Why do some people continue to buy premade coils and juice?

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Marina2

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When I ordered my very first vaping gear I also ordered DIY supplies to make my own unflavored juice. By the time the first of my cartridges for the Nautilus ran out I had an RTA and began making my own coils. Just got a dripper and I love it. I can't imagine having to buy premade liquid or coils. My budget never allowed it in the first place. I won't even look at a tank unless it has an rba available.

I guess there are many that have neither the time nor the inclination to mix liquid or wrap coils. The convenience of premade outweighs the cost. For those of us that have no choice, DIY is a godsend.

If they can afford it, why wouldn't they?
Unless your a very unlucky person factory made atomizer heads last week or longer and imo it really isn't worth the effort to make your own unless your more into the hobby aspect of vaping.

I've used premade and diy coils and liquid. Even if I could afford to continue to buy premade, I wouldn't. The vape is many times more satisfying with my own coils and liquid than premade.
 

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I guess everyone new starts out doing it. Once you start making your own this hobby costs next to nothing.

I couldn't imagine paying $15 for 30ml of juice again that often tastes like garbage.
I don't know why some people pay $70 for an oil change they can do for themselves at half the cost. Why buy a loaf of bread when you can bake your own? Why go to McDonalds when you can make your own burger? It's not always a matter of economy, sometimes it's convenience and (lack of) interest in the work itself.

I rebuild everything, and DIY about 50% of my e-liquid.
 

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When I started I was certain I would never rebuild. 3 months later I was rebuilding and never looked back. I procrastinated for 10 months before starting DIY and now I have no interest in pre mix. I rebuild once a week, a 15 minute job. I mix once a month, another 15 minute job. The premix I was buying gunked up coils in a couple of days. My DIY doesn't gunk up a coil for at least a week, probably longer. I think the premix companies use too much flavor or too much sweetner. I use rda clones exclusively becaause they are cheap, simple and durable.

I'm concerned about government interference so I'm stockpiling and that's taught me how inexpensive a quality vape can be. Strarting with nothing I could assemble all the vape specific stuff I need for 10 years for $500 and it would all fit in the brief case I used to carry for an office job with room to spare. Unflavored DIY can be done for 1 penny per ml. Then it's what you want to spend for flavoring. I use 28 guage titanium wire in temp control mode. Lately I'm testing some from fasttech, 50m for $8 and it seems to be fine. 2 rolls of that would last 10 years at one coil a week. A quality vape doesn't need to cost more than $100 a year or use more than 90 minutes a month of fiddling around time. Smoking cost me $3,000 a year.
 

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When I started I was certain I would never rebuild. 3 months later I was rebuilding and never looked back.

I have a similar experience, although I was motivated by my "go-to" being out of stock on Kanger coils. I ran across a YouTube video about rebuilding Kanger coils, I bought the wick and wire, and started rebuilding. I bought a TON of different factory-coiled tanks and learned to rebuild those coils. I bought an RDA and built that. From there I went on to buy rebuildables exclusively.
 

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I use heads I like for my everyday vape that cost less than a buck and last about three weeks. My coil building is reserved for drippers and occasional flavor chases. When I run low on my 10 year supply of heads, they will get rebuilt. Until then, not worth the trouble for me.

Liquid for me is a place where one can get creative and save a lot of money, so I make most all of ours.

Questioning why other don't vape the way you like to is the mistake many make. It is unrealistic to expect that former smokers, who simply went to the store and bought packs or cartons, would all want to wind wires and mix liquids. Some, maybe most, have never been into crafts, tools, formulas or fixing things. They just want to vape.

If it keeps one from smoking, who cares? Different strokes for different folks.
 

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Some people just like things to be simple. I imagine for a lot of people they would rather spend a few extra pounds here and there to avoid having to fiddle around with coils and mixing their own liquids. Some folk just don't like the trouble, especially if they make a mistake then they only have themselves to blame.

Also with mixing liquids, sometimes you just can't replicate the consistency at home that you can get from companies that are mass producing the stuff.

I think at the end of the day, saving money isn't the be-all-end-all for some people.
 

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    Because minimal cost is not everyone's goal.
    Because juice isn't that expensive until you use a lot of it.
    Because it always takes a lot longer and costs more than advocates on the Internet claim.
    I build some coils but frankly I spend enough time straining my eyes with magnifiers at work. Oh for the days of 20/20 again.
    I make juice but recently picked up a nice bottle of premade and yes these guys are pros. Plus it's a little different flavor area than I'm currently experimenting with but still mixes well with it.

    And people definitely should stop recommending making their own juice to people still just trying to find their good vape. You can't do everything at once.
     

    sofarsogood

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    I pay $21 for 90ml that tastes great. Not worth the trouble of making it yet.
    Probably the thread was started to raise awareness about the potential for government interference. It might be a good precaution to put some nic in the freezer just in case. A 1 liter bottle of 100mg solution costs $50 and has 100,000mg of nic.
     
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    Vaping is not a hobby for me. It is a means to avoid smoking. I am doing some DIY but also have a lot of pre-made. There are 5+ liters of nic in the freezer just in case. I like buying nic in glass bottles ready to go in the freezer. I want the same convenience with blister pack coils. I am avoiding coil wrapping like the plague. Wrapping the coils may not be a problem but attaching them to the tiny screws may not happen. Not sure my vision is good enough.
     

    Marina2

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    Probably the thread was started to raise awareness about the potential for government interference. It might be a good precaution to put some nic in the freezer just in case. A 1 liter bottle of 100mg solution costs $50 and has 100,000mg of nic.
    Besides the cost, this was my biggest motivator to learn to DIY. I've always thought that one day it won't be so easy to just order premade coils/cartridges, tanks and liquid. I think open systems and e liquids made to any strength/flavor you desire will be the first to disappear from the market. For those that enjoy the convenience of premade now it might not be a bad idea to learn DIY and stock up on supplies just in case.
     

    sofarsogood

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    I mix so buying liquid is out these days and rebuild 95% of the time. I have a decent stock pile of coils and buy them when they go on sale or I find a good price. They are nice when you need to load something up quick or you aren't somewhere you can build.
    I keep a freshly built rda plus a 30ml bottle of DIY at work in case I forget liquid or the rda I'm carrying has a problem. For day long field trips I might carry a spare freshly built rda. I lost interest in tanks as soon as I started using rda's.
     

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    Probably the thread was started to raise awareness about the potential for government interference. It might be a good precaution to put some nic in the freezer just in case. A 1 liter bottle of 100mg solution costs $50 and has 100,000mg of nic.
    Since the title of the thread is a question, I assumed the op wanted an answer.

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    I guess everyone new starts out doing it. Once you start making your own this hobby costs next to nothing.

    I couldn't imagine paying $15 for 30ml of juice again that often tastes like garbage.

    I don't DIY my juice and I'm hardly a "new" vaper. My time is worth more than any savings I'd realize by mixing my own. I do have a few liters of nic base in the freezer, just in case, but don't plan on using them while I can buy pre-made juice that I enjoy.

    I didn't take up vaping to save money and can afford pre-made juice for as long as it's available.
     

    93gc40

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    I guess everyone new starts out doing it. Once you start making your own this hobby costs next to nothing.

    I couldn't imagine paying $15 for 30ml of juice again that often tastes like garbage.

    Because it NOT a hobby for them.. It's a Cigarette Smoking alternative.. There are many people that would still be smoking if NOT for premade coils and juice. These people don't vape for entertainment value.
     

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    I'm very new here. Actually 6 days analog free today. I have been reading like crazy here, because I know nothing about vaping.

    During my research here, I watched an amazing video, that broke it down with math, exactly how much money people are spending, and how much money it actually cost to DIY your own ejuices.

    It was amazing. If you DIY, you can make enough ejuice to last a month, for less than the cost of 1 pack of analogs!

    I just can't miss out on a savings like that!
    Especially when you consider the cost of buying ejuice for a year. Make it yourself for about $70.00 a year.

    So, I have started collecting my supplies, but have a couple if questions:

    Where do I buy the nicotine? And it seems like we can freeze it? How long will stay good in the freezer? Someone buys it in glass bottles, is that the best way to buy it?

    How long is ejuice good, after it is mixed?

    How long are the premade coils susposed to last? A week?

    I saw on here to clean tanks in ethanol or iso alcohol, is that what you all do. It said once a week, and let it dry overnight.
    Does this prolong the life of the coils/wicks?

    Can anyone direct me to a good video that shows how to rebuild them. I am not very technical, but I am a nurse, so maybe I will be able eventually to do my own.

    Thanks!
     

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    Time has more value to me than money. I raise our two daughters. I have about two hours each day that I don't have to worry about keeping an eye on them, but that's only if I'm lucky enough that they are both napping. Rebuilding and mixing while they're awake is simply not an option. I have other things I need to do while they nap, such as cleaning up, laundry, prepping dinner, etc. When my wife gets home, spending time together as a family is more important than coils and juice. There's dinner, bath times, bedtimes, and then my wife and I can have time to ourselves.

    These things are all more important to me than a few coils and some juice. I end up getting just enough time each week to fit in some building and mixing, but it's very easy to understand why some people buy coils and juice instead of doing it themselves.
     
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