I don't want to clean them, I don't want to even think about them. If I pay 10 bucks a week on an atomizer then I'm still spending less than I was when I was smoking(was spending $10 a day on smokes).

I would like more to be done on the carts than anything.

 

[wv2win]

This is what is needed with an atomizer that can be cleaned easily and keep functioning.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/24832-mahmba-concept-pv.html

 

[tescela]

guys ... you also have to remember, 95% of the vaping population and 99.9% of the cigarette smoking population DON'T want to have to fiddle with something, let alone get their hands dirty and try and repair.

Replaceable coil has been throw around for ages and is an awesome idea, but is it feasible? Atomizer would have to be a protruding type like a 401/103 to be able to just get to it without special tools.

The fact is -- People like simple. Yes, cool design, etc... is eye catching, but at the end of the day, if the piece of work is a headache, the user will end up going to his bread and butter -- the simplest tool in the shed

Agreed, and this is why I would be so excited to see an "auto juice loading" feature. I love the superior vape facilitated by dripping, but I am so, so tired of the process.

 

[grimmer255]

personally I would like to see an attie that performs great and last a long time. As long as it fits existing threads and it can work for 3.7v-6v with ease. (or have two atties one for 5-6v and one for 3.7-4.5v) Quality Control again is main issue. I dont care if the attie is the size of the prodigy itself as long as it works well. Hell I dont care if it cost 30 bucks as long as it last a year.
To see all ecig products made in the USA would make me happy. Oh and a manual feeder instead of carts would also be a great idea. jeesh, its such a pain in my ... to switch out carts or drip while driving or out on the town. Simply a touch of a button and you get solid vapor no matter where you are.

 

[SharonLM]

Had to jump in here happily. I just looked at PS website. On an item page such as the 901 or 510 atomizer, just under the 'Add to Wishlist' button is another button labeled 'View Quantity Discounts'.

Looks as though I've found where I'm buying atomizers!

Well I'll be darned. I too know where I'll be ordering from now on. Way to go Steve and Casey!

 

[Zofryer]

I think the main thing I want is better quality control and consistency from the same atomizer from the same vendor. It's annoying getting a pack of five and two rock, two suck, and one picks up mexican radio.

 

[Antebellum]

I wonder if it's time to get away from the entire nichrome heater concept. Beside the poor QC, DOA, and other problems, the nichrome spool, ceramic cup, metal mesh, and the welds are the components doomed to die.

Other than making them more robust, what else can be done?

The original concept was to use a piezoelectric transducer as an atomizer. Was this abandoned because it did not heat the mixture and produce as realistic an experience?

I have piezoelectric injectors in my Dodge diesel in which the "moving" part is considered weightless and instantaneous. It's not uncommon to find these lasting for 250,000 miles in some applications.

Can this be adopted to a smaller scale? Flow is through a diesel injector, not bouncing off it or burning off, so a scheme like this may make for a more logical design that the roundabout flow scheme we have now with carts and channels.

The thing, too, about those injectors is that they are God-awful expensive to replace when they DO go.