Why does my Kayfun lite hit so hard?

[Bennylava]

I recently got the kayfun lite clone by "together best cooperation". Whatever that is. Anyway, this thing hits hard. Damn hard. So hard in fact, that I'm going to sell it if I can't get it to stop doing it. I vape at 0mg nicotine, so I just can't take how hard this thing hits the back of the throat. And on top of that, it hits this hard when you hardly get any vapor! What is the deal? I'm using a 1.6 ohm coil, cotton wick, a Vamo V3 with Panasonic 3400 mah batteries, and a 70pg/30VG blend with 0mg nicotine. I'm vaping all this at 8 watts. And its unbearable. I had to switch back to my protank.

What can I do? Should I have built a 3 ohm coil? Could that be what's causing this? Again I'm going to have to sell this thing if I can't figure out how to make it hit normally.

 

[generic mutant]

Try moving the coil closer to the air inlet?

 

[The Vagabond]

just guessing here but seeing your sig, im guessing its a matter of using the correct setting ..... try turn it down in voltage

 

[drxandy]

I recently got the Kayfun lite clone by "together best cooperation". Whatever that is.

To be co, get it?
Turn the vamo down but I wouldn't think 1.6 would be crazy


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[drxandy]

Sorry double post

 

[generic mutant]

1.6ohms, 8 watts.

Honestly, it's more or less a one paragraph post!

 

[Bennylava]

The coil is 1.6 ohm. If I turn the Vamo down from 8 watts, it just takes longer to get a vape hit that does the same thing. Hits way too hard.

 

[Sthur]

The "safe vape chart" says 6-8 watts for 1.5 close enough to 1.6. Have you always used 70/30? Try 50/50 or 30/70 for less throat hit. Lower pg blends, pg is what makes throat hit.

Try 7.0 or 6.0 first, but think pg is culprit with the kf.

My tobeco kf does hits like a champ too, but great flavor too and like it a lot.

 

[drxandy]

Yeah sorry saw that
Air control open?

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[generic mutant]

Also, to eliminate the obvious, does it have airflow control? Fiddled with that..?

 

[crxess]

Check your coil. Sounds like it is not centered over the Air hole. should also be about 1mm off the deck.

I have 2 setups, one with a Vertical dragon coil, and neither hit as you describe. Both deliver good Vapor and nice flavor. one running 9w and the other at 8. Both are in the 1.5ohm range.

 

[ycromo]

there is one thing about kayfuns that people may forget. the juice is kept in the chamber by negative pressure. as you vape, the juice level goes down and air gets in the chamber. the more air there is the chamber, the more the air pocket can expand.
bottom line: when the chamber is full of juice, the juice flows very slowly into the wick area. when the juice level is lower it flows faster.
keep this in mind, you can put 5ml of juice in there but until the juice goes down to 3 ml the wick will get juice at a very slow rate.
my advice is to not go over 3-4ml, or if you go all the way to 5ml, you need to partially unscrew the top cap and let air in, so the juice can 'go down' and into the wick area. or vape at a moderate pace. i don;t know if you are using cotton or silica, but i think your hard hits are coming from a wick that is not getting enough juice. try putting only 2-3ml of juice and see if you notice a difference.

actually after re reading your post, and checking your coil setup, i'm pretty sure this is the problem:
your wick is not getting enough juice (notice you have little vapor). this will happen on kayfuns when they are at capacity juice wise. put less juice in it and make sure you put some juice in the wick before closing the kf, or let air in from the top when tank is full. the wick has to have enough juice or it will hit you hard.
either this or that clone has some other issue. or your wick is too short or too long.

on the other hand i may be completely off

but one thing I'm sure, a properly function KF, beats any protank type tank. more vapor, more flavor, less flooding, no gurgling, no burn taste from the gasket, no gunk buildup on the coil, etc, etc

 

[Bawn]

You also need to use a mech with these devices with the right coil (in MY experience not with a provari). a Apv just doesn't heat the coil fast enough on a higher ohm coil and it' was a terrible experience FOR ME. A whole new world when you slap it on a mech though.

 

[ycromo]

[moderated] You also Need to use a mech with these devices. Apv just doesn't heat the coil fast enough and it's a terrible experience. A whole new world when you slap it on a mech. But anyway, let me know if you want to get rid of it.

[moderated]
but really, KF work great with VW regulated devices. my KF is working great on my DNA20 20w setup. provari handles it fine too. and i get a warning when power drops. on the mech i'm always guessing. mechs are for looks

 

[retired1]

We have some folks that are dipping their toes into an area that shouldn't be gone to in this part of the forums. Let's watch the "trading/sending/selling" talk folks.

 

[ycromo]

We have some folks that are dipping their toes into an area that should be be gone to in this part of the forums. Let's watch the "trading/sending/selling" talk folks.

hi friendly moderator,
i don;t think anyone is talking of actually trading/sending/selling anything... i believe OP was just expressing frustration when he mentioned selling. and we were building on that to move a point forward

 

[Thrasher]

it sounds like you may have a wicking problem

to much TH while light on vapor is usually a dry wick while it isnt going to give subohm dripper clouds it should put out a decent cloud while being very smooth.
I would suggest trying a few other build attempts first. or maybe even just shorten the wicks you have now they should just touch the side shelves.


Together Best Corporation = Tobeco

 

[crxess]

Send it my way if you don't like it and don't want it. I will give it a great home. You also Need to use a mech with these devices. Apv just doesn't heat the coil fast enough and it's a terrible experience. A whole new world when you slap it on a mech. But anyway, let me know if you want to get rid of it.

That my friend completely depends on the coil build.
These tanks can have a simple 2/3 wrap coil or an 12 wrap micro or even nano coil. One of mine is running an 8 wrap chimney coil at 1.8ohms. Works harder on the APV than the mech with an MNKE.

 

[ycromo]

[moderated]
but really, KF work great with VW regulated devices. my KF is working great on my DNA20 20w setup. provari handles it fine too. and i get a warning when power drops. on the mech i'm always guessing. mechs are for looks

hey!!! why does my post says moderated?

 

[jameth]

[moderated] You also Need to use a mech with these devices. Apv just doesn't heat the coil fast enough and it's a terrible experience. A whole new world when you slap it on a mech. But anyway, let me know if you want to get rid of it.

So many things are wrong with this statement it makes my head hurt....
You have been a member here long enough, I would expect you to have a better understanding than this lol.


But anyways...

Move your coil closer to the airhole, like just barely not touching it, this will increase vapor production and decrease throat hit.