Why do vapers expect to be treated differently than smokers?

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I see it that the more people see us vaping, the more people will see and learn about it. I like that some people here have helped 2 people quit smoking, I have helped dozens of people if not more quit smoking by using it in public places. They all bought from one of the suppliers that I started with. I will continue to vape in public and spread the great way to quit smoking and live a better life.
 

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DC2, it's called rules in life bro. If they tell you it's not allowed. Then you don't do it.
If they tell you it's ok, then you do it.

Pretty simple man.

If you don't follow it, it's like life.. you can do whatever you want.. but sooner or later somebody will stop you from doing it.

You're all over the place.

You say follow the rules. Rules are rules. But, you say to follow the rules for smoking not the rules for vaping. Rules that don't apply. Rules that are not rules that have anything to do with vaping. Yet, you've already admitted that you don't follow them yourself, that you stealth vape on occasion.

Perhaps, you are simply justifying your own behavior to yourself. Perhaps, living in California, you do truly believe that being politically correct is more important than what is right or wrong.

And, according to you, if a person can't wait to vape in a politically correct location, they have more issues than nicotine addiction.

Well, if nicotine addiction were the reason that people vaped, there would be no need at all. There's the patch for that.

Excuse me for living and breathing and being who I am. Because I have anxiety issues, especially social anxiety. I'm very uncomfortable in social situations. The more social, the more I need to vape. I guess the shy, the anxious, the apparently inferior of us should just stay home and never participate in the outside world. Polical correctness is so much more important than real people's issues, after all.

I'm not sure that's what you're saying because you keep contradicting yourself. Perhaps, you could clarify your position. You're saying that vaping respectfully isn't enough? That only hiding is enough? That only pretending/lying is politically correct enough?

Please, clarify. What EXACTLY are you trying to say? Not what repercussions you are concerned about or why you believe it. But, what about being respectful is not enough. And, why those that are more anxious and addicted than you should behave like you as if their needs were the same as your needs.

Years ago, I could go to a coffee shop, go sit in the smoking area, read a book and just relax. Nowadays, I wouldn't vape in all the same situations I would have smoked years ago. But, that's not because I shouldn't. It's because modern attitudes have changed to the point that it would often create more anxiety than it would ease. So, there's no point.

Smoking was never about a nic fix to me. It was about being able to relax and being able to concentrate and think straight.
 

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so you need nicotine/ecigs/cigs to interact with ppl?

and you are asking me why I am all over the place?

ok that was pretty over the top insulting. As someone with social anxiety I can quite solidly say social anxiety is not the same thing as being totally unreliable/schitzo/ bonkers etc. Yet that is what you implied.
 

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Ok. So, it's just what it seemed. No clarification needed apparently. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. That you only seemed to be self-righteous and ignorant by choice.

I do understand now. Do as you say, not as you do.

And, exactly what does having social anxiety issues have to do with the fact that you continually contradict yourself?
 

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seriously.. just don't vape where u aren't supposed to smoke at.

What is so hard to understand about that.

What you have avoided addressing is the following. We are NOT smokers. Since we are NOT smokers why should the rules for smokers apply to us. We are not doing what the rules are regulating!

Right now there are precious few rules/laws that do apply to us. Why should we voluntarily put ourselves under the rules for smokers?

I personally CHOOSE to abide by some SELF-IMPOSED restrictions because I am a polite person. Nonetheless, I do not recognize the idea that laws meant to regulate smoking apply to vaping.
 

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so you need nicotine/ecigs/cigs to interact with ppl?

and you are asking me why I am all over the place?

Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit. I believe what she was saying is that vaping helps her in social situations and I can identify with that.

Also, you are all over the place and the following sentence made my eyes bleed.

"seriously.. just don't vape where u aren't supposed to smoke at."
 
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Ok. So, it's just what it seemed. No clarification needed apparently. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. That you only seemed to be self-righteous and ignorant by choice.

I do understand now. Do as you say, not as you do.

And, exactly what does having social anxiety issues have to do with the fact that you continually contradict yourself?

Who me? confused
 

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Ok. So, it's just what it seemed. No clarification needed apparently. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. That you only seemed to be self-righteous and ignorant by choice.

I do understand now. Do as you say, not as you do.

And, exactly what does having social anxiety issues have to do with the fact that you continually contradict yourself?

slightly ignorant and totally self-righteous.

sorry.
 

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What you have avoided addressing is the following. We are NOT smokers. Since we are NOT smokers why should the rules for smokers apply to us. We are not doing what the rules are regulating!

Right now there are precious few rules/laws that do apply to us. Why should we voluntarily put ourselves under the rules for smokers?

I personally CHOOSE to abide by some SELF-IMPOSED restrictions because I am a polite person. Nonetheless, I do not recognize the idea that laws meant to regulate smoking apply to vaping.

because thats what the government/local law has pegged on you.

why do you think you are a special?
 

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because thats what the government/local law has pegged on you.

why do you think you are a special?

And I have the right to fight those laws IF AND WHEN they are proposed. I do not have to abide by them BEFORE they even are laws. That is the right of all Americans. Nothing special about it.
 

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Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit. I believe what she was saying is that vaping helps her social situations and I can identify with that.

Also, you are all over the place and the following sentence made my eyes bleed.

"seriously.. just don't vape where u are NOT supposed to smoke at."

fixed :p:p:p:p:p:p:p
 
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